Welsh lockdown

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Evanivitch

20,204 posts

123 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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wobert said:
Evanivitch said:
wobert said:
Out of interest which licences are those, given the current vaccinations are being supplied and used under emergency licence terms?
Current vaccines are supplied and used under temporary licence terms, not emergency.
You know what meant....and it’s the emergency legislation that enables them to be supplied and used under the temporary licences....

So what about vaccinating under 18s, temporary licence as per adults or not?
Legislation already existed to allow vaccines to be administered under temporary licence, nothing to do with emergency legislation.

I would expect it to be under the same temporary licence, yes.

robuk

2,246 posts

191 months

robuk

2,246 posts

191 months

Tuesday 1st June 2021
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New Statesman today

"Wales has now vaccinated a greater share of its total population than any other country with more than one million people. Some 67.9 per cent of the 3.1 million people living in Wales have received a jab, compared to 63.0 per cent in second-placed Israel, 56.9 per cent in Canada and 56.8 per cent in mongolia."



"Strategy consultant Paul Mainwood told the BBC last week that Wales’s success was likely due to the speed with which it had processed vaccines. The country usually administers vaccinations within a few days of receiving its allocation, compared to 10-12 days in the case of the other UK nations. "

https://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/2021/06/...

wobert

5,059 posts

223 months

Tuesday 1st June 2021
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robuk said:
New Statesman today

"Wales has now vaccinated a greater share of its total population than any other country with more than one million people. Some 67.9 per cent of the 3.1 million people living in Wales have received a jab, compared to 63.0 per cent in second-placed Israel, 56.9 per cent in Canada and 56.8 per cent in mongolia."



"Strategy consultant Paul Mainwood told the BBC last week that Wales’s success was likely due to the speed with which it had processed vaccines. The country usually administers vaccinations within a few days of receiving its allocation, compared to 10-12 days in the case of the other UK nations. "

https://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/2021/06/...
Wow, sock it Drakeford for his class leading, esoteric leadership.

It’s a great pity he lacks in so many other areas, the NHS here in N Wales is a great example, but there’s none so blind as those who don’t see.... rolleyes

dickymint

24,439 posts

259 months

Tuesday 1st June 2021
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wobert said:
robuk said:
New Statesman today

"Wales has now vaccinated a greater share of its total population than any other country with more than one million people. Some 67.9 per cent of the 3.1 million people living in Wales have received a jab, compared to 63.0 per cent in second-placed Israel, 56.9 per cent in Canada and 56.8 per cent in mongolia."



"Strategy consultant Paul Mainwood told the BBC last week that Wales’s success was likely due to the speed with which it had processed vaccines. The country usually administers vaccinations within a few days of receiving its allocation, compared to 10-12 days in the case of the other UK nations. "

https://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/2021/06/...
Wow, sock it Drakeford for his class leading, esoteric leadership.


It’s a great pity he lacks in so many other areas, the NHS here in N Wales is a great example, but there’s none so blind as those who don’t see.... rolleyes
So you'd be happier if the Welsh figures were worse then.....rolleyes

I generally vote Tory and live in Monmouthshire however I have the greatest respect (and a fair bit of pride) for how Drakeford has dealt with Covid.
Anecdotally my Mother is in a care home about 5 miles up the road from me, last week was the first time in about a year that we had a face to face outdoor meeting and a hug (or should I say 'a cwtch') to date there has not been a single case of Covid for residents or carers thumbup

I wont be voting for Drakeford anytime soon but I will certainly applaud his stance and above all honesty in the way he's dealt with Covid.

phil_cardiff

7,105 posts

209 months

Tuesday 1st June 2021
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dickymint said:
So you'd be happier if the Welsh figures were worse then.....rolleyes

I generally vote Tory and live in Monmouthshire however I have the greatest respect (and a fair bit of pride) for how Drakeford has dealt with Covid.
Anecdotally my Mother is in a care home about 5 miles up the road from me, last week was the first time in about a year that we had a face to face outdoor meeting and a hug (or should I say 'a cwtch') to date there has not been a single case of Covid for residents or carers thumbup

I wont be voting for Drakeford anytime soon but I will certainly applaud his stance and above all honesty in the way he's dealt with Covid.
A balanced post on this thread?! I'm blown away!

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wobert

5,059 posts

223 months

Tuesday 1st June 2021
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dickymint said:
wobert said:
robuk said:
New Statesman today

"Wales has now vaccinated a greater share of its total population than any other country with more than one million people. Some 67.9 per cent of the 3.1 million people living in Wales have received a jab, compared to 63.0 per cent in second-placed Israel, 56.9 per cent in Canada and 56.8 per cent in mongolia."



"Strategy consultant Paul Mainwood told the BBC last week that Wales’s success was likely due to the speed with which it had processed vaccines. The country usually administers vaccinations within a few days of receiving its allocation, compared to 10-12 days in the case of the other UK nations. "

https://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/2021/06/...
Wow, sock it Drakeford for his class leading, esoteric leadership.


