Welsh lockdown
Discussion
So far this year I’ve been unable to leave Cardiff for approx 130 days. I believe it’ll be near 200 by the end of the year. I suspect Wales will have had some of the longest lockdowns in the world, but we still have terrible case numbers.
I believe that a large reason for the poor numbers is the complete lack of any rules enforcement. This has been the case for the entire crisis. I rarely ever see the police and I’m right in the middle of our biggest city.
I believe that a large reason for the poor numbers is the complete lack of any rules enforcement. This has been the case for the entire crisis. I rarely ever see the police and I’m right in the middle of our biggest city.
Matt.. said:
So far this year I’ve been unable to leave Cardiff for approx 130 days. I believe it’ll be near 200 by the end of the year. I suspect Wales will have had some of the longest lockdowns in the world, but we still have terrible case numbers.
I believe that a large reason for the poor numbers is the complete lack of any rules enforcement. This has been the case for the entire crisis. I rarely ever see the police and I’m right in the middle of our biggest city.
Didn't police go into a church in Cardiff to break-up a congregation? I'm sure there were a few American accents in there too...I believe that a large reason for the poor numbers is the complete lack of any rules enforcement. This has been the case for the entire crisis. I rarely ever see the police and I’m right in the middle of our biggest city.
But yes, I agree. There's been perhaps a dozen rugby clubs that have been identified as centres of outbreaks, and social distancing in supermarkets is nowhere like it was in April. The rules were sufficient if followed.
I’m loving this ,I’m working away this weekend in Plymouth ,and been for a meal and pint ,One more week back in wales and it won’t be long every thing back open ,back to the local ,not that I go out in a school night anyway,so next weekend do some (brownie points) jobs in the house then I’ll have my pub/take away / time back
Evanivitch said:
Didn't police go into a church in Cardiff to break-up a congregation? I'm sure there were a few American accents in there too...
But yes, I agree. There's been perhaps a dozen rugby clubs that have been identified as centres of outbreaks, and social distancing in supermarkets is nowhere like it was in April. The rules were sufficient if followed.
I hear lockdown didn’t exist in parts of Newport the first time around. I’ve crossed the boarder numerous times in the last week and I’m yet to see any police. But yes, I agree. There's been perhaps a dozen rugby clubs that have been identified as centres of outbreaks, and social distancing in supermarkets is nowhere like it was in April. The rules were sufficient if followed.
Jamesgt said:
Evanivitch said:
Didn't police go into a church in Cardiff to break-up a congregation? I'm sure there were a few American accents in there too...
But yes, I agree. There's been perhaps a dozen rugby clubs that have been identified as centres of outbreaks, and social distancing in supermarkets is nowhere like it was in April. The rules were sufficient if followed.
I hear lockdown didn’t exist in parts of Newport the first time around. I’ve crossed the boarder numerous times in the last week and I’m yet to see any police. But yes, I agree. There's been perhaps a dozen rugby clubs that have been identified as centres of outbreaks, and social distancing in supermarkets is nowhere like it was in April. The rules were sufficient if followed.
Blaming the behaviour of people whilst ignoring the spectacularly unsuccessful national lead track and trace programme is an interesting take on things.
Anyway, I see England may well have a four week lockdown from next Wednesday. Or are the Westminster government testing public reaction to policies via the press again?
Anyway, I see England may well have a four week lockdown from next Wednesday. Or are the Westminster government testing public reaction to policies via the press again?
Edited by phil_cardiff on Saturday 31st October 00:46
Usual phil blaming wales problems on someone else always the common theme when critisim of anything from the wag through health education or economy its always the fault of Westminster. Yes most are well aware of the failure of track and trace but the welsh firebreak was nothing to do with that more drakeford playing politics.
As for failure phw are still having large lags in reporting data 37 deaths got added one day that were over a 17 day period how do you miss 17 days of data and as for case numbers that's been a mess for a while. Also the phw updates are full of bugs and errors . Also we shouldn't forget the largest health board in north wales being in special measures for 5 years under drakeford watch it always interesting you never mention that.
