Welsh lockdown

[oldbanger]

wobert said:

Byker28i said:

wobert said:

Out of interest, you use the phrase ‘mask denier’, how do you know for certain the person wasn’t genuinely exempt?

From his attitude and immediate aggressive language, probably if I'm honest based on the posts on the mask thread. Pretty much immediately verbatim repeating that thread. It was very uncomfortable.

So it seems it was his over the top reaction at being asked that prompted the refusal of entry, rather than the act of being without a face covering.

That’s fine and seems a proportionate reaction from the business owner.

And yet you choose to term him as a ‘mask denier’ rather than an unpleasant individual who doesn’t know how to behave.

I find the use of that phrase quite strange, but hey, if some else chooses to use a voluntary code to avoid wearing one, that’s their issue.

From my own perspective, I think there should be a personal choice regarding the vaccine and face covering use.

I see other phrases bandied around like ‘it’s only a face covering, what’s the issue’ but that fails to respect that that isn’t the case for everyone. Hence there is the ability to ‘self certify’ the exemption without detriment.

No ‘one size’ approach is suitable for everyone , so why not let them take personal responsibility for their actions and you, yours?

Edited by wobert on Saturday 17th July 17:14

Maybe he was exempt due to autism. That might also explain his poor social skills

[ATG]

Byker28i said:

Your opinion, not being there. My opinion on being there is different.
Weird behaviour from the tourist, hope thats not a sign of things to come whilst England/Wales are different

I'm sneaking out at night (in a mask, natch) to refit local sections of Offa's Dyke with a new palisade. Thank you, Offa, you Mercian prick. You've bequeathed us a means of keeping your wretched, sneezing descendents at bay. Social fking distancing 8th century stylee.

(I'm English, but I pay my council tax in Wales.)

[ATG]

oldbanger said:

Maybe he was exempt due to autism. That might also explain his poor social skills

To misquote Half Man Half Biscuit, "is your customer autistic, or is he perhaps a tt?" A question for our times.

[Byker28i]

£2k fine for breaking second lockdown. That was an expensive 50 mile trip

https://www.westerntelegraph.co.uk/news/19487793.l...

[kiethton]

Byker28i said:

£2k fine for breaking second lockdown. That was an expensive 50 mile trip

https://www.westerntelegraph.co.uk/news/19487793.l...

What a load of bks, a completely disproportionate fine for nothing.

Surprised he didn't plead N/G given there were enough gaps in the legislation to drive a bus through - you could manufacture a perfectly good excuse

Then, if pleading guilty you'd surely do a big pension payment that month to lower the fine materially given they ask for net income and don't specify a time period...this saved me a few £k fine for a speeding offence a few years back.

[dickymint]

kiethton said:

Byker28i said:

£2k fine for breaking second lockdown. That was an expensive 50 mile trip

https://www.westerntelegraph.co.uk/news/19487793.l...

What a load of bks, a completely disproportionate fine for nothing.

Surprised he didn't plead N/G given there were enough gaps in the legislation to drive a bus through - you could manufacture a perfectly good excuse

Then, if pleading guilty you'd surely do a big pension payment that month to lower the fine materially given they ask for net income and don't specify a time period...this saved me a few £k fine for a speeding offence a few years back.

Now that's a loophole I didn't know about ......... and needs to be fixed!!

[Byker28i]

kiethton said:

What a load of bks, a completely disproportionate fine for nothing.

Except that the Welsh Government had imposed limited travel rules to reduce the spread of the virus, declared fines and in the first lockdown, many fines were £800 in total in Pembrokeshire...

[BoRED S2upid]

Byker28i said:

kiethton said:

What a load of bks, a completely disproportionate fine for nothing.

Except that the Welsh Government had imposed limited travel rules to reduce the spread of the virus, declared fines and in the first lockdown, many fines were £800 in total in Pembrokeshire...

As above there were a few allowable reasons. I traveled into Wales from England every week to take shopping to my parents sometimes with the kids. Perfectly acceptable to do that.

[robscot]

All opening up - First Minister seemed quite perky at the briefing today.

[Byker28i]

robscot said:

All opening up - First Minister seemed quite perky at the briefing today.

Formal distancing rules end on 7th Aug, but masks still required in shops, transport and most public places...

[phil_cardiff]

Byker28i said:

robscot said:

All opening up - First Minister seemed quite perky at the briefing today.

Formal distancing rules end on 7th Aug, but masks still required in shops, transport and most public places...

Work from home if possible too. With a strategy to getting more people in Wales working closer to where they live. Interesting.