It’s a great pity he lacks in so many other areas, the NHS here in N Wales is a great example, but there’s none so blind as those who don’t see.... rolleyes
So you'd be happier if the Welsh figures were worse then.....rolleyes

I generally vote Tory and live in Monmouthshire however I have the greatest respect (and a fair bit of pride) for how Drakeford has dealt with Covid.
Anecdotally my Mother is in a care home about 5 miles up the road from me, last week was the first time in about a year that we had a face to face outdoor meeting and a hug (or should I say 'a cwtch') to date there has not been a single case of Covid for residents or carers thumbup

I wont be voting for Drakeford anytime soon but I will certainly applaud his stance and above all honesty in the way he's dealt with Covid.
You’ve kind of missed my point.....

It’s not Drakeford’s Covid response that entirely bothers me as much, as its clearly at the top of everyone’s priority at the moment.

What I’m more concerned about is the systemic failure of the NHS in N Wales, which started on Drakeford’s watch when he was health secretary, continued during Vaughan Gethin’s tenure, under Drakeford’s leadership, and was only ‘resolved’ ahead of the recent elections.

We now face a backlog running to years, with little or no plan of action on how to solve that issue, which if left as was, will undoubtedly kill as many if not more than Covid.

robuk

2,246 posts

191 months

Tuesday 1st June 2021
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wobert said:

What I’m more concerned about is the systemic failure of the NHS in N Wales, which started on Drakeford’s watch when he was health secretary, continued during Vaughan Gethin’s tenure, under Drakeford’s leadership, and was only ‘resolved’ ahead of the recent elections.

We now face a backlog running to years, with little or no plan of action on how to solve that issue.
I don't think anyone here has ever said the Welsh NHS is in tip top shape. I have said before it would be nice to have a day to day Wales thread in here.

It is possible to say literally best-in-world vaccine stuff is a Good Thing and give credit where it is due, without getting a Welsh Labour membership card smile

dickymint

24,439 posts

259 months

Tuesday 1st June 2021
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wobert said:
dickymint said:
wobert said:
robuk said:
New Statesman today

"Wales has now vaccinated a greater share of its total population than any other country with more than one million people. Some 67.9 per cent of the 3.1 million people living in Wales have received a jab, compared to 63.0 per cent in second-placed Israel, 56.9 per cent in Canada and 56.8 per cent in mongolia."



"Strategy consultant Paul Mainwood told the BBC last week that Wales’s success was likely due to the speed with which it had processed vaccines. The country usually administers vaccinations within a few days of receiving its allocation, compared to 10-12 days in the case of the other UK nations. "

https://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/2021/06/...
Wow, sock it Drakeford for his class leading, esoteric leadership.


It’s a great pity he lacks in so many other areas, the NHS here in N Wales is a great example, but there’s none so blind as those who don’t see.... rolleyes
So you'd be happier if the Welsh figures were worse then.....rolleyes

I generally vote Tory and live in Monmouthshire however I have the greatest respect (and a fair bit of pride) for how Drakeford has dealt with Covid.
Anecdotally my Mother is in a care home about 5 miles up the road from me, last week was the first time in about a year that we had a face to face outdoor meeting and a hug (or should I say 'a cwtch') to date there has not been a single case of Covid for residents or carers thumbup

I wont be voting for Drakeford anytime soon but I will certainly applaud his stance and above all honesty in the way he's dealt with Covid.
You’ve kind of missed my point.....

It’s not Drakeford’s Covid response that entirely bothers me as much, as its clearly at the top of everyone’s priority at the moment.

What I’m more concerned about is the systemic failure of the NHS in N Wales, which started on Drakeford’s watch when he was health secretary, continued during Vaughan Gethin’s tenure, under Drakeford’s leadership, and was only ‘resolved’ ahead of the recent elections.

We now face a backlog running to years, with little or no plan of action on how to solve that issue, which if left as was, will undoubtedly kill as many if not more than Covid.
No it's you "missing the point" as in the point of this topic.

wobert

5,059 posts

223 months

Tuesday 1st June 2021
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dickymint said:
wobert said:
dickymint said:
wobert said:
robuk said:
New Statesman today

"Wales has now vaccinated a greater share of its total population than any other country with more than one million people. Some 67.9 per cent of the 3.1 million people living in Wales have received a jab, compared to 63.0 per cent in second-placed Israel, 56.9 per cent in Canada and 56.8 per cent in mongolia."



"Strategy consultant Paul Mainwood told the BBC last week that Wales’s success was likely due to the speed with which it had processed vaccines. The country usually administers vaccinations within a few days of receiving its allocation, compared to 10-12 days in the case of the other UK nations. "

https://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/2021/06/...
Wow, sock it Drakeford for his class leading, esoteric leadership.


It’s a great pity he lacks in so many other areas, the NHS here in N Wales is a great example, but there’s none so blind as those who don’t see.... rolleyes
So you'd be happier if the Welsh figures were worse then.....rolleyes

I generally vote Tory and live in Monmouthshire however I have the greatest respect (and a fair bit of pride) for how Drakeford has dealt with Covid.
Anecdotally my Mother is in a care home about 5 miles up the road from me, last week was the first time in about a year that we had a face to face outdoor meeting and a hug (or should I say 'a cwtch') to date there has not been a single case of Covid for residents or carers thumbup

I wont be voting for Drakeford anytime soon but I will certainly applaud his stance and above all honesty in the way he's dealt with Covid.
You’ve kind of missed my point.....

