How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 15)
Discussion
SpeckledJim said:
I reckon the deal is pretty much done, and they're now choreographing the best way for each to enable the other to climb down with as much remaining credibility as possible.
Stranger things have happened. In the end, it was always going to be;
a.) last minute, and
b.) a fudge of some description
Life is seldom perfect.
rockin said:
And my point is that he's fundamentally wrong. Further, not one of you has been able to give any hint of where UK's future growth will come from.
Boris has promised new prosperity in the sunlit uplands yet there's absolutely no indication of how it's going to be delivered. This from two weeks ago,
"The Prime Minister has called on British businesses to exploit the new opportunities he believes leaving the European Union will bring to the UK."
Only true believers can see the light...
Do you have anything new to add to the debate?Boris has promised new prosperity in the sunlit uplands yet there's absolutely no indication of how it's going to be delivered. This from two weeks ago,
"The Prime Minister has called on British businesses to exploit the new opportunities he believes leaving the European Union will bring to the UK."
Only true believers can see the light...
rockin said:
Tuna said:
His point is that it has the square root of bugger all to do with Brexit. Is it really that hard to grasp?
And my point is that he's fundamentally wrong. Further, not one of you has been able to give any hint of where UK's future growthwill come from.Boris has promised new prosperity in the sunlit uplands yet there's absolutely no indication of how it's going to be delivered. This from two weeks ago,
"The Prime Minister has called on British businesses to exploit the new opportunities he believes leaving the European Union will bring to the UK."
Only true believers can see the light...
Stay in Bed Instead said:
crankedup said:
Good post.
Yes you are absolutely correct, I certainly did use the incorrect word, obviously. I really must be much more careful in the future.
Liquid lunch?Yes you are absolutely correct, I certainly did use the incorrect word, obviously. I really must be much more careful in the future.
Our local still hasn’t opened since the start of the original lockdown!
rockin said:
Tuna said:
His point is that it has the square root of bugger all to do with Brexit. Is it really that hard to grasp?
And my point is that he's fundamentally wrong. Further, not one of you has been able to give any hint of where UK's future growth will come from.Boris has promised new prosperity in the sunlit uplands yet there's absolutely no indication of how it's going to be delivered. This from two weeks ago,
"The Prime Minister has called on British businesses to exploit the new opportunities he believes leaving the European Union will bring to the UK."
Only true believers can see the light...
rockin said:
Tuna said:
His point is that it has the square root of bugger all to do with Brexit. Is it really that hard to grasp?
And my point is that he's fundamentally wrong. Further, not one of you has been able to give any hint of where UK's future growth will come from.Boris has promised new prosperity in the sunlit uplands yet there's absolutely no indication of how it's going to be delivered. This from two weeks ago,
"The Prime Minister has called on British businesses to exploit the new opportunities he believes leaving the European Union will bring to the UK."
Only true believers can see the light...
rockin said:
And my point is that he's fundamentally wrong. Further, not one of you has been able to give any hint of where UK's future growth will come from.
Boris has promised new prosperity in the sunlit uplands yet there's absolutely no indication of how it's going to be delivered. This from two weeks ago,
"The Prime Minister has called on British businesses to exploit the new opportunities he believes leaving the European Union will bring to the UK."
Only true believers can see the light...
No, I'm correct. You are talking crap. You keep proving you haven't a scooby how broad based indices are constructed and traded. I dont comment on political rhetoric. You are squirming to avoid attention on silly analysis.Boris has promised new prosperity in the sunlit uplands yet there's absolutely no indication of how it's going to be delivered. This from two weeks ago,
"The Prime Minister has called on British businesses to exploit the new opportunities he believes leaving the European Union will bring to the UK."
Only true believers can see the light...
You incorrectly conflated Covid and Brexit, and now think Brexiters can reconstruct FTSE100 for selfish gains.
Neither can be done. FTSE composition is a construct of investor demands, volume and where stocks are listed (and that is up for debate depending the governments FS blueprint).
Calling me wrong, when you have displayed the financial acumen of a turnip is pretty funny. Especially as you claimed the biggest market punt ever.
So rather than me (repeating) why you know the square root of f
k all about index performance (as others in the industry have done - with credentials) you could enlighten us to this mega trade you made, and how you computed for market and regulatory risk.You can't, can you; because there isn't a publicly traded instrument that accounts for your position other than binary option scams.
Next time, don't bring a knife to a gunfight. Although I'm sure several of the echo chamber can wipe your tears.
SpeckledJim said:
rockin said:
Tuna said:
His point is that it has the square root of bugger all to do with Brexit. Is it really that hard to grasp?
And my point is that he's fundamentally wrong. Further, not one of you has been able to give any hint of where UK's future growthwill come from.Boris has promised new prosperity in the sunlit uplands yet there's absolutely no indication of how it's going to be delivered. This from two weeks ago,
"The Prime Minister has called on British businesses to exploit the new opportunities he believes leaving the European Union will bring to the UK."
Only true believers can see the light...
maz8062 said:
The question that you replied to was where was the UK's future growth going to come from? I'm not sure the world outside of the EU helps in narrowing that down.
Its an irrelevant question in the context of Rockin dying. He's trying to deflect his lack of knowledge whilst previously claiming the greatest trade since Jordan Belfort fked Steve Madden.Oh, and the answer (near term) will be service industry growth. Since the EC already capitulated there (finance infratsructure) no reason to think it won't grow. In particular Fintech. We took over 85% of EU fintech deals in 2019.
