How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 15)

[gooner1]

Biggy Stardust said:

Stay in Bed Instead said:

Do we have a UK fleet that can take up the slack once we exclude French fishermen?

Maybe we could let fish stocks recover.

Like Stay in the sea Bed Instead you mean?

[crankedup]

catweasle said:

crankedup said:

RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:

JNW1 said:

And allowing French fishermen access to the UK's waters might well be a good compromise; however, at the moment I'm not clear what the UK's being offered in return for granting those French fishermen the access Macron wants?

Um, a trade deal with the EU?

Nope, the EU also want a ‘level playing field’ as well as those fishing Rights. [b] No chance, can’t see
the U.K. bending over. [/b]

Didn't do Mrs May any good when she tried it.

I voted to leave the EU along with 17.4 million like minded electorate. Level,playing field is for playing footie on, end of Boris understands the political capital that he has invested into a proper
brexit, any back tracking on his part would be political suicide at this point.

[Stay in Bed Instead]

crankedup said:

I voted to leave the EU along with 17.4 million like minded electorate. Level,playing field is for playing footie on, end of Boris understands the political capital that he has invested into a proper
brexit, any back tracking on his part would be political suicide at this point.

Shame he agreed to do it in the Political Declaration then.

[crankedup]

gooner1 said:

Biggy Stardust said:

Stay in Bed Instead said:

Do we have a UK fleet that can take up the slack once we exclude French fishermen?

Maybe we could let fish stocks recover.

Like Stay in the sea Bed Instead you mean?

Boom !!!
Thank you for some humour.

[crankedup]

Stay in Bed Instead said:

crankedup said:

I voted to leave the EU along with 17.4 million like minded electorate. Level,playing field is for playing footie on, end of Boris understands the political capital that he has invested into a proper
brexit, any back tracking on his part would be political suicide at this point.

Shame he agreed to do it in the Political Declaration then.

He didn’t.

[Tuna]

Unknown_User said:

I see the USofA is demanding up to £10 billion from the U.K. and our partners for unfair aircraft subsides.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/UKNews1/idUKKBN2701...

I wonder what the USofA would make of Dom Cum/Boris’ planned state funded tech industry..... And we should think ourselves lucky that we still have the EU to help us fight this dispute with the USofA.

Um... Airbus is an EU operation. We were told this many times by you and your co-loons during Brexit, because they were absolutely definitely going to take their toys home any moment now...

[Stay in Bed Instead]

crankedup said:

He didn’t.

Is it panto season?

[stongle]

Unknown_User said:

I see the USofA is demanding up to £10 billion from the U.K. and our partners for unfair aircraft subsides.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/UKNews1/idUKKBN2701...

I wonder what the USofA would make of Dom Cum/Boris’ planned state funded tech industry..... And we should think ourselves lucky that we still have the EU to help us fight this dispute with the USofA.

LoLs. Take a breath before posting. That is GCSE level tttery.

France got everyone in the sh*t by constant abuses (so why we should take ANY notice in a trade deal is starting to look like a joke off the bat). And we can talk all day about Airbus getting caught in corruption fines (suppose the apple doesn't really fall far from the tree). I mean its nice our SFO has extra-territorial powers to share in the bounty. Thanks for the 1bn, so glad we have regulatory teeth in the game.

And you have to laugh at the limp wristed double standards by the EC on that one. Get whacked with 7.5bn tariffs by WTO, get a compensatory 4bn back Vs Boeing; but them have the gall (actually it was more like crying) to ask that they should be binned off.

This is why Boris should be calling the EC bluff today and saying, we've offered landing zones; there is no more movement. We will not acquiesce to unreasonable demands we are off. There might be 26 states taking a very, very dim view of electioneering.

[loafer123]

This was in a Telegraph article recently;

"Another EU source insisted that there would be no resumption of trade negotiations with Brussels in the aftermath of no deal. Instead Britain would be forced to strike bilateral agreements with individual member countries to mitigate the economic impact."

If there is no Brexit deal, to what degree are individual EU countries able to sign up to bi-lateral agreements with the UK?

[Tuna]

stongle said:

Unknown_User said:

I see the USofA is demanding up to £10 billion from the U.K. and our partners for unfair aircraft subsides.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/UKNews1/idUKKBN2701...

