Coronavirus - the killer flu that will wipe us out? (Vol. 8)

[Boringvolvodriver]

Terminator X said:

People under 65 why are you so scared?



TX.

Be interesting to see the responses. That graph says it all and probably should be evidence enough to bet rid of all restrictions now - especially since the vulnerable have had 2 doses

[turbobloke]

Boringvolvodriver said:

Terminator X said:

People under 65 why are you so scared?



TX.

Be interesting to see the responses. That graph says it all and probably should be evidence enough to bet rid of all restrictions now - especially since the vulnerable have had 2 doses

ISWYM

However to offer a tentative answer to the question - maybe some still live with elderly parents, house prices and all that

[Maximus_Meridius101]

Boringvolvodriver said:

Be interesting to see the responses. That graph says it all and probably should be evidence enough to bet rid of all restrictions now - especially since the vulnerable have had 2 doses

The proper test hasn’t happened yet. If things are still looking good when we’ve had a few months of much more normal social mixing, and people head back indoors as the days shorten, later this year, then we’ll know if the measures have worked. The proof of the pudding is in the eating, and the pudding isn’t even out of the metaphorical mixing bowl yet. I think there will be at least another year of excuses and back peddling by politicians, to waste time until this time next year. Then they’ll either have no excuse to keep restrictions, or a reason to do so.

Edited by Maximus_Meridius101 on Tuesday 11th May 00:59

[anonymoususer]

Maximus_Meridius101 said:

The proper test hasn’t happened yet. If things are still looking good when we’ve had a few months of much more normal social mixing, and people head back indoors as the days shorten, later this year, then we’ll know if the measures have worked. The proof of the pudding is in the eating, and the pudding isn’t even out of the metaphorical mixing bowl yet. I think there will be at least another year of excuses and back peddling by politicians, to waste time until this time next year. Then they’ll either have no excuse to keep restrictions, or a reason to do so.

Edited by Maximus_Meridius101 on Tuesday 11th May 00:59

I think this is about right
It strikes me that a disease that spreads via contact can only truly be judged to have been beaten once more normal contact has been re established
I don't know whats it's like on the tube or trains but I would think that normal (congested) use of these would be good indicators of the thing spreading

[sunnygym]

anonymoususer said:

Maximus_Meridius101 said:

The proper test hasn’t happened yet. If things are still looking good when we’ve had a few months of much more normal social mixing, and people head back indoors as the days shorten, later this year, then we’ll know if the measures have worked. The proof of the pudding is in the eating, and the pudding isn’t even out of the metaphorical mixing bowl yet. I think there will be at least another year of excuses and back peddling by politicians, to waste time until this time next year. Then they’ll either have no excuse to keep restrictions, or a reason to do so.

Edited by Maximus_Meridius101 on Tuesday 11th May 00:59

I think this is about right
It strikes me that a disease that spreads via contact can only truly be judged to have been beaten once more normal contact has been re established
I don't know whats it's like on the tube or trains but I would think that normal (congested) use of these would be good indicators of the thing spreading

Do you not think that the majority of the public are already mixing with their friends and families and have been doing so for a while now?

[markyb_lcy]

anonymoususer said:

Maximus_Meridius101 said:

The proper test hasn’t happened yet. If things are still looking good when we’ve had a few months of much more normal social mixing, and people head back indoors as the days shorten, later this year, then we’ll know if the measures have worked. The proof of the pudding is in the eating, and the pudding isn’t even out of the metaphorical mixing bowl yet. I think there will be at least another year of excuses and back peddling by politicians, to waste time until this time next year. Then they’ll either have no excuse to keep restrictions, or a reason to do so.

Edited by Maximus_Meridius101 on Tuesday 11th May 00:59

I think this is about right
It strikes me that a disease that spreads via contact can only truly be judged to have been beaten once more normal contact has been re established
I don't know whats it's like on the tube or trains but I would think that normal (congested) use of these would be good indicators of the thing spreading

Florida seem to be doing alright since removing any and all restrictions. They are down to low single digit “daily covid deaths” currently.

[JagLover]

sunnygym said:

Do you not think that the majority of the public are already mixing with their friends and families and have been doing so for a while now?

To say nothing of the millions who have had no choice but to interact with others in the workplace.

[Cbull]

Terminator X said:

People under 65 why are you so scared?



TX.

If it's deaths WITH Covid, then the actual numbers DUE to Covid will be considerably less.

[turbobloke]

JagLover said:

sunnygym said:

Do you not think that the majority of the public are already mixing with their friends and families and have been doing so for a while now?

To say nothing of the millions who have had no choice but to interact with others in the workplace.

Hence, together with public transport remaining open, lockdown in name only.

[Lily the Pink]

sunnygym said:

anonymoususer said:

I think this is about right
It strikes me that a disease that spreads via contact can only truly be judged to have been beaten once more normal contact has been re established
I don't know whats it's like on the tube or trains but I would think that normal (congested) use of these would be good indicators of the thing spreading

Do you not think that the majority of the public are already mixing with their friends and families and have been doing so for a while now?

There can be no doubt that many people are indeed mixing with friends and family, but there will also be many people who are still reluctant to open their front door in case they get struck down. What cannot be denied is that there is a lot less close contact than in "normal" times - how many air passengers are there these days, how many crowded pubs, football terraces, etc. ?

[EddieSteadyGo]

Lily the Pink said:

There can be no doubt that many people are indeed mixing with friends and family, but there will also be many people who are still reluctant to open their front door in case they get struck down. What cannot be denied is that there is a lot less close contact than in "normal" times - how many air passengers are there these days, how many crowded pubs, football terraces, etc. ?

Patrick Vallance confirmed this yesterday. An average person would have interacted with around 10-11 people per day pre-pandemic. Currently the figure is about 4. Interactions are significantly lower than normal.

[anonymous-user]

anonymous said:

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In two men aged 65 and 71 - load of scare-mongering ste

[anonymous-user]

anonymous said:

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I would offer to help you do the research, but you'd just spunk it up the wall.

[turbobloke]

anonymous said:

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Come again?

[bad company]

I was amazed to hear the government announce that we could hug again. There never was a law against hugging. We can and always could hug friends & relatives if we and they wanted to. Whether we should hug is another matter and a personal decision.

Amazed that such matters are assumed as laws when they never were.

[isaldiri]

It's somewhat is a surprise why the MHRA is quite so unwilling to properly split up the AZN ViTT incidence so one can get a more reasonable gauge on exactly what risk they are taking on. Weeks on, it's increasingly obviously an issue for at least some people but the MHRA only chooses to release number of cases by age group without the matching doses by said age group which is very clearly data that they do have.

Compare that to the US which for all the criticisms of the FDA has proven pretty open in releasing the relevant data -



There is little reason why AZN should be substantially different to JnJ although for whatever reason in the US it's much more an issue seemingly affecting women but at high rates up to age 50.

[Maximus_Meridius101]

SAGE have called an emergency meeting for later today, because of concerns about the rapid spread of the Indian variant of Covid, in the U.K. So what are the odds of another U turn, and the planned reopening on the 17th being halted then?

[anonymous-user]

Will the Indian variant attack my nan?

[Maximus_Meridius101]

RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:

Will the Indian variant attack my nan?

It might attack your Naan.

[anonymous-user]

Just so long as it doesn't bhajin the door uninvited.