Teacher decapitated in Paris by enraged parent.

Teacher decapitated in Paris by enraged parent.

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jakesