How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 15)

[Stay in Bed Instead]

crankedup said:

Either thick as mince or simply trolls, nothing else to it other than thick trolls.
Why U.K. citizens constantly wish for our Government to fail in the trade negotiations is baffling. Maybe some will enlighten?

The only people I have noted that do not want a FTA are leavers.

[anonymous-user]

loafer123 said:

This was in a Telegraph article recently;

"Another EU source insisted that there would be no resumption of trade negotiations with Brussels in the aftermath of no deal. Instead Britain would be forced to strike bilateral agreements with individual member countries to mitigate the economic impact."

If there is no Brexit deal, to what degree are individual EU countries able to sign up to bi-lateral agreements with the UK?

On trade in goods, none.
On trade in services and other areas of current EU none competence areas, lots.

[crankedup]

stongle said:

crankedup said:

Either thick as mince or simply trolls, nothing else to it other than thick trolls.
Why U.K. citizens constantly wish for our Government to fail in the trade negotiations is baffling. Maybe some will enlighten?

Idiocracy, manipulation, not as sharp as they think, etc etc.

Take your pick.

Although I welcome the high balls to volley.

Yes I noticed that a swift backhand seems to be required on occasion.
Seriously though, it is a baffling situation that some wish the U.K. to fail in the face of these important negotiations. Those living outside of the U.K., fair enough have a pop if you must.

[Biggy Stardust]

RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:

JNW1 said:

And allowing French fishermen access to the UK's waters might well be a good compromise; however, at the moment I'm not clear what the UK's being offered in return for granting those French fishermen the access Macron wants?

Um, a trade deal with the EU?

Is that within France's gift? I thought the EU was doing the trade deal thing, not France.

[stongle]

Unknown_User said:

So do any of you Ultra's want to guess how the USofA will view a state funded UK Tech industry?

Since it doesnt exist, who knows.

Perhaps you should ground yourself in reality a bit. Learn something, it would stop you posting when out of your depth.

Also, lay of the insults the only ultra here; is your ultra moronic stupidity. Most of the interesting thread contributors are a nuns front bum fart either side of leave / remain. Only you seek division. Perhaps this would help. Chuck D said:

Its not black Vs white, but everyone versus racists.

Had you eased off the crap, there would have been a better debate on the merits of FoM and actual immigration. But you seek to sow dissent.

Special (not in a good way).

[anonymous-user]

Biggy Stardust said:

Is that within France's gift? I thought the EU was doing the trade deal thing, not France.

Do member states have power of veto?

[Tuna]

Unknown_User said:

So do any of you Ultra's want to guess how the USofA will view a state funded UK Tech industry?

Are you seriously advocating we break state aid rules the same way Airbus did? You really are out of your depth here.

And here's a question for you - what is "Ultra" about my position? Please give me a reason to be an ultra?

..or are you just a troll?

[don'tbesilly]

Stay in Bed Instead said:

crankedup said:

I voted to leave the EU along with 17.4 million like minded electorate. Level,playing field is for playing footie on, end of Boris understands the political capital that he has invested into a proper
brexit, any back tracking on his part would be political suicide at this point.

Shame he agreed to do it in the Political Declaration then.

As Mrr T mentioned earlier, it's not binding in any way.

[Unknown_User]

Tuna said:

Unknown_User said:

So do any of you Ultra's want to guess how the USofA will view a state funded UK Tech industry?

Are you seriously advocating we break state aid rules the same way Airbus did? You really are out of your depth here.

And here's a question for you - what is "Ultra" about my position? Please give me a reason to be an ultra?

..or are you just a troll?

You're feverish support of Dom Cum over the last day has been quite startling! Or are you going to deny that?

[stongle]

Tuna said:

Are you seriously advocating we break state aid rules the same way Airbus did? You really are out of your depth here.

And here's a question for you - what is "Ultra" about my position? Please give me a reason to be an ultra?

..or are you just a troll?

Shush, he doesn't know France announced 8.4bn to support tech firms.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/techcrunch.com/2020/0...

Maybe he doesn't sit high enough in the shortbus to see the billboards whizzing past.

Edit to add. They also plan to use a Fund of Funds structure. A mickey mouse attempt to hide ownership, and if you know anything of such structures a way to lose your shirt, jacket, pants etc etc.

Edited by stongle on Thursday 15th October 17:25

[anonymous-user]

Biggy Stardust said:

Is that within France's gift? I thought the EU was doing the trade deal thing, not France.

Any new treaty or FTA needs approval of all member states and has to pass each member states ratification process to become legal.
In practice the EU often allows the new FTA to be in force before final ratification, like lots of areas, they ignore their own rules when it suits.

This is why at the very start it was idiotic to agree to the EU timetable, as anything agreed during the Article 50 process was qualified majority only, but May was such an imbecile she caved.

[DeejRC]

Unknown_User said:

crankedup said:

Tuna said:

stongle said:

Unknown_User said:

I see the USofA is demanding up to £10 billion from the U.K. and our partners for unfair aircraft subsides.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/UKNews1/idUKKBN2701...