I wonder what the USofA would make of Dom Cum/Boris’ planned state funded tech industry..... And we should think ourselves lucky that we still have the EU to help us fight this dispute with the USofA.

LoLs. Take a breath before posting. That is GCSE level tttery.

France got everyone in the sh*t by constant abuses (so why we should take ANY notice in a trade deal is starting to look like a joke off the bat). And we can talk all day about Airbus getting caught in corruption fines (suppose the apple doesn't really fall far from the tree). I mean its nice our SFO has extra-territorial powers to share in the bounty. Thanks for the 1bn, so glad we have regulatory teeth in the game.

And you have to laugh at the limp wristed double standards by the EC on that one. Get whacked with 7.5bn tariffs by WTO, get a compensatory 4bn back Vs Boeing; but them have the gall (actually it was more like crying) to ask that they should be binned off.

This is why Boris should be calling the EC bluff today and saying, we've offered landing zones; there is no more movement. We will not acquiesce to unreasonable demands we are off. There might be 26 states taking a very, very dim view of electioneering.

It's a bit hilarious that the same moral crusaders are righteously outraged in one thread that Cummings didn't have to pay 30K in back dated council tax, but then struggle to comprehend that the EU are trying to bail on a few billion. They can't even figure out which side is which. It takes a special level of stupid to link to an article attacking your own team.

[crankedup]

Stay in Bed Instead said:

crankedup said:

He didn’t.

Is it panto season?

It would have been if you had come back with ‘oh yes he did’

[SpeckledJim]

loafer123 said:

This was in a Telegraph article recently;

"Another EU source insisted that there would be no resumption of trade negotiations with Brussels in the aftermath of no deal. Instead Britain would be forced to strike bilateral agreements with individual member countries to mitigate the economic impact."

If there is no Brexit deal, to what degree are individual EU countries able to sign up to bi-lateral agreements with the UK?

I didn't think they were. I thought the customs union means they can only make trade arrangements with external countries as a single, unified, group.

[loafer123]

SpeckledJim said:

loafer123 said:

This was in a Telegraph article recently;

"Another EU source insisted that there would be no resumption of trade negotiations with Brussels in the aftermath of no deal. Instead Britain would be forced to strike bilateral agreements with individual member countries to mitigate the economic impact."

If there is no Brexit deal, to what degree are individual EU countries able to sign up to bi-lateral agreements with the UK?

I didn't think they were. I thought the customs union means they can only make trade arrangements with external countries as a single, unified, group.

That was my view, too.

[crankedup]

Tuna said:

stongle said:

Unknown_User said:

I see the USofA is demanding up to £10 billion from the U.K. and our partners for unfair aircraft subsides.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/UKNews1/idUKKBN2701...

I wonder what the USofA would make of Dom Cum/Boris’ planned state funded tech industry..... And we should think ourselves lucky that we still have the EU to help us fight this dispute with the USofA.

LoLs. Take a breath before posting. That is GCSE level tttery.

France got everyone in the sh*t by constant abuses (so why we should take ANY notice in a trade deal is starting to look like a joke off the bat). And we can talk all day about Airbus getting caught in corruption fines (suppose the apple doesn't really fall far from the tree). I mean its nice our SFO has extra-territorial powers to share in the bounty. Thanks for the 1bn, so glad we have regulatory teeth in the game.

And you have to laugh at the limp wristed double standards by the EC on that one. Get whacked with 7.5bn tariffs by WTO, get a compensatory 4bn back Vs Boeing; but them have the gall (actually it was more like crying) to ask that they should be binned off.

This is why Boris should be calling the EC bluff today and saying, we've offered landing zones; there is no more movement. We will not acquiesce to unreasonable demands we are off. There might be 26 states taking a very, very dim view of electioneering.

It's a bit hilarious that the same moral crusaders are righteously outraged in one thread that Cummings didn't have to pay 30K in back dated council tax, but then struggle to comprehend that the EU are trying to bail on a few billion. They can't even figure out which side is which. It takes a special level of stupid to link to an article attacking your own team.

Either thick as mince or simply trolls, nothing else to it other than thick trolls.
Why U.K. citizens constantly wish for our Government to fail in the trade negotiations is baffling. Maybe some will enlighten?

