How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 15)

[Mortarboard]

jsf said:

gruffalo said:

amgmcqueen said:

Mortarboard said:

My opinion matters for nothing.

You're finally talking sense.

Harsh but oh so true!!!

Probably not to be repeated.

Oh, the irony...............

Yours carries the same weight.

M.

[PushedDover]

Any news on anything ?

[anonymous-user]

https://mobile.twitter.com/tradegovuk/status/13213...

Some good news
Soy sauce (from Japan) will not have tariffs
(a strange boast as WTO/Australia terms are wonderful ?)
Living the dream

[Fittster]

Jimboka said:

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Soy sauce (from Japan) will not have tariffs

Soy sauce (from Japan) is already tariff free.

[anonymous-user]

Fittster said:

Soy sauce (from Japan) is already tariff free.

Most of it sold in the UK is made in Holland.

I suppose that could change if no deal.

[anonymous-user]

PushedDover said:

Any news on anything ?

The wine is in the decanter breathing in Brussels.

[Fittster]

jsf said:

Fittster said:

Soy sauce (from Japan) is already tariff free.

Most of it sold in the UK is made in Holland.

I suppose that could change if no deal.

https://twitter.com/tradegovuk/status/1321383581101469696

The lesson from this story is that a no deal leads to higher prices for consumers.

[speedy_thrills]

PushedDover said:

Any news on anything ?

Judging by prior tactics (Greece etc.) the EU will typically wait until the 13th hour and offer only an interim deal that allows the party trying to negotiate to save face temporarily but ultimately commits them to renegotiation in weakened future position. I’d be concerned if they agreed this early that the UK has blinked and conceded early without the best terms.

A successful negotiation relies on the competency and experience of the negotiators and an ability to understand exactly what each side requires. The EU understand that the PM needs to have been seen to have “won” to the public to preserve his career and the British know that ultimately the relative balance of trade favors the EU in setting terms. Everyone can get the headline they foremost want but we must wait.

[anonymous-user]

Fittster said:

https://twitter.com/tradegovuk/status/132138358110...

The lesson from this story is that a no deal leads to higher prices for consumers.

Not if you can source elsewhere under equivalent or better terms.

[FiF]

jsf said:

Fittster said:

https://twitter.com/tradegovuk/status/132138358110...

The lesson from this story is that a no deal leads to higher prices for consumers.

Not if you can source elsewhere under equivalent or better terms.

Hang on, joining the common market meant higher prices, I remember it well.
Now leaving what CM has morphed into means higher prices again. Apparently, at least according to some.
Market prices will rule surely.

[Helicopter123]

don'tbesilly said:

Bloomberg is reporting positive news from the UK-EU future relationship discussion this afternoon as word leaks the two sides have begun working on the text of an agreement on level playing field issues, and are close to finalising a joint document covering state aid. It’s also reported both sides are closer to deciding essential aspects of how any deal will be enforced.

The soundings bode well for Thursday when negotiations will move to Brussels where attempts will be made to narrow the remaining difference sufficiently by November the 3rd when the ball will be thrown back to Boris and von der Leyen to finalise a final compromise. Macron yet to budge on fishing…

https://order-order.com/2020/10/28/negotiating-pro...

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-10-28...

Yes, as I posted yesterday, some significant concessions made by the UK is the we rumour coming out of Ireland. Let’s hope a deal can be done.

[loafer123]

Helicopter123 said:

Yes, as I posted yesterday, some significant concessions made by the UK is the we rumour coming out of Ireland. Let’s hope a deal can be done.

As you well know, that isn’t what those articles say.

I have no doubt both sides are compromising, which is how negotiations work.

What is interesting is that the Bloomberg article is framing the fishing issue as continued access to U.K. fishing grounds, rather than unchanged rights. Given we have already offered continued access, but with dynamic quotas, it appears the EU is preparing to move.

[chrispmartha]

Jimboka said:

https://mobile.twitter.com/tradegovuk/status/13213...

Some good news
Soy sauce (from Japan) will not have tariffs
(a strange boast as WTO/Australia terms are wonderful ?)
Living the dream

Whichever side of the brexit debate you’re on, you’ve got to admit those tweets are quite stupid.