Back to the lockdown been in work this week yes the traffic is lower because schools are closed but its nowhere near down to the levels back in may when I went back to work also way more shops/fast food/companies open this time round time will tell but I don't believe numbers of cases will drop at all and by the looks of them are increasing atm. Also very few cops around and deffenitly no check points to check journeys between county lines and im going through 3 every day. Im also hearing more people becoming increasingly distrustful of the firebreak and of the wag/drakeford they are running a fine line.
As for failure phw are still having large lags in reporting data 37 deaths got added one day that were over a 17 day period how do you miss 17 days of data and as for case numbers that's been a mess for a while. Also the phw updates are full of bugs and errors . Also we shouldn't forget the largest health board in north wales being in special measures for 5 years under drakeford watch it always interesting you never mention that.
Back to the lockdown been in work this week yes the traffic is lower because schools are closed but its nowhere near down to the levels back in may when I went back to work also way more shops/fast food/companies open this time round time will tell but I don't believe numbers of cases will drop at all and by the looks of them are increasing atm. Also very few cops around and deffenitly no check points to check journeys between county lines and im going through 3 every day. Im also hearing more people becoming increasingly distrustful of the firebreak and of the wag/drakeford they are running a fine line.
Shocking numbers in Wales? Give me a break.
We have had complete lockdowns for 100/100k, yet in England are only just moving to Tier 3 in areas with 600+/100k.
I still only know one person who’s had COVID despite living in Flintshire and being this close to the border and all the ‘risks’ that brings.
I’ll continue to ignore all and any rules as per the previous 6 months.
No doubt that pandering coward in Cardiff will align the national lockdown with the end of the Welsh lockdown so a further 4 weeks, destroying even more lives in the process, the ignorant self serving rat.
We have had complete lockdowns for 100/100k, yet in England are only just moving to Tier 3 in areas with 600+/100k.
I still only know one person who’s had COVID despite living in Flintshire and being this close to the border and all the ‘risks’ that brings.
I’ll continue to ignore all and any rules as per the previous 6 months.
No doubt that pandering coward in Cardiff will align the national lockdown with the end of the Welsh lockdown so a further 4 weeks, destroying even more lives in the process, the ignorant self serving rat.
MG CHRIS said:
Usual phil blaming wales problems on someone else always the common theme when critisim of anything from the wag through health education or economy its always the fault of Westminster. Yes most are well aware of the failure of track and trace but the welsh firebreak was nothing to do with that more drakeford playing politics.
As for failure phw are still having large lags in reporting data 37 deaths got added one day that were over a 17 day period how do you miss 17 days of data and as for case numbers that's been a mess for a while. Also the phw updates are full of bugs and errors . Also we shouldn't forget the largest health board in north wales being in special measures for 5 years under drakeford watch it always interesting you never mention that.
Back to the lockdown been in work this week yes the traffic is lower because schools are closed but its nowhere near down to the levels back in may when I went back to work also way more shops/fast food/companies open this time round time will tell but I don't believe numbers of cases will drop at all and by the looks of them are increasing atm. Also very few cops around and deffenitly no check points to check journeys between county lines and im going through 3 every day. Im also hearing more people becoming increasingly distrustful of the firebreak and of the wag/drakeford they are running a fine line.
It's a pretty simple concept. You won't need lockdowns if you have effective track and trace. As for failure phw are still having large lags in reporting data 37 deaths got added one day that were over a 17 day period how do you miss 17 days of data and as for case numbers that's been a mess for a while. Also the phw updates are full of bugs and errors . Also we shouldn't forget the largest health board in north wales being in special measures for 5 years under drakeford watch it always interesting you never mention that.
Back to the lockdown been in work this week yes the traffic is lower because schools are closed but its nowhere near down to the levels back in may when I went back to work also way more shops/fast food/companies open this time round time will tell but I don't believe numbers of cases will drop at all and by the looks of them are increasing atm. Also very few cops around and deffenitly no check points to check journeys between county lines and im going through 3 every day. Im also hearing more people becoming increasingly distrustful of the firebreak and of the wag/drakeford they are running a fine line.
Still, looking forward to the criticism of Boris commencing soon.
