Welsh lockdown
Discussion
mac96 said:
Rh14n said:
Badgerboy said:
I do wonder how many Welsh speakers cannot speak English however.
Happy for those who wish to speak it to speak it, but I don't like it being rammed down my throat. I wish there was an opt out system for not recieving official documents in Welsh, bloody waste of paper and resources.
You clearly can't see the irony in this post. We are in Wales. Welsh is one of the oldest languages in Europe and the main reason for its decrease is that English has been "rammed down our throats" for the past 150 odd years by such means as the Welsh Not punishing and stigmatising children for speaking Welsh. Today, Welsh speakers oblige non-Welsh speaking people by speaking English with them. Many people suggest that by doing this we are perpetuating the problem because it allows them not to make any effort to learn Welsh. What other nation has allowed this to happen? If you were to move to France would you make some effort to learn French?Happy for those who wish to speak it to speak it, but I don't like it being rammed down my throat. I wish there was an opt out system for not recieving official documents in Welsh, bloody waste of paper and resources.
I'm lucky in that in speaking Welsh and English my life is doubly-enriched with both cultures and languages and living in Wales. If we lose the language we'll lose our heritage, literature, poetry, music and so much more. We don't want to deny you your right to speak English. Surely, in Wales, is it not my basic human right to use Welsh in may day-to-day life? I'm just sick of having to justify this simple concept.
Welsh isn't or wasn't only spoken in Wales, it was originally spoken across the entire of Great Britain, survived in wide areas during the introduction of various germanic languages including what would become olde English, and was still spoken in bits of England and Scotland into the modern era.
Welsh wasn't suppressed by the English either, it was part of a move to create a more unified Great Britain, where people were all literally singing from the same hymn sheet, using the language most commonly spoken on the island. The Welsh were just as complicit as the English and the Scottish in this.
Fascinating language and amazing that it survived for so long in common usage.
Welsh wasn't suppressed by the English either, it was part of a move to create a more unified Great Britain, where people were all literally singing from the same hymn sheet, using the language most commonly spoken on the island. The Welsh were just as complicit as the English and the Scottish in this.
Fascinating language and amazing that it survived for so long in common usage.
warch said:
Welsh isn't or wasn't only spoken in Wales, it was originally spoken across the entire of Great Britain, survived in wide areas during the introduction of various germanic languages including what would become olde English, and was still spoken in bits of England and Scotland into the modern era.
Welsh wasn't suppressed by the English either, it was part of a move to create a more unified Great Britain, where people were all literally singing from the same hymn sheet, using the language most commonly spoken on the island. The Welsh were just as complicit as the English and the Scottish in this.
Fascinating language and amazing that it survived for so long in common usage.
It’s been spoken in our English home this afternoon and will be every time we are walking on the beach and see a wibbly wobbly fish washed up. Welsh wasn't suppressed by the English either, it was part of a move to create a more unified Great Britain, where people were all literally singing from the same hymn sheet, using the language most commonly spoken on the island. The Welsh were just as complicit as the English and the Scottish in this.
Fascinating language and amazing that it survived for so long in common usage.
Noodle1982 said:
BoRED S2upid said:
It’s been spoken in our English home this afternoon and will be every time we are walking on the beach and see a wibbly wobbly fish washed up.
BoRED S2upid said:
Noodle1982 said:
A favourite of mine, albeit not entirely accurate is pysgodyn wibbli wobbli
A jelly fish? I will have to teach the kids that one. Edit: I see someone got there before me!
warch said:
Welsh isn't or wasn't only spoken in Wales, it was originally spoken across the entire of Great Britain, survived in wide areas during the introduction of various germanic languages including what would become olde English, and was still spoken in bits of England and Scotland into the modern era.
Welsh wasn't suppressed by the English either, it was part of a move to create a more unified Great Britain, where people were all literally singing from the same hymn sheet, using the language most commonly spoken on the island. The Welsh were just as complicit as the English and the Scottish in this.
Fascinating language and amazing that it survived for so long in common usage.
Some Welsh were complicit, but not all (same goes for the Scottish and English). Mainly the upper classes if I remember rightly?Welsh wasn't suppressed by the English either, it was part of a move to create a more unified Great Britain, where people were all literally singing from the same hymn sheet, using the language most commonly spoken on the island. The Welsh were just as complicit as the English and the Scottish in this.
