Welsh lockdown
Discussion
bearman68 said:
Been reading this story with an increasing sense of frustration.
Why are NHS staff vaccinating - Pharmacies are begging to do this, and not being used.
Why do we have so much vaccine sat in stores, and not working away merrily in arms?
If the NHS are busy, we should be using anyone else who can stick a needle in an arm - there must be literally 1/4 of the population who are capable of doing this.
A few are, most are not. Why are NHS staff vaccinating - Pharmacies are begging to do this, and not being used.
Why do we have so much vaccine sat in stores, and not working away merrily in arms?
If the NHS are busy, we should be using anyone else who can stick a needle in an arm - there must be literally 1/4 of the population who are capable of doing this.
As the vaccines are supplied in multi-dose vials, and must not be wasted, you need to run a full-on clinic and make sure that lots of people go through it (the LHB will send them to you).
This is quite different to flu jabs, which come in singles and so you can administer them fairly ad-hoc and they fit in between all the other work; to provide the covid jabs, you will really need completely separate staff to run the session and enough space to keep the flow of people (when I say flow, it includes a socially distanced 15 minute wait after the injection, in case of anaphylaxis, which kind of spoils "flow") away from the normal work of the pharmacy.
So, for this vaccine, the set-up required is simply not possible in the majority of pharmacies.
I just had mine yesterday at Margam; the set-up there was several "pods" with around 15-20 people in each (I didn't count) and so it took a bit longer than the 15 minute wait after to go around each pod and jab everyone, which meant the after-waiting area was free again as people came out. It was running very nicely, but it took lots of staff and LOTS of space to make it work.
Drakeford now blaming the floods on climate change. Good way of deflecting blame for his mounting numbers of f
k ups I guess.
I have friends in North Wales who were already furious about feeling they’re left out of the vaccination programme as he prioritises the South, now they’re fked off that he is blaming flooding on climate change rather than the fact they’re building on flood plains and not carrying out environment management.
Growing calls to abolish the Senedd
k ups I guess. I have friends in North Wales who were already furious about feeling they’re left out of the vaccination programme as he prioritises the South, now they’re f
ked off that he is blaming flooding on climate change rather than the fact they’re building on flood plains and not carrying out environment management. Growing calls to abolish the Senedd
Sophisticated Sarah said:
Drakeford now blaming the floods on climate change. Good way of deflecting blame for his mounting numbers of fk ups I guess.
I have friends in North Wales who were already furious about feeling they’re left out of the vaccination programme as he prioritises the South, now they’re fked off that he is blaming flooding on climate change rather than the fact they’re building on flood plains and not carrying out environment management.
Growing calls to abolish the Senedd
Growing calls for independence too. Those blokes in The Social Dilemma were right. k ups I guess. I have friends in North Wales who were already furious about feeling they’re left out of the vaccination programme as he prioritises the South, now they’re f
ked off that he is blaming flooding on climate change rather than the fact they’re building on flood plains and not carrying out environment management. Growing calls to abolish the Senedd
Landcrab_Six said:
The Penallta vaccination centre, set up weeks ago, still doesn't appear to have seen a single attendee. Once again empty, during the working day.
Dripford and Born Guessing are an absolute disgrace.
Absolutely. We should only construct vaccination centres when doses are 100% certain to be available. Not before. Dripford and Born Guessing are an absolute disgrace.
It's not as if Wales' supply was affected by a batch of vaccinations that failed testing this week is it?
It's almost as if you and certain other posters have an agenda to push.
Yes the roll out of vaccines has been slower than some regions of England, if not all. But then death rates as a percentage of a population are better which is decent considering the ageing Welsh population and societal issues NHS Wales faces.
As Mr. Miyagi said, “Lesson for whole life. Whole life have a balance. Everything be better.”
phil_cardiff said:
'Brain drain' occurs now. Looking forward to your well reasoned response as to why Welsh Independence is a bad idea.
My current bingo card has:
- Too poor
- Too small
- Too stupid
Well, I'd love to see a fully costed argument against too poor and too small. And I'd question the intelligence of anyone who honestly believes Wales could stand alone as a fully independent nation. Wales runs at a massive fiscal deficit and is bailed out annually by the UK government.My current bingo card has:
- Too poor
- Too small
- Too stupid
(Let us also consider just how bad things could be if Dripford or Born Guessing were leaders of a truly independent Wales)
phil_cardiff said:
- Too poor
You are really going to have to work hard to convince me we stand a chance on our own. We receive billions more than our tax take and that's before everyone successful moves across the border.The first thing I'll do is move to the Cotswolds if this country votes independence and I'll shift my businesses to London. I employ almost 100 people in and around Cardiff. I know plenty of others that will do similar. What'll that do to the already screwed finances?
phil_cardiff said:
Landcrab_Six said:
The Penallta vaccination centre, set up weeks ago, still doesn't appear to have seen a single attendee. Once again empty, during the working day.
Dripford and Born Guessing are an absolute disgrace.
Absolutely. We should only construct vaccination centres when doses are 100% certain to be available. Not before. Dripford and Born Guessing are an absolute disgrace.