The Welsh Conservatives have gone very quiet. As have those who said Drakeford was only using the lockdown to score political points.
Oh well.
Lord.Vader said:
Shocking numbers in Wales? Give me a break.
We have had complete lockdowns for 100/100k, yet in England are only just moving to Tier 3 in areas with 600+/100k.
I still only know one person who’s had COVID despite living in Flintshire and being this close to the border and all the ‘risks’ that brings.
I’ll continue to ignore all and any rules as per the previous 6 months.
No doubt that pandering coward in Cardiff will align the national lockdown with the end of the Welsh lockdown so a further 4 weeks, destroying even more lives in the process, the ignorant self serving rat.
How embarrassing. You admit to being a cause of the problem and then call the people trying to pick up after you names. We have had complete lockdowns for 100/100k, yet in England are only just moving to Tier 3 in areas with 600+/100k.
I still only know one person who’s had COVID despite living in Flintshire and being this close to the border and all the ‘risks’ that brings.
I’ll continue to ignore all and any rules as per the previous 6 months.
No doubt that pandering coward in Cardiff will align the national lockdown with the end of the Welsh lockdown so a further 4 weeks, destroying even more lives in the process, the ignorant self serving rat.
Telling.
Lord.Vader said:
Shocking numbers in Wales? Give me a break.
We have had complete lockdowns for 100/100k, yet in England are only just moving to Tier 3 in areas with 600+/100k.
I still only know one person who’s had COVID despite living in Flintshire and being this close to the border and all the ‘risks’ that brings.
I’ll continue to ignore all and any rules as per the previous 6 months.
No doubt that pandering coward in Cardiff will align the national lockdown with the end of the Welsh lockdown so a further 4 weeks, destroying even more lives in the process, the ignorant self serving rat.
You must have your head in the sand ... I live in next-door Denbighshire and know of several Covid sufferers. Good luck with your gung-ho attitude.We have had complete lockdowns for 100/100k, yet in England are only just moving to Tier 3 in areas with 600+/100k.
I still only know one person who’s had COVID despite living in Flintshire and being this close to the border and all the ‘risks’ that brings.
I’ll continue to ignore all and any rules as per the previous 6 months.
No doubt that pandering coward in Cardiff will align the national lockdown with the end of the Welsh lockdown so a further 4 weeks, destroying even more lives in the process, the ignorant self serving rat.
phil_cardiff said:
Blaming the behaviour of people whilst ignoring the spectacularly unsuccessful national lead track and trace programme is an interesting take on things.
Anyway, I see England may well have a four week lockdown from next Wednesday. Or are the Westminster government testing public reaction to policies via the press again?
Welsh track and trace has been very effective...Anyway, I see England may well have a four week lockdown from next Wednesday. Or are the Westminster government testing public reaction to policies via the press again?
Edited by phil_cardiff on Saturday 31st October 00:46
Evanivitch said:
phil_cardiff said:
Blaming the behaviour of people whilst ignoring the spectacularly unsuccessful national lead track and trace programme is an interesting take on things.
Anyway, I see England may well have a four week lockdown from next Wednesday. Or are the Westminster government testing public reaction to policies via the press again?
Welsh track and trace has been very effective...Anyway, I see England may well have a four week lockdown from next Wednesday. Or are the Westminster government testing public reaction to policies via the press again?
Edited by phil_cardiff on Saturday 31st October 00:46
phil_cardiff said:
MG CHRIS said:
Usual phil blaming wales problems on someone else always the common theme when critisim of anything from the wag through health education or economy its always the fault of Westminster. Yes most are well aware of the failure of track and trace but the welsh firebreak was nothing to do with that more drakeford playing politics.
As for failure phw are still having large lags in reporting data 37 deaths got added one day that were over a 17 day period how do you miss 17 days of data and as for case numbers that's been a mess for a while. Also the phw updates are full of bugs and errors . Also we shouldn't forget the largest health board in north wales being in special measures for 5 years under drakeford watch it always interesting you never mention that.
