CV19 - Cure worse than the disease? (Vol 5)

CV19 - Cure worse than the disease? (Vol 5)

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JagLover

42,445 posts

236 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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the-photographer said:
New modeling shows U.K. on course for prolonged second peak

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-10-28...
Modelling eh

Any evidence from anything that shouldn't be in the fantasy section of your local bookshop?

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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rich888 said:
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As a side note, walked into the petrol station today without a mask on and noted the guy in front was also sans mask, so looks like more and more folks have had enough of this ste, I certainly have.
We all have. But most just get on with life, not a big deal.

The petrol station should have challenged you both. Then not served you until you had completed your sulk.

Hopefully the selfish tt didn’t pass on covid to you or the station staff. And you too.

markyb_lcy

9,904 posts

63 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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Jimboka said:
rich888 said:
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As a side note, walked into the petrol station today without a mask on and noted the guy in front was also sans mask, so looks like more and more folks have had enough of this ste, I certainly have.
We all have. But most just get on with life, not a big deal.

The petrol station should have challenged you both. Then not served you until you had completed your sulk.

Hopefully the selfish tt didn’t pass on covid to you or the station staff. And you too.
It is not the job of shopkeepers to enforce the law.

Harry H

3,398 posts

157 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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Why the hell are national newspapers being allowed to sate blatant lies without anyone calling them up on it.

60,000 people have not died because OF Corona Virus as stated in the first para of their leading story.

I could understand if it was a small sub-article but not the days headline.

It's going on across all of the main media, TV, radio, print. They're all at it all the time. Yet no sections seem to be questioning it.

LeighW

4,407 posts

189 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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Jimboka said:
The petrol station should have challenged you both. Then not served you until you had completed your sulk.

Hopefully the selfish tt didn’t pass on covid to you or the station staff. And you too.
I filled my car up in a Leicester filling station as I was passing through a few weeks ago, I counted ten of us in the shop as I queued to pay. There were two people (myself included) wearing a mask. The person serving never said a single word to any of them, he certainly wasn't bothered either (edit to add - nor was I.)


Edited by LeighW on Wednesday 28th October 16:13

worsy

5,811 posts

176 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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Harry H said:
Why the hell are national newspapers being allowed to sate blatant lies without anyone calling them up on it.

60,000 people have not died because OF Corona Virus as stated in the first para of their leading story.

I could understand if it was a small sub-article but not the days headline.

It's going on across all of the main media, TV, radio, print. They're all at it all the time. Yet no sections seem to be questioning it.
Specifically 61469 deaths according to ONS Stats.

LeighW

4,407 posts

189 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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Harry H said:
Why the hell are national newspapers being allowed to sate blatant lies without anyone calling them up on it.

60,000 people have not died because OF Corona Virus as stated in the first para of their leading story.

I could understand if it was a small sub-article but not the days headline.

It's going on across all of the main media, TV, radio, print. They're all at it all the time. Yet no sections seem to be questioning it.
Talk Radio is pretty much the only media source that is questioning it really AFAIK.

worsy

5,811 posts

176 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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LeighW said:
Harry H said:
Why the hell are national newspapers being allowed to sate blatant lies without anyone calling them up on it.

60,000 people have not died because OF Corona Virus as stated in the first para of their leading story.

I could understand if it was a small sub-article but not the days headline.

It's going on across all of the main media, TV, radio, print. They're all at it all the time. Yet no sections seem to be questioning it.
Talk Radio is pretty much the only media source that is questioning it really AFAIK.
Reason

However, separate figures published by the Office for National Statistics (ONS) show more than 61,000 deaths have so far been registered across the UK where Covid-19 was mentioned on the death certificate.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newslondon/uk-coron...

21st Century Man

40,942 posts

249 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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And how many died "Just days after having their boiler serviced" ?

kingston12

5,487 posts

158 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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Jimboka said:
The petrol station should have challenged you both. Then not served you until you had completed your sulk.
I'm not sure it is contingent on the staff at petrol stations and shops to be challenging people. If it is, it certainly shouldn't be.

The majority of people not wearing masks will either have an exemption or be deliberately not wearing one in an effort to make a point. Neither is a group of people that I would feel particularly comfortable challenging.

I appreciate that there will be a third group who will have genuinely forgotten to bring a mask, but I'd expect them to be a small minority at this stage.

grumbledoak

31,545 posts

234 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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the-photographer said:
New modeling shows U.K. on course for prolonged second peak

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-10-28...
And how predictive has the modelling been so far?

