How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 15)

How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 15)

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anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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Murph7355 said:
Ahhhhh, another furious about Brexit despite it making them better off and there being no downside to them.
Rather than just making stuff up, perhaps you'll be kind enough to explain how Brexit is making me, or anyone else, "better off"?

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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rockin said:
jsf said:
I watch Bloomberg a lot during the day in the background. It has consistently misrepresented the facts with regards to Brexit.
Time will tell. Since Bloomberg is an American/global outfit whose business model is entirely dependent upon objective reporting and decision making I think you're likely to find your version of the "facts" might usefully be preceded by the word "alternative".
Nope, the commentary and articles have not been factual in content on many occasions. It's quite fun watching the markets go in the opposite direction to the spin at times.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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rockin said:
I think it was Putin's spokesman who said, "Britain is just a small island who nobody listens to". Many a true word.
Using the words of a murderous dictator who poisons his opposition, murders UK citizens in the UK with the use of chemical weapons and carries out systematic attacks on everything from the Olympic Games to free elections word wide is not a smart idea.

Tuna

19,930 posts

285 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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rockin said:
It's simply wouldn't be in their interests to try to influence British politics, let alone trying to do so through a media outlet with a small and specialised business audience.
roflroflrofl I was suggesting their foreign news is not very good, not an attempt at influence. I ask again, you have seen the state of American media lately?

Thanks for the chuckle.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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rockin said:
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I think it was Putin's spokesman who said, "Britain is just a small island who nobody listens to". Many a true word.
Why would you think that quote is appropriate?

Borghetto

3,274 posts

184 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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anonymous said:
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Because he's a bit of a dick, with lots of anger to spread.

Crackie

6,386 posts

243 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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rockin said:
I think it was Putin's spokesman who said, "Britain is just a small island who nobody listens to". Many a true word.
hehe

A few people do.......... https://softpower30.com/country/united-kingdom/?co...

Biggy Stardust

6,924 posts

45 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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Borghetto said:
Because he's a bit of a dick, with lots of anger to spread.
Would you please clarify whom you mean when you say 'he'?

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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Nothing left in the tank so they turn to trolling.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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anonymous said:
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And your explanation of UK stock market underperformance is what, exactly?

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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Borghetto said:
Because he's a bit of a dick, with lots of anger to spread.
And your explanation of UK stock market underperformance is what, exactly?

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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Tuna said:
roflroflrofl Thanks for the chuckle.
And your explanation of UK stock market underperformance is what, exactly?

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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jsf said:
It's quite fun watching the markets go in the opposite direction to the spin at times.
And your explanation of UK stock market underperformance is what, exactly?

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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rockin said:
And your explanation of UK stock market underperformance is what, exactly?
Lots of reasons.

Major ones are currency strengthening, March GBP/USD was 1.14, it's now 1.29. FTSE100 has large numbers of companies that are tied to foreign exchange rates. Pound goes up, FTSE100 goes down.

FTSE also has a lot of exposure to energy markets, oil price is 24% lower than immediately before the lockdown for the pandemic.

Another is the makeup of UK GDP, which is heavily service sector job related compared to other major economies. The Covid pandemic has impacted service sector heavily.

What's your explanation?


Murph7355

37,757 posts

257 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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rockin said:
Murph7355 said:
Ahhhhh, another furious about Brexit despite it making them better off and there being no downside to them.
Rather than just making stuff up, perhaps you'll be kind enough to explain how Brexit is making me, or anyone else, "better off"?
Well I presume without Brexit we'd be unlikely to have Boris as PM right now with a sizeable majority. And without Boris, you wouldn't have the opportunity to post this sort of pompous guff...

rockin said:
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Happily, having identified the prudent approach of steering away from Pilot Boris and his determination to fly Aircraft UK into the side of a mountain, I'm substantially better off today than would otherwise be the case. ...
Same old same old.

Digga

40,349 posts

284 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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rockin said:
jsf said:
I watch Bloomberg a lot during the day in the background. It has consistently misrepresented the facts with regards to Brexit.
Time will tell. Since Bloomberg is an American/global outfit whose business model is entirely dependent upon objective reporting and decision making I think you're likely to find your version of the "facts" might usefully be preceded by the word "alternative".
Bloomberg is pretty decent but, like much of the MSM, they are pro-EU, as they are pro-UN nd, pro-WHO, because chiefly they are pro-globalist.