Edited by chrispmartha on Thursday 29th October 08:00

[don'tbesilly]

Helicopter123 said:

don'tbesilly said:

Bloomberg is reporting positive news from the UK-EU future relationship discussion this afternoon as word leaks the two sides have begun working on the text of an agreement on level playing field issues, and are close to finalising a joint document covering state aid. It’s also reported both sides are closer to deciding essential aspects of how any deal will be enforced.

The soundings bode well for Thursday when negotiations will move to Brussels where attempts will be made to narrow the remaining difference sufficiently by November the 3rd when the ball will be thrown back to Boris and von der Leyen to finalise a final compromise. Macron yet to budge on fishing…

https://order-order.com/2020/10/28/negotiating-pro...

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-10-28...

Yes, as I posted yesterday, some significant concessions made by the UK is the we rumour coming out of Ireland. Let’s hope a deal can be done.

Did this rumour you heard emanate from the same source who told you that Gove was going to resign amid the leadership contest last summer when there was the furore over Gove's drug taking shenanigans?

How did that work out? Where is Gove now?

What specific significant concessions are being/will be made by the UK negotiating team, and in what areas are those concessions being made?

[B'stard Child]

don'tbesilly said:

Did this rumour you heard emanate from the same source who told you that Gove was going to resign amid the leadership contest last summer when there was the furore over Gove's drug taking shenanigans?

How did that work out? Where is Gove now?

What specific significant concessions are being/will be made by the UK negotiating team, and in what areas are those concessions being made?

Don’t Feed............

[mike9009]

chrispmartha said:

Jimboka said:

https://mobile.twitter.com/tradegovuk/status/13213...

Some good news
Soy sauce (from Japan) will not have tariffs
(a strange boast as WTO/Australia terms are wonderful ?)
Living the dream

Whichever side of the brexit debate you’re on, you’ve got to admit those tweets are quite stupid.

Surely some civil servant is taking the piss out of Brexiteers?

[gruffalo]

mike9009 said:

chrispmartha said:

Jimboka said:

https://mobile.twitter.com/tradegovuk/status/13213...

Some good news
Soy sauce (from Japan) will not have tariffs
(a strange boast as WTO/Australia terms are wonderful ?)
Living the dream

Whichever side of the brexit debate you’re on, you’ve got to admit those tweets are quite stupid.

Surely some civil servant is taking the piss out of Brexiteers?

Apparently Kikkoman is the top brand of soy sauce and it is indeed Japanese.

[Sway]

gruffalo said:

mike9009 said:

chrispmartha said:

Jimboka said:

https://mobile.twitter.com/tradegovuk/status/13213...

Some good news
Soy sauce (from Japan) will not have tariffs
(a strange boast as WTO/Australia terms are wonderful ?)
Living the dream

Whichever side of the brexit debate you’re on, you’ve got to admit those tweets are quite stupid.

Surely some civil servant is taking the piss out of Brexiteers?

Apparently Kikkoman is the top brand of soy sauce and it is indeed Japanese.

Even if it is, if we'd have remained it would be zero tariffed.

It is a daft tweet or two.

[chrispmartha]

gruffalo said:

mike9009 said:

chrispmartha said:

Jimboka said:

https://mobile.twitter.com/tradegovuk/status/13213...

Some good news
Soy sauce (from Japan) will not have tariffs
(a strange boast as WTO/Australia terms are wonderful ?)
Living the dream

Whichever side of the brexit debate you’re on, you’ve got to admit those tweets are quite stupid.

Surely some civil servant is taking the piss out of Brexiteers?

Apparently Kikkoman is the top brand of soy sauce and it is indeed Japanese.

2 things, it won't be 'cheaper' on January 1st, secondly the Kikkomen Soy Sauce we buy is made in the Netherlands.

[silentbrown]

gruffalo said:

Apparently Kikkoman is the top brand of soy sauce and it is indeed Japanese.

Japanese brand, but produced in the Netherlands, USA, Singapore, Japan,etc...