Bloomberg is also citing The Sun here citing Vallance but offering only circular links to itself.

Convincing.

Elysium

13,851 posts

188 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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worsy said:
I've just checked today's front pages. Have we had a big increase in deaths over the last few days?

No - and circuit breakers do not work.

NI and Scotland have achieved nothing.


monkfish1

11,112 posts

225 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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markyb_lcy said:
Jimboka said:
rich888 said:
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As a side note, walked into the petrol station today without a mask on and noted the guy in front was also sans mask, so looks like more and more folks have had enough of this ste, I certainly have.
We all have. But most just get on with life, not a big deal.

The petrol station should have challenged you both. Then not served you until you had completed your sulk.

Hopefully the selfish tt didn’t pass on covid to you or the station staff. And you too.
It is not the job of shopkeepers to enforce the law.
Correct. It also happens to be illegal to challenge someone under the disablity regs. It staggering just how far backwards we have gone and its now acceptable to challenge people. You wouldnt ( i hope) challenge someone with any other condition or disablity would you?

dangerousB

1,697 posts

191 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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grumbledoak said:
the-photographer said:
New modeling shows U.K. on course for prolonged second peak

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-10-28...
And how predictive has the modelling been so far?

Bloomberg is also citing The Sun here citing Vallance but offering only circular links to itself.

Convincing.
To quote them "the report "is a scenario, not a prediction" and the data are subject to "significant uncertainty"." Exactly the level of commitment I'd want in order to decide policy/strategy. rolleyes

If you want to have a laugh here's the BBC article.

The range on the figures is laughable.



Seanrof

280 posts

61 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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Jimboka said:
rich888 said:
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As a side note, walked into the petrol station today without a mask on and noted the guy in front was also sans mask, so looks like more and more folks have had enough of this ste, I certainly have.
We all have. But most just get on with life, not a big deal.

The petrol station should have challenged you both. Then not served you until you had completed your sulk.

Hopefully the selfish tt didn’t pass on covid to you or the station staff. And you too.
Well funny mate. Surely your post is satire ? If so, bravo. If not, you need help.

Walked into Hemstead Valley shopping centre in Gillingham today to buy my kid ( 9yr old ) a new pair of Clarks school shoes.
We werent wearing masks, but everyone else I saw, walking in and through the entrance to the first few shops, ( Clarks is 5 up on the left, its as far as we got ) were all wearing one.
As you walk through this first 50m or so, there is a small food court running straight up the middle. About 25 seats and a few tables in a line, Everyone there sitting eating and drinking, but no masks. A few masks slapped on the table tops. Everyone else walking by them wearing masks, literally right next to them, only separated by a waist high handrail style barrier. Absolutely bonkers. Even caught the glare of an old biddy , sat drinking her coffee as I walked next to her, an arms length away, both of us not wearing a mask, but as she is now within the bizarre Monty python-esque parameters of the law, is now entitled to be visibly disgusted by my behaviour.
I bought my lad a pair of shoes almost a size too big . That should keep me shops free for at least 12 months. What a result

Jasandjules

69,931 posts

230 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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gazapc said:
After leading with the story yesterday that anti-bodies rapidly decline, Sky news now have this story!

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-south-afric...
Yes, they do. That is after all how the body works. Incredible that these "experts" and "scientists" appear unaware of a fairly basic point.. Now, T-Cell immunity is another question, not addressed, I wonder why the College that has a vaccine in creation is trying to continue with this !?!?

worsy

5,811 posts

176 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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SAGE now saying all of England should be in Tier 3.

croyde

22,967 posts

231 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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Trailer for news just came up on Ch4.

A scientist says that the second wave is more deadly than the first.

Said straight laced and with full seriousness by the presenter. I've forgotten his name I'm so pissed off.

ETA

Krishnan

21st Century Man

40,942 posts

249 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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It really is The Emporer's New Clothes.

grumbledoak

31,545 posts

234 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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dangerousB said:
To quote them "the report "is a scenario, not a prediction" and the data are subject to "significant uncertainty"." Exactly the level of commitment I'd want in order to decide policy/strategy. rolleyes

If you want to have a laugh here's the BBC article.

The range on the figures is laughable.
I don't feel like laughing.

But, I don't believe the levels of incompetence and coincidence that some are happy to swallow. I do believe this is malice and lies.

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