Hopefully longer term (mid) high tech industrial growth, through the promised fiscal invest.
Longer term, we were always due to win.
Tuna said:
Helicopter123 said:
Whohe123 said:
The first of many companies?
https://twitter.com/EbooksDirect/status/1318176315...
Since the UK will no longer be operating in cooperation with EU tax bodies after the transition period ends, at that point the changes in the article linked to above will take effect. Those changes mean that companies functioning as online marketplaces (OMPs) selling directly to UK customers must (at considerable expense) register with the UK VAT office, and file remittance paperwork with the VAT office for every item sold. (This paperwork would have to be filed even when "selling" items that are below the VAT thresholds, or free. We would be entirely willing to simply decline to charge UK customers VAT, but the new regulations won't permit that.)
Sad news. There will be more.https://twitter.com/EbooksDirect/status/1318176315...
Since the UK will no longer be operating in cooperation with EU tax bodies after the transition period ends, at that point the changes in the article linked to above will take effect. Those changes mean that companies functioning as online marketplaces (OMPs) selling directly to UK customers must (at considerable expense) register with the UK VAT office, and file remittance paperwork with the VAT office for every item sold. (This paperwork would have to be filed even when "selling" items that are below the VAT thresholds, or free. We would be entirely willing to simply decline to charge UK customers VAT, but the new regulations won't permit that.)
How long did you have to trawl the internet to find that gem?
Edited by Tuna on Tuesday 20th October 14:49
stongle said:
maz8062 said:
The question that you replied to was where was the UK's future growth going to come from? I'm not sure the world outside of the EU helps in narrowing that down.
Its an irrelevant question in the context of Rockin dying. He's trying to deflect his lack of knowledge whilst previously claiming the greatest trade since Jordan Belfort fked Steve Madden.Oh, and the answer (near term) will be service industry growth. Since the EC already capitulated there (finance infratsructure) no reason to think it won't grow. In particular Fintech. We took over 85% of EU fintech deals in 2019.
Hopefully longer term (mid) high tech industrial growth, through the promised fiscal invest.
Longer term, we were always due to win.
I too work in financial services, but I've learned to respond to questions in ways that everyone can understand, not just technical bods.
If you genuinely believe that UK growth (near term) will be from service industry growth - you say fintech, this article disagrees with you:
https://www.businessinsider.com/uk-fintech-funding...
maz8062 said:
I notice that you always respond to questions in an overly technical way. Nothing that you've written above makes sense to everyday laypeople. if you have to answer a simple question in a complicated manner, you're either willy-waving, or trying to use bluster in your response. I suspect it is the latter - but each to their own.
I too work in financial services, but I've learned to respond to questions in ways that everyone can understand, not just technical bods.
If you genuinely believe that UK growth (near term) will be from service industry growth - you say fintech, this article disagrees with you:
https://www.businessinsider.com/uk-fintech-funding...
And how is that technical? Just admit YOU are out of your depth. That was the most simple answer ever, you don't like it. Grow up with the small boy insults. I've made it more than simple by using price of beer in Malia to describe FX, you want Janet and John???.... Someone claims to have beaten and de-risked Brexit, but doesn't understand the sectors in the FTSE Please, you just mugged yourself off (and I already called the sycophant echo chamber would jump to the defence to deflect the ignorance - you are piling it on).I too work in financial services, but I've learned to respond to questions in ways that everyone can understand, not just technical bods.
If you genuinely believe that UK growth (near term) will be from service industry growth - you say fintech, this article disagrees with you:
https://www.businessinsider.com/uk-fintech-funding...
The problem is people like you have to tried to dumb down the worlds most complex question into simplistic terms its not.
As for fintech raises. You do know what happened @ the end of Q1 2020?
Its rhetorical, probably difficult for you to answer. Stop conflating Covid and Brexit. The covid whiny threads are elsewhere.
Edited by stongle on Tuesday 20th October 18:02
Digga said:
SpeckledJim said:
I reckon the deal is pretty much done, and they're now choreographing the best way for each to enable the other to climb down with as much remaining credibility as possible.
Stranger things have happened. In the end, it was always going to be;
a.) last minute, and
b.) a fudge of some description
Life is seldom perfect.
maz8062 said:
stongle said:
maz8062 said:
The question that you replied to was where was the UK's future growth going to come from? I'm not sure the world outside of the EU helps in narrowing that down.
Its an irrelevant question in the context of Rockin dying. He's trying to deflect his lack of knowledge whilst previously claiming the greatest trade since Jordan Belfort fked Steve Madden.Oh, and the answer (near term) will be service industry growth. Since the EC already capitulated there (finance infratsructure) no reason to think it won't grow. In particular Fintech. We took over 85% of EU fintech deals in 2019.
Hopefully longer term (mid) high tech industrial growth, through the promised fiscal invest.
Longer term, we were always due to win.
I too work in financial services, but I've learned to respond to questions in ways that everyone can understand, not just technical bods.
If you genuinely believe that UK growth (near term) will be from service industry growth - you say fintech, this article disagrees with you:
https://www.businessinsider.com/uk-fintech-funding...
your link said:
UK fintech funding declined for the first half of 2020 by 39% compared with the same period in 2019.
Could be worse... my link said:
Yet the start of 2020 saw a 45% funding drop in Europe
https://sifted.eu/articles/european-fintech-fundin...Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff