Welsh lockdown
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phil_cardiff said:
Not building the M4 relief road was the right decision.
You're the first person I know to say that. Why do you think it was right not to? Remember it was a manifesto pledge,I ask merely as someone that uses that stretch twice a week and it's generally awful, so much so it's so much quicker to divert through Newport
Mr Drakeford's move to scrap the six-lane scheme follows a public inquiry overseen by planning inspector Bill Wadrup, who said the case for the road had been "compelling".
Edited by Byker28i on Monday 26th October 09:43
phil_cardiff said:
Boom78 said:
phil_cardiff said:
There have been many failures if course but,how about researching some of the achievements too?
Please enlighten me, I’d love to know what great things they’ve done to counter balance their monumental screw upsByker28i said:
phil_cardiff said:
Not building the M4 relief road was the right decision.
You're the first person I know to say that. Why do you think it was right not to? Remember it was a manifesto pledge,I ask merely as someone that uses that stretch twice a week and it's generally awful, so much so it's so much quicker to divert through Newport
Mr Drakeford's move to scrap the six-lane scheme follows a public inquiry overseen by planning inspector Bill Wadrup, who said the case for the road had been "compelling".
Edited by Byker28i on Monday 26th October 09:43
https://usa.streetsblog.org/2017/06/21/the-science...
I do have sympathy for those that travel it daily, I hate it every time I do so (maybe 10.times a year) but I'd rather see 'proper' public transport schemes in place.
The WG have some very interesting plans for TfW. They've had some bad luck with rolling stock and some poor contracts but if they can deliver on their vision then it has the potential to be a real boost for Wales.
Wills2 said:
phil_cardiff said:
Boom78 said:
phil_cardiff said:
There have been many failures if course but,how about researching some of the achievements too?
Please enlighten me, I’d love to know what great things they’ve done to counter balance their monumental screw upshttps://stateofwales.com/2019/05/20-20-devolutions...
I'd already mentioned the improvement in educational standards as defined by PISA but we'll gloss over that.
Another positive is a form of proportional representation in the Welsh Government which I think is a good thing.
As for condescension, how about being told you're too poor, too small and too thick to be independent and that you won't be 'allowed' to do it anyway?
phil_cardiff said:
Byker28i said:
phil_cardiff said:
Not building the M4 relief road was the right decision.
You're the first person I know to say that. Why do you think it was right not to? Remember it was a manifesto pledge,I ask merely as someone that uses that stretch twice a week and it's generally awful, so much so it's so much quicker to divert through Newport
Mr Drakeford's move to scrap the six-lane scheme follows a public inquiry overseen by planning inspector Bill Wadrup, who said the case for the road had been "compelling".
https://usa.streetsblog.org/2017/06/21/the-science...
I do have sympathy for those that travel it daily, I hate it every time I do so (maybe 10.times a year) but I'd rather see 'proper' public transport schemes in place.
The WG have some very interesting plans for TfW. They've had some bad luck with rolling stock and some poor contracts but if they can deliver on their vision then it has the potential to be a real boost for Wales.
The relief road would have been a good solution for an immediate problem, created jobs, rather than just trying to punt the problem 20 years onwards.
A shopper has complained that she has been unable to buy sanitary products from a supermarket due to a ban on the sale of non-essential items.
In an exchange with a woman on Twitter, Tesco said it had been "told by the Welsh Government not to sell these items" during the firebreak lockdown.
Tesco has since deleted its tweet and apologised after the Welsh Government said its advice was wrong.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-54685886
In a tweet that was later deleted, Tesco responded to the complaint about its St Mellons store in Cardiff, by saying it had been told not to sell the items during the lockdown.
"This is wrong - period products are essential," the Welsh Government tweeted in response.
"Supermarkets can still sell items that can be sold in pharmacies. Only selling essential items during firebreak is to discourage spending more time than necessary in shops. It should not stop you accessing items that you need."
In an exchange with a woman on Twitter, Tesco said it had been "told by the Welsh Government not to sell these items" during the firebreak lockdown.
Tesco has since deleted its tweet and apologised after the Welsh Government said its advice was wrong.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-54685886
In a tweet that was later deleted, Tesco responded to the complaint about its St Mellons store in Cardiff, by saying it had been told not to sell the items during the lockdown.
"This is wrong - period products are essential," the Welsh Government tweeted in response.
"Supermarkets can still sell items that can be sold in pharmacies. Only selling essential items during firebreak is to discourage spending more time than necessary in shops. It should not stop you accessing items that you need."
FFS - trying to sneak in at night
A FAMILY drove all the way from Sussex to west Wales in the first hours of the Welsh firebreak lockdown.