It's not as if Wales' supply was affected by a batch of vaccinations that failed testing this week is it?
It's almost as if you and certain other posters have an agenda to push.
Yes the roll out of vaccines has been slower than some regions of England, if not all. But then death rates as a percentage of a population are better which is decent considering the ageing Welsh population and societal issues NHS Wales faces.
As Mr. Miyagi said, “Lesson for whole life. Whole life have a balance. Everything be better.”
ked over by Welsh Labour since the WAG inception....??That responsibility lies firmly with Drakeford and Gething.
Caution as it is Guido .... https://order-order.com/2021/01/22/exclusive-top-w...
"EXCLUSIVE: TOP WELSH TORIES HELD SECOND NIGHT OF DRINKING IN DECEMBER"
"EXCLUSIVE: TOP WELSH TORIES HELD SECOND NIGHT OF DRINKING IN DECEMBER"
robuk said:
http://pembrokeshire-herald.com/63318/conservative...
Leader of Welsh Conservatives Paul Davies there allegedly....
Two days running according to Guido now.Leader of Welsh Conservatives Paul Davies there allegedly....
Landcrab_Six said:
The Penallta vaccination centre, set up weeks ago, still doesn't appear to have seen a single attendee. Once again empty, during the working day.
Dripford and Born Guessing are an absolute disgrace.
In fairness-if you are talking about Ty Penallta- it is in operation twice a week. I know quite a few who have been vaccinated there. Whats more worrying is thisDripford and Born Guessing are an absolute disgrace.
wobert said:
phil_cardiff said:
Landcrab_Six said:
The Penallta vaccination centre, set up weeks ago, still doesn't appear to have seen a single attendee. Once again empty, during the working day.
Dripford and Born Guessing are an absolute disgrace.
Absolutely. We should only construct vaccination centres when doses are 100% certain to be available. Not before. Dripford and Born Guessing are an absolute disgrace.
It's not as if Wales' supply was affected by a batch of vaccinations that failed testing this week is it?
It's almost as if you and certain other posters have an agenda to push.
Yes the roll out of vaccines has been slower than some regions of England, if not all. But then death rates as a percentage of a population are better which is decent considering the ageing Welsh population and societal issues NHS Wales faces.
As Mr. Miyagi said, “Lesson for whole life. Whole life have a balance. Everything be better.”
ked over by Welsh Labour since the WAG inception....??That responsibility lies firmly with Drakeford and Gething.
ks up one a race track never built, has any tvr been built in wales yet no that's right the building still in the same state it was when the last owner left. Cardiff airport nobody in wales actually uses most people I know will use Bristol over Cardiff, the failed m4 relief road and failed transport improvements in Cardiff. So all the brilliant new plans all based in south east wales haven't happened while the rest of wales has been abandoned.
But its alright because our brilliant council wants to introduce a coffee culture in my home town of blackwood with out door eating in the high street with funding from the welsh assembly because that is what is needed in wales right now ffs.
I now where my vote is going in the local election.
On other news cases well under 1000 first time since in November deaths high but no higher than same day last week and generally the figures are showing a trend down for deaths as well. First day wales has actually hit its daily vaccination target about 3 weeks too late.
MG CHRIS said:
Until we get parties in wales with decent politicians and sensible plans then independence will never happen, We are behind the other nations in just about every league table from health too educations economy to infustructure investment. Lets list the number of welsh fks up one a race track never built, has any tvr been built in wales yet no that's right the building still in the same state it was when the last owner left. Cardiff airport nobody in wales actually uses most people I know will use Bristol over Cardiff, the failed m4 relief road and failed transport improvements in Cardiff.
carefulks up one a race track never built, has any tvr been built in wales yet no that's right the building still in the same state it was when the last owner left. Cardiff airport nobody in wales actually uses most people I know will use Bristol over Cardiff, the failed m4 relief road and failed transport improvements in Cardiff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BXXLW52xgQ
the original
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eozO09thrE
phil_cardiff said:
Landcrab_Six said:
Independence 
Welcome to the great brain (and tax) drain.
'Brain drain' occurs now. Looking forward to your well reasoned response as to why Welsh Independence is a bad idea. Welcome to the great brain (and tax) drain.
My current bingo card has:
- Too poor
- Too small
- Too stupid
Landcrab_Six said:
phil_cardiff said:
'Brain drain' occurs now. Looking forward to your well reasoned response as to why Welsh Independence is a bad idea.
My current bingo card has:
- Too poor
- Too small
- Too stupid
Well, I'd love to see a fully costed argument against too poor and too small. And I'd question the intelligence of anyone who honestly believes Wales could stand alone as a fully independent nation. Wales runs at a massive fiscal deficit and is bailed out annually by the UK government.My current bingo card has:
- Too poor
- Too small
- Too stupid
(Let us also consider just how bad things could be if Dripford or Born Guessing were leaders of a truly independent Wales)
It's normal for independent nations to run at a fiscal deficit, many, many do. It's an issue if the debt used to fund the deficit becomes unsustainable for sure but somehow countries seem to make it work.
Would absolutely agree that a better quality politicial leader would be required. But I can say the same about the UK currently.
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