I am not knocking either their stance or quality of their journalism, but they are not and have never been on-the-fence objective about Brexit.

Tuna

19,930 posts

285 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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rockin said:
And your explanation of UK stock market underperformance is what, exactly?
Do you think asking the same question multiple times makes you look smart when you've actually been given some clear answers by people with direct knowledge of the situation?

Another angry man to ignore. rolleyes

stongle

5,910 posts

163 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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rockin said:
That's it - never mind the facts, just vent your spleen.

Happily, having identified the prudent approach of steering away from Pilot Boris and his determination to fly Aircraft UK into the side of a mountain, I'm substantially better off today than would otherwise be the case.

I think it was Putin's spokesman who said, "Britain is just a small island who nobody listens to". Many a true word.
The only one venting their spleen, no stupidity is you.

Whether you are a fan of Brexit or not, the performance of the S&P500 is due to 5 or 6 tech stocks that have performed (actually OUT) the rest of the Index over the Covid period. They account for 20% of its weight. The FTSE, is more globally representative. Similar to the SX5E which is similar in composition. I'd love to know what "clever" trade you did to remove UK correlation over the last few years, you must have massive trading cajonnes for that size punt.

Since you are not comparing like for like, you are talking - quite frankly bks. Which has been most of the arguments from remain on the economics of this thus far. The price of beer in Malia being a personal favourite; closely run by NOT understanding the difference between actual and opportunity growth.

Happily, for the rest of us you have taken flight (bet you was humming John Denver all the way); I'm sure whatever European village you have moved to welcomes it's new idiot.



FiF

44,121 posts

252 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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stongle said:
rockin said:
That's it - never mind the facts, just vent your spleen.

Happily, having identified the prudent approach of steering away from Pilot Boris and his determination to fly Aircraft UK into the side of a mountain, I'm substantially better off today than would otherwise be the case.

I think it was Putin's spokesman who said, "Britain is just a small island who nobody listens to". Many a true word.
The only one venting their spleen, no stupidity is you.

Whether you are a fan of Brexit or not, the performance of the S&P500 is due to 5 or 6 tech stocks that have performed (actually OUT) the rest of the Index over the Covid period. They account for 20% of its weight. The FTSE, is more globally representative. Similar to the SX5E which is similar in composition. I'd love to know what "clever" trade you did to remove UK correlation over the last few years, you must have massive trading cajonnes for that size punt.

Since you are not comparing like for like, you are talking - quite frankly bks. Which has been most of the arguments from remain on the economics of this thus far. The price of beer in Malia being a personal favourite; closely run by NOT understanding the difference between actual and opportunity growth.

Happily, for the rest of us you have taken flight (bet you was humming John Denver all the way); I'm sure whatever European village you have moved to welcomes it's new idiot.
Harsh but...

gooner1

10,223 posts

180 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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FiF said:
stongle said:
rockin said:
That's it - never mind the facts, just vent your spleen.

Happily, having identified the prudent approach of steering away from Pilot Boris and his determination to fly Aircraft UK into the side of a mountain, I'm substantially better off today than would otherwise be the case.

I think it was Putin's spokesman who said, "Britain is just a small island who nobody listens to". Many a true word.
The only one venting their spleen, no stupidity is you.

Whether you are a fan of Brexit or not, the performance of the S&P500 is due to 5 or 6 tech stocks that have performed (actually OUT) the rest of the Index over the Covid period. They account for 20% of its weight. The FTSE, is more globally representative. Similar to the SX5E which is similar in composition. I'd love to know what "clever" trade you did to remove UK correlation over the last few years, you must have massive trading cajonnes for that size punt.

Since you are not comparing like for like, you are talking - quite frankly bks. Which has been most of the arguments from remain on the economics of this thus far. The price of beer in Malia being a personal favourite; closely run by NOT understanding the difference between actual and opportunity growth.

Happily, for the rest of us you have taken flight (bet you was humming John Denver all the way); I'm sure whatever European village you have moved to welcomes it's new idiot.
Harsh but...
.......very amusing. biggrin

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