During the early hours of Saturday, police pulled the car-load up on the A40 at Whitland.
Officers said: "Despite being aware of the national lockdown, they travelled over five hours for a non-essential reason. The occupants were suitably advised and escorted out of county."
https://www.westerntelegraph.co.uk/news/18821667.a...
A FAMILY drove all the way from Sussex to west Wales in the first hours of the Welsh firebreak lockdown.
During the early hours of Saturday, police pulled the car-load up on the A40 at Whitland.
Officers said: "Despite being aware of the national lockdown, they travelled over five hours for a non-essential reason. The occupants were suitably advised and escorted out of county."
https://www.westerntelegraph.co.uk/news/18821667.a...
Byker28i said:
A shopper has complained that she has been unable to buy sanitary products from a supermarket due to a ban on the sale of non-essential items.
In an exchange with a woman on Twitter, Tesco said it had been "told by the Welsh Government not to sell these items" during the firebreak lockdown.
Tesco has since deleted its tweet and apologised after the Welsh Government said its advice was wrong.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-54685886
In a tweet that was later deleted, Tesco responded to the complaint about its St Mellons store in Cardiff, by saying it had been told not to sell the items during the lockdown.
"This is wrong - period products are essential," the Welsh Government tweeted in response.
"Supermarkets can still sell items that can be sold in pharmacies. Only selling essential items during firebreak is to discourage spending more time than necessary in shops. It should not stop you accessing items that you need."
This is what happens when you have incompetent people in charge of policy, totally unworkable, anyone could foresee the huge potential for confusion and it's all for nothing. In an exchange with a woman on Twitter, Tesco said it had been "told by the Welsh Government not to sell these items" during the firebreak lockdown.
Tesco has since deleted its tweet and apologised after the Welsh Government said its advice was wrong.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-54685886
In a tweet that was later deleted, Tesco responded to the complaint about its St Mellons store in Cardiff, by saying it had been told not to sell the items during the lockdown.
"This is wrong - period products are essential," the Welsh Government tweeted in response.
"Supermarkets can still sell items that can be sold in pharmacies. Only selling essential items during firebreak is to discourage spending more time than necessary in shops. It should not stop you accessing items that you need."
I feel sorry for the people that live under that administration.
Byker28i said:
"Supermarkets can still sell items that can be sold in pharmacies."
Pharmacies near me sell loads of stuff including fragrances/aftershave, advent calendars and gifts for children! Are supermarkets now allowed to sell these?The whole thing is a shambles and I feel sorry for those people living under the regime. I hope they remember who was leading them when they vote next year.
Byker28i said:
phil_cardiff said:
Byker28i said:
phil_cardiff said:
Not building the M4 relief road was the right decision.
You're the first person I know to say that. Why do you think it was right not to? Remember it was a manifesto pledge,I ask merely as someone that uses that stretch twice a week and it's generally awful, so much so it's so much quicker to divert through Newport
Mr Drakeford's move to scrap the six-lane scheme follows a public inquiry overseen by planning inspector Bill Wadrup, who said the case for the road had been "compelling".
https://usa.streetsblog.org/2017/06/21/the-science...
I do have sympathy for those that travel it daily, I hate it every time I do so (maybe 10.times a year) but I'd rather see 'proper' public transport schemes in place.
The WG have some very interesting plans for TfW. They've had some bad luck with rolling stock and some poor contracts but if they can deliver on their vision then it has the potential to be a real boost for Wales.
The relief road would have been a good solution for an immediate problem, created jobs, rather than just trying to punt the problem 20 years onwards.
The idea might be to reduce car use and increase rail freight use leaving enough road capacity.
Nickbrapp said:
Hahahahahahaha a change from labour? You’ll be bloody lucky, I live in wales and when you talk to people about change they just say well maggie closed the mines and can’t quite grasp that in 20 years of labour in charge their lives haven’t improved.
I think devolution is pointless, what has it actually bought that’s worthy of noting?
Pros
Free prescriptions?
Cons
Didn’t remove SDLT for first time buyers
Cancelled M4 relief road
Even more confusing Covid rules
Massive cost
Can’t get any Job in public sector unless you can speak welsh. (Surely that’s discrimination)
A total wet melt in charge.
My sister got a job in the public sector (assuming a university is public sector) and didn't need to speak Welsh, but did have to agree to.learn it, at thier cost in works time, and be at a reasonable standard within 3 years. I think devolution is pointless, what has it actually bought that’s worthy of noting?
Pros
Free prescriptions?
Cons
Didn’t remove SDLT for first time buyers
Cancelled M4 relief road
Even more confusing Covid rules
Massive cost
Can’t get any Job in public sector unless you can speak welsh. (Surely that’s discrimination)
A total wet melt in charge.