[anonymous-user]

crankedup said:

RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:

JNW1 said:

And allowing French fishermen access to the UK's waters might well be a good compromise; however, at the moment I'm not clear what the UK's being offered in return for granting those French fishermen the access Macron wants?

Um, a trade deal with the EU?

Nope, the EU also want a ‘level playing field’ as well as those fishing Rights. No chance, can’t see
the U.K. bending over.

Oh, right. So it's not all about the fishing rights, after all.

The EU are entitled to put a price on (relatively) friction free trade within the bloc. That's their key asset. It sounds as if some on here want us to effectively tell the EU "we left, get over it, now give us what we want with nothing but trading with us in return". Life doesn't work like that.

[Stay in Bed Instead]

RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:

Oh, right. So it's not all about the fishing rights, after all.

The EU are entitled to put a price on (relatively) friction free trade within the bloc. That's their key asset. It sounds as if some on here want us to effectively tell the EU "we left, get over it, now give us what we want with nothing but trading with us in return". Life doesn't work like that.

Nope, it's always the EU's fault.

[crankedup]

RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:

crankedup said:

RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:

JNW1 said:

And allowing French fishermen access to the UK's waters might well be a good compromise; however, at the moment I'm not clear what the UK's being offered in return for granting those French fishermen the access Macron wants?

Um, a trade deal with the EU?

Nope, the EU also want a ‘level playing field’ as well as those fishing Rights. No chance, can’t see
the U.K. bending over.

Oh, right. So it's not all about the fishing rights, after all.

The EU are entitled to put a price on (relatively) friction free trade within the bloc. That's their key asset. It sounds as if some on here want us to effectively tell the EU "we left, get over it, now give us what we want with nothing but trading with us in return". Life doesn't work like that.

Life worked like that pre EU days!
It’s is about a lot more than fishing Rights for sure, it’s just that fishing has peeps all hot and bothered at the moment.
Where have I said that the EU are not entitled to place their cards on the table? I am saying that currently those cards will remain on the table.

[stongle]

crankedup said:

Either thick as mince or simply trolls, nothing else to it other than thick trolls.
Why U.K. citizens constantly wish for our Government to fail in the trade negotiations is baffling. Maybe some will enlighten?

Idiocracy, manipulation, not as sharp as they think, etc etc.

Take your pick.

Although I welcome the high balls to volley.

[Unknown_User]

crankedup said:

Tuna said:

stongle said:

Unknown_User said:

I see the USofA is demanding up to £10 billion from the U.K. and our partners for unfair aircraft subsides.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/UKNews1/idUKKBN2701...

I wonder what the USofA would make of Dom Cum/Boris’ planned state funded tech industry..... And we should think ourselves lucky that we still have the EU to help us fight this dispute with the USofA.

LoLs. Take a breath before posting. That is GCSE level tttery.

France got everyone in the sh*t by constant abuses (so why we should take ANY notice in a trade deal is starting to look like a joke off the bat). And we can talk all day about Airbus getting caught in corruption fines (suppose the apple doesn't really fall far from the tree). I mean its nice our SFO has extra-territorial powers to share in the bounty. Thanks for the 1bn, so glad we have regulatory teeth in the game.

And you have to laugh at the limp wristed double standards by the EC on that one. Get whacked with 7.5bn tariffs by WTO, get a compensatory 4bn back Vs Boeing; but them have the gall (actually it was more like crying) to ask that they should be binned off.

This is why Boris should be calling the EC bluff today and saying, we've offered landing zones; there is no more movement. We will not acquiesce to unreasonable demands we are off. There might be 26 states taking a very, very dim view of electioneering.

It's a bit hilarious that the same moral crusaders are righteously outraged in one thread that Cummings didn't have to pay 30K in back dated council tax, but then struggle to comprehend that the EU are trying to bail on a few billion. They can't even figure out which side is which. It takes a special level of stupid to link to an article attacking your own team.

Either thick as mince or simply trolls, nothing else to it other than thick trolls.
Why U.K. citizens constantly wish for our Government to fail in the trade negotiations is baffling. Maybe some will enlighten?

So do any of you Ultra's want to guess how the USofA will view a state funded UK Tech industry?

[gooner1]

Stay in Bed Instead said:

crankedup said:

He didn’t.

Is it panto season?

Could be, it was 12 o’clock and no sign of Dick till you turned up.