I wonder what the USofA would make of Dom Cum/Boris’ planned state funded tech industry..... And we should think ourselves lucky that we still have the EU to help us fight this dispute with the USofA.

LoLs. Take a breath before posting. That is GCSE level tttery.

France got everyone in the sh*t by constant abuses (so why we should take ANY notice in a trade deal is starting to look like a joke off the bat). And we can talk all day about Airbus getting caught in corruption fines (suppose the apple doesn't really fall far from the tree). I mean its nice our SFO has extra-territorial powers to share in the bounty. Thanks for the 1bn, so glad we have regulatory teeth in the game.

And you have to laugh at the limp wristed double standards by the EC on that one. Get whacked with 7.5bn tariffs by WTO, get a compensatory 4bn back Vs Boeing; but them have the gall (actually it was more like crying) to ask that they should be binned off.

This is why Boris should be calling the EC bluff today and saying, we've offered landing zones; there is no more movement. We will not acquiesce to unreasonable demands we are off. There might be 26 states taking a very, very dim view of electioneering.

It's a bit hilarious that the same moral crusaders are righteously outraged in one thread that Cummings didn't have to pay 30K in back dated council tax, but then struggle to comprehend that the EU are trying to bail on a few billion. They can't even figure out which side is which. It takes a special level of stupid to link to an article attacking your own team.

Either thick as mince or simply trolls, nothing else to it other than thick trolls.
Why U.K. citizens constantly wish for our Government to fail in the trade negotiations is baffling. Maybe some will enlighten?

So do any of you Ultra's want to guess how the USofA will view a state funded UK Tech industry?

Speaking as someone with quite a bit of skin in that game...Id be fking delighted to see some of this state funding within the UK "Tech industry"...!

And Im smack in the middle of it! That would almost be funny if it wasnt so comical.

[stongle]

DeejRC said:

Speaking as someone with quite a bit of skin in that game...Id be fking delighted to see some of this state funding within the UK "Tech industry"...!

And Im smack in the middle of it! That would almost be funny if it wasnt so comical.

Me too. Doing our first series A, I'll take the queens schilling.

[Tuna]

Unknown_User said:

You're feverish support of Dom Cum over the last day has been quite startling! Or are you going to deny that?

It's "your". You really are struggling with comprehension aren't you? Go and re-read what I've said - it is all about you, not Cummings.

Tuna said:

Some people are deeply butt hurt to discover that their opinions aren't as important as they thought they were. They are the ones who keep Cummings prominent, because they want that opinion to be accepted by those around them.

I've not said a thing to support Cummings, just commented on the behaviour of people who dislike him. I'm amazed you didn't notice.

Now, try again - what "ultra" position do I have on Brexit, the EU Negotiations, the Tories, even Johnson?

[hutchst]

catweasle said:

Didn't do Mrs May any good when she tried it.

Bugger. That's an image I wish I could unsee.

[DeejRC]

stongle said:

DeejRC said:

Speaking as someone with quite a bit of skin in that game...Id be fking delighted to see some of this state funding within the UK "Tech industry"...!

And Im smack in the middle of it! That would almost be funny if it wasnt so comical.

Me too. Doing our first series A, I'll take the queens schilling.

An A Series now counts as Tech industry? Not sure even Nick Swift would claim that Stongle...

• runs away and hides*

[anonymous-user]

Von der Layen has gone into quarantine as her staff have tested positive for CV19.

[stongle]

DeejRC said:

An A Series now counts as Tech industry? Not sure even Nick Swift would claim that Stongle...

• runs away and hides*

Tbh, I'm not the "funding" guy, but I do know that we are doing our first funding round as I'm getting hollowed out paying for devs (in the EU). I need more money to pay for all the colours and whoosh bang sounds some of the clients are asking for.

Which is an interesting aside, regardless of Brexit Deal or not, I'm still sending money to Poland for the devs.

Nothing really stops (unless you believe certain posters)....

[don'tbesilly]

Lithuanian President Gitanas Naus?da tells the EU Summit…

“… we have to intensify our efforts in order to bridge, or to try to bridge, remaining gaps — for example fisheries, level playing field and governance. … We also should be prepared for both options, for both alternatives — deal and no deal … no matter what will be the scenario, I think it’s very important to keep [the] United Kingdom as close as possible to [the] European Union.”

The latest:

Edited by don'tbesilly on Thursday 15th October 17:51

[DeejRC]

stongle said:

DeejRC said:

An A Series now counts as Tech industry? Not sure even Nick Swift would claim that Stongle...

• runs away and hides*

Tbh, I'm not the "funding" guy, but I do know that we are doing our first funding round as I'm getting hollowed out paying for devs (in the EU). I need more money to pay for all the colours and whoosh bang sounds some of the clients are asking for.

Which is an interesting aside, regardless of Brexit Deal or not, I'm still sending money to Poland for the devs.

Nothing really stops (unless you believe certain posters)....

Oh Stongle...please tell me a whoosh parrot is not required...