She says that Welsh is used as a weapon. Not just to score points on English Staff, but also to score points of other Welsh staff who struggle with Welsh. If any official document, is sent out without a translation, they will immediately involve HR / Compliance. Staff at a junior level with any form of chipped shoulder are most likely to target Senior staff who are English.
My own mother moved to Wales on retirement in 2001 and has attended a weekly beginners course at the local college, every year. She's dyslexic, English and has always struggled with foreign languages. I've often wondered if the public institution, would really sack some one that couldn't learn Welsh sufficiently well in 3 years.
phil_cardiff said:
That's a fair point and you wonder if it played a part, albeit small, in Ineos pulling out of Bridgend.
The idea might be to reduce car use and increase rail freight use leaving enough road capacity.
You know they had a flawed argument when they claimed it would only advantage the english (no racism there), yet they've tried to make the M4 an economic corridor, attracting business because of the good links, the financial incentives, bringing employment to areas.The idea might be to reduce car use and increase rail freight use leaving enough road capacity.
The Bro Tathan at Cardiff aiirport, Rhyd Y Blew development at Ebbw Vale, which is why they put all that work into the Heads of the Valleys road, that feeds the traffic to Cardiff and Newport... to bottle neck there...
It really didn't look like joined up thinking
Byker28i said:
phil_cardiff said:
That's a fair point and you wonder if it played a part, albeit small, in Ineos pulling out of Bridgend.
The idea might be to reduce car use and increase rail freight use leaving enough road capacity.
You know they had a flawed argument when they claimed it would only advantage the english (no racism there), yet they've tried to make the M4 an economic corridor, attracting business because of the good links, the financial incentives, bringing employment to areas.The idea might be to reduce car use and increase rail freight use leaving enough road capacity.
The Bro Tathan at Cardiff aiirport, Rhyd Y Blew development at Ebbw Vale, which is why they put all that work into the Heads of the Valleys road, that feeds the traffic to Cardiff and Newport... to bottle neck there...
It really didn't look like joined up thinking
initially after the first lockdown finished it was quiet, but recently it's been bad again. It's 15 mins quicker to come off at the Caldicott junction 23A and come out on 28 again.
Still I get to see the transporter bridge.
I just didn't understand why they cancelled the bypass as it was all part of the enterprise development plan for south wales (ignoring my travel). You wonder if the housing developments on the Llanwern steelworks site was deliberately encouraged to put an end to the blue route.
Politics eh...
I've taken on some work now that means I'll be away from my welsh home mostly for the next 6-8 months. They might get their act together by then. I've packed up all the furniture into just two rooms and told the council it's empty
Still I get to see the transporter bridge.
I just didn't understand why they cancelled the bypass as it was all part of the enterprise development plan for south wales (ignoring my travel). You wonder if the housing developments on the Llanwern steelworks site was deliberately encouraged to put an end to the blue route.
Politics eh...
I've taken on some work now that means I'll be away from my welsh home mostly for the next 6-8 months. They might get their act together by then. I've packed up all the furniture into just two rooms and told the council it's empty
Edited by Byker28i on Monday 26th October 16:26
When Drakeford announced the ‘firebreak’ he spent a while talking about what would be done to help the private sector. The headline was £300m in funding for businesses to help see them through.
One of those funds was the ERF phase 3 grant scheme, which is available in tiers depending on the size of the business. The opening date for applications was today.
Quite a few people I know here in Wales were waiting on this as a life line for their businesses. I will probably apply but I’m not massively fussed as some of the terms are ridiculous.
Anyway, the Welsh gov keep changing the language, the goal posts and the tiers. It was supposed to go live for applications this morning. Around half three this afternoon they changed the copy on the website to say it’s opening on 28th October now.
As an aside the ERF phase 3 grant was in place at the start of October before any ‘firebreak’ was announced. But Drakeford and co just moved the goalposts and tiers when they announced the firebreak and tried to make it look like new funding. When in fact it was going out regardless.
The contempt with which Drakeford and the Welsh gov treat the private sector in Wales is f
king outrageous.
Last to find out about the firebreak in the first place. Then promised financial assistance doesn’t materialise in a timely fashion, or at all in some cases.
One of those funds was the ERF phase 3 grant scheme, which is available in tiers depending on the size of the business. The opening date for applications was today.
Quite a few people I know here in Wales were waiting on this as a life line for their businesses. I will probably apply but I’m not massively fussed as some of the terms are ridiculous.
Anyway, the Welsh gov keep changing the language, the goal posts and the tiers. It was supposed to go live for applications this morning. Around half three this afternoon they changed the copy on the website to say it’s opening on 28th October now.