Back to the lockdown been in work this week yes the traffic is lower because schools are closed but its nowhere near down to the levels back in may when I went back to work also way more shops/fast food/companies open this time round time will tell but I don't believe numbers of cases will drop at all and by the looks of them are increasing atm. Also very few cops around and deffenitly no check points to check journeys between county lines and im going through 3 every day. Im also hearing more people becoming increasingly distrustful of the firebreak and of the wag/drakeford they are running a fine line.
It's a pretty simple concept. You won't need lockdowns if you have effective track and trace.As for failure phw are still having large lags in reporting data 37 deaths got added one day that were over a 17 day period how do you miss 17 days of data and as for case numbers that's been a mess for a while. Also the phw updates are full of bugs and errors . Also we shouldn't forget the largest health board in north wales being in special measures for 5 years under drakeford watch it always interesting you never mention that.
Back to the lockdown been in work this week yes the traffic is lower because schools are closed but its nowhere near down to the levels back in may when I went back to work also way more shops/fast food/companies open this time round time will tell but I don't believe numbers of cases will drop at all and by the looks of them are increasing atm. Also very few cops around and deffenitly no check points to check journeys between county lines and im going through 3 every day. Im also hearing more people becoming increasingly distrustful of the firebreak and of the wag/drakeford they are running a fine line.
Still, looking forward to the criticism of Boris commencing soon.
The Welsh Conservatives have gone very quiet. As have those who said Drakeford was only using the lockdown to score political points.
Oh well.
The only successful track and trace is in places like South Korea where they use methods like forced quarantine, checking phone GPS and credit card transactions that would not be possible in a western country.
Rh14n said:
Lord.Vader said:
Shocking numbers in Wales? Give me a break.
We have had complete lockdowns for 100/100k, yet in England are only just moving to Tier 3 in areas with 600+/100k.
I still only know one person who’s had COVID despite living in Flintshire and being this close to the border and all the ‘risks’ that brings.
I’ll continue to ignore all and any rules as per the previous 6 months.
No doubt that pandering coward in Cardiff will align the national lockdown with the end of the Welsh lockdown so a further 4 weeks, destroying even more lives in the process, the ignorant self serving rat.
You must have your head in the sand ... I live in next-door Denbighshire and know of several Covid sufferers. Good luck with your gung-ho attitude.We have had complete lockdowns for 100/100k, yet in England are only just moving to Tier 3 in areas with 600+/100k.
I still only know one person who’s had COVID despite living in Flintshire and being this close to the border and all the ‘risks’ that brings.
I’ll continue to ignore all and any rules as per the previous 6 months.
No doubt that pandering coward in Cardiff will align the national lockdown with the end of the Welsh lockdown so a further 4 weeks, destroying even more lives in the process, the ignorant self serving rat.
I’ve been out to the pub, house parties, on the bikes, restaurants, essentially carried on as normal since March, still just the one person who tested positive around two weeks ago, my wife went for dinner with her on the Sunday, indoors and despite sharing food / drinks. etc, my wife’s test was negative and the other girl tested positive on the Monday.
I’m early 30’s, friends are 25-35.
I’ll take my chances thanks, you do as you see fit.
Lord.Vader said:
How’s that then?
I’ve been out to the pub, house parties, on the bikes, restaurants, essentially carried on as normal since March, still just the one person who tested positive around two weeks ago, my wife went for dinner with her on the Sunday, indoors and despite sharing food / drinks. etc, my wife’s test was negative and the other girl tested positive on the Monday.
I’m early 30’s, friends are 25-35.
I’ll take my chances thanks, you do as you see fit.
People like you are why entire countries get locked down. I know you don’t care, but it’s shocking to see how incredibly self-centred you are. The world is more than just you. I’ve been out to the pub, house parties, on the bikes, restaurants, essentially carried on as normal since March, still just the one person who tested positive around two weeks ago, my wife went for dinner with her on the Sunday, indoors and despite sharing food / drinks. etc, my wife’s test was negative and the other girl tested positive on the Monday.
I’m early 30’s, friends are 25-35.
I’ll take my chances thanks, you do as you see fit.
If people like you were even slightly more caring of others then we would be done with this crisis and back to normal.
You won’t see it, and you’ll call everyone else stupid, but it’s clear you are the problem.
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