It’s not Drakeford’s Covid response that entirely bothers me as much, as its clearly at the top of everyone’s priority at the moment.

What I’m more concerned about is the systemic failure of the NHS in N Wales, which started on Drakeford’s watch when he was health secretary, continued during Vaughan Gethin’s tenure, under Drakeford’s leadership, and was only ‘resolved’ ahead of the recent elections.

We now face a backlog running to years, with little or no plan of action on how to solve that issue, which if left as was, will undoubtedly kill as many if not more than Covid.
No it's you "missing the point" as in the point of this topic.
I’ll beg to differ re: Welsh Lockdowns, in totality, for longer than England.

NHS in a worse state going into lockdown, worse still, coming out, but hey folks, nothing to see here and Drakeford ‘has been honest’....

Personally, I think all politicians are a waste of space irrespective of political colour, hence my vote in the last election was one that was spoiled ‘none of the above’.

MG CHRIS

9,087 posts

168 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2021
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Oh no the Indian varriant may be in Wales but may not but let's test healthy people to raise the numbers up anyway can't have numbers being this low to long people might start asking questions.

robuk

2,246 posts

191 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2021
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MG CHRIS said:
Oh no the Indian varriant may be in Wales but may not but let's test healthy people to raise the numbers up anyway can't have numbers being this low to long people might start asking questions.
June 2021 and piss like that is still spouted.

Evanivitch

20,204 posts

123 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2021
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I ordered lateral flow kit a few weeks ago, and did my first test yesterday after a busy weekend. First time Covid test.

Credit to anyone that is doing that on a twice weekly or daily basis, and that includes the school kids and essential workers. That's minging.

Daveb257

1,004 posts

140 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2021
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robuk said:
MG CHRIS said:
Oh no the Indian varriant may be in Wales but may not but let's test healthy people to raise the numbers up anyway can't have numbers being this low to long people might start asking questions.
June 2021 and piss like that is still spouted.
As a point of reference, over half the positive cases in the latest Delta cluster in North Wales are showing no symptoms whatsoever, asymptomatic transomikaon does occur hence requests for people in a geographic or social setting to be tested

robuk

2,246 posts

191 months

Thursday 3rd June 2021
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https://gov.wales/first-minister-confirms-phased-m...

"First Minister confirms phased move to alert level one"

"If cases remain stable, we’ll look to complete the move to Alert Level 1 on 21 June.

This will allow more events to take place indoors, and greater freedoms for people to meet and socialise indoors." https://twitter.com/fmwales/status/140055716274157...

robuk

2,246 posts

191 months

Monday 7th June 2021
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All over-18s will be offered a Covid vaccine by the start of next week.




Byker28i

60,394 posts

218 months

Monday 7th June 2021
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robuk said:
All over-18s will be offered a Covid vaccine by the start of next week.

My 22 year old youngest got his in Swansea two weeks ago so it's already been happening there.

Byker28i

60,394 posts

218 months

Tuesday 15th June 2021
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The Covid hotspot of Wales remains Conwy where the infection rate now stands at 46.9 per 100,000 population following a cluster of cases of the Indian variant of concern in Llandudno Junction, Llandudno and Penrhyn Bay areas. Denbighshire is second with 39.7 cases per 100,000 and Swansea third with 30.8.

In terms of hospitalisations, there were 16 people in hospital beds in Wales with confirmed Covid-19 on June 11, down from 22 the day before, and there were two people in ventilated intensive care beds with the virus. The confirmed Covid-19 cases in ICU are in Cardiff and Vale UHB area and Betsi Cadwaladr UHB.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/health/covid-ca...

More than 400 pupils have been told to isolate after 25 coronavirus cases were ‘linked’ to 'teenage gatherings'.
An investigation had been launched into the increase in Covid cases, which had been traced to social gatherings including parties.
Denbighshire Council has confirmed that a total of three schools have been affected:

Ysgol Bryn Hyfryd, in Ruthin
Denbigh High School, Denbigh
St Brigid's School, Denbigh
A total of 428 pupils across the three schools have been told to isolate as a precaution. On Friday, Denbighshire council confirmed it was dealing with 10 "linked cases" but by Monday evening, that figure had increased to 25.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/more...

robuk

2,246 posts

191 months

Wednesday 14th July 2021
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Alert Level Zero announced for Wales in first week August.

https://gov.wales/sites/default/files/publications...

Really interesting read on first scan, not sure how anyone can complain about the contents?

Wales ahead of the game as usual?

dickymint

24,439 posts

259 months

Wednesday 14th July 2021
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robuk said:
Alert Level Zero announced for Wales in first week August.

https://gov.wales/sites/default/files/publications...

Really interesting read on first scan, not sure how anyone can complain about the contents?

Wales ahead of the game as usual?
Absolutely. I wont be voting Labour anytime soon but in my book Drakeford has been spot on in general - no bullst no politics (as such) and a genuine concern for us mere mortals. clap