Fascinating language and amazing that it survived for so long in common usage.
Immigration during the industrial revolution also played a part in the demise of Welsh as a language. Immigration continues to play a part today but not on the same scale.
The interesting thing about Welsh is it's a phonetic language so if you learn the alphabet you're pretty much there. Sort of...
phil_cardiff said:
Some Welsh were complicit, but not all (same goes for the Scottish and English). Mainly the upper classes if I remember rightly?
Immigration during the industrial revolution also played a part in the demise of Welsh as a language. Immigration continues to play a part today but not on the same scale.
The interesting thing about Welsh is it's a phonetic language so if you learn the alphabet you're pretty much there. Sort of...
It is indeed a phonetic language so, unlike English, each letter is only pronounced in one way so is actually easier in that sense than English - we don't have issues where similarly spelt words are pronounced differently e.g. cough, bough and rough ... oh, we also actually have more vowels (7) than English.Immigration during the industrial revolution also played a part in the demise of Welsh as a language. Immigration continues to play a part today but not on the same scale.
The interesting thing about Welsh is it's a phonetic language so if you learn the alphabet you're pretty much there. Sort of...
Noodle1982 said:
Another amusing Welsh word...sboncen.
I remember back in Welsh class everyone's favourite sport, when asked by the teacher, was squash. None of us had ever played it though but it gave us a excuse to answer with.. 'rydw I'm hoffi sboncen' .
It never failed to get the girls giggling.
Rwy'n hoffi coffi used to be a favourite also.I remember back in Welsh class everyone's favourite sport, when asked by the teacher, was squash. None of us had ever played it though but it gave us a excuse to answer with.. 'rydw I'm hoffi sboncen' .
It never failed to get the girls giggling.
phil_cardiff said:
warch said:
Welsh isn't or wasn't only spoken in Wales, it was originally spoken across the entire of Great Britain, survived in wide areas during the introduction of various germanic languages including what would become olde English, and was still spoken in bits of England and Scotland into the modern era.
Welsh wasn't suppressed by the English either, it was part of a move to create a more unified Great Britain, where people were all literally singing from the same hymn sheet, using the language most commonly spoken on the island. The Welsh were just as complicit as the English and the Scottish in this.
Fascinating language and amazing that it survived for so long in common usage.
Some Welsh were complicit, but not all (same goes for the Scottish and English). Mainly the upper classes if I remember rightly?Welsh wasn't suppressed by the English either, it was part of a move to create a more unified Great Britain, where people were all literally singing from the same hymn sheet, using the language most commonly spoken on the island. The Welsh were just as complicit as the English and the Scottish in this.
Fascinating language and amazing that it survived for so long in common usage.
Immigration during the industrial revolution also played a part in the demise of Welsh as a language. Immigration continues to play a part today but not on the same scale.
The interesting thing about Welsh is it's a phonetic language so if you learn the alphabet you're pretty much there. Sort of...
I quite enjoy being able to understand Welsh, which also comes in quite useful for my job. It does rather annoy me when people sneer at the use of the language.
Biker 1 said:
We’re all in it together don’t you know Richmond is after all the home of ( London ) Welsh rugby
Ynox said:
Noodle1982 said:
Another amusing Welsh word...sboncen.
I remember back in Welsh class everyone's favourite sport, when asked by the teacher, was squash. None of us had ever played it though but it gave us a excuse to answer with.. 'rydw I'm hoffi sboncen' .
It never failed to get the girls giggling.
Rwy'n hoffi coffi used to be a favourite also.I remember back in Welsh class everyone's favourite sport, when asked by the teacher, was squash. None of us had ever played it though but it gave us a excuse to answer with.. 'rydw I'm hoffi sboncen' .
It never failed to get the girls giggling.
)worsy said:
Ynox said:
Noodle1982 said:
Another amusing Welsh word...sboncen.
I remember back in Welsh class everyone's favourite sport, when asked by the teacher, was squash. None of us had ever played it though but it gave us a excuse to answer with.. 'rydw I'm hoffi sboncen' .
It never failed to get the girls giggling.
Rwy'n hoffi coffi used to be a favourite also.I remember back in Welsh class everyone's favourite sport, when asked by the teacher, was squash. None of us had ever played it though but it gave us a excuse to answer with.. 'rydw I'm hoffi sboncen' .
It never failed to get the girls giggling.
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