As an aside the ERF phase 3 grant was in place at the start of October before any ‘firebreak’ was announced. But Drakeford and co just moved the goalposts and tiers when they announced the firebreak and tried to make it look like new funding. When in fact it was going out regardless.
The contempt with which Drakeford and the Welsh gov treat the private sector in Wales is f
king outrageous.Last to find out about the firebreak in the first place. Then promised financial assistance doesn’t materialise in a timely fashion, or at all in some cases.
foobies said:
When Drakeford announced the ‘firebreak’ he spent a while talking about what would be done to help the private sector. The headline was £300m in funding for businesses to help see them through.
One of those funds was the ERF phase 3 grant scheme, which is available in tiers depending on the size of the business. The opening date for applications was today.
Quite a few people I know here in Wales were waiting on this as a life line for their businesses. I will probably apply but I’m not massively fussed as some of the terms are ridiculous.
Anyway, the Welsh gov keep changing the language, the goal posts and the tiers. It was supposed to go live for applications this morning. Around half three this afternoon they changed the copy on the website to say it’s opening on 28th October now.
As an aside the ERF phase 3 grant was in place at the start of October before any ‘firebreak’ was announced. But Drakeford and co just moved the goalposts and tiers when they announced the firebreak and tried to make it look like new funding. When in fact it was going out regardless.
The contempt with which Drakeford and the Welsh gov treat the private sector in Wales is fking outrageous.
Last to find out about the firebreak in the first place. Then promised financial assistance doesn’t materialise in a timely fashion, or at all in some cases.
I was sat in my office impatiently drinking tea all morning waiting for them to open the applications for the Business Development Grant.One of those funds was the ERF phase 3 grant scheme, which is available in tiers depending on the size of the business. The opening date for applications was today.
Quite a few people I know here in Wales were waiting on this as a life line for their businesses. I will probably apply but I’m not massively fussed as some of the terms are ridiculous.
Anyway, the Welsh gov keep changing the language, the goal posts and the tiers. It was supposed to go live for applications this morning. Around half three this afternoon they changed the copy on the website to say it’s opening on 28th October now.
As an aside the ERF phase 3 grant was in place at the start of October before any ‘firebreak’ was announced. But Drakeford and co just moved the goalposts and tiers when they announced the firebreak and tried to make it look like new funding. When in fact it was going out regardless.
The contempt with which Drakeford and the Welsh gov treat the private sector in Wales is f
king outrageous.Last to find out about the firebreak in the first place. Then promised financial assistance doesn’t materialise in a timely fashion, or at all in some cases.
They did say week commencing 26th October so had a feeling it wouldn't have been today.
On a positive note it gives me an extra day to put the final touches to my business plan.
Pit Pony said:
Nickbrapp said:
Hahahahahahaha a change from labour? You’ll be bloody lucky, I live in wales and when you talk to people about change they just say well maggie closed the mines and can’t quite grasp that in 20 years of labour in charge their lives haven’t improved.
I think devolution is pointless, what has it actually bought that’s worthy of noting?
Pros
Free prescriptions?
Cons
Didn’t remove SDLT for first time buyers
Cancelled M4 relief road
Even more confusing Covid rules
Massive cost
Can’t get any Job in public sector unless you can speak welsh. (Surely that’s discrimination)
A total wet melt in charge.
My sister got a job in the public sector (assuming a university is public sector) and didn't need to speak Welsh, but did have to agree to.learn it, at thier cost in works time, and be at a reasonable standard within 3 years. I think devolution is pointless, what has it actually bought that’s worthy of noting?
Pros
Free prescriptions?
Cons
Didn’t remove SDLT for first time buyers
Cancelled M4 relief road
Even more confusing Covid rules
Massive cost
Can’t get any Job in public sector unless you can speak welsh. (Surely that’s discrimination)
A total wet melt in charge.
She says that Welsh is used as a weapon. Not just to score points on English Staff, but also to score points of other Welsh staff who struggle with Welsh. If any official document, is sent out without a translation, they will immediately involve HR / Compliance. Staff at a junior level with any form of chipped shoulder are most likely to target Senior staff who are English.
My own mother moved to Wales on retirement in 2001 and has attended a weekly beginners course at the local college, every year. She's dyslexic, English and has always struggled with foreign languages. I've often wondered if the public institution, would really sack some one that couldn't learn Welsh sufficiently well in 3 years.
Uncle; 40 years (council) retired.
Cousin; 18 years (council)
Mum; 35 years (council and NHS)
Brother; 6 years (council)
Not one of them speaks Welsh or has had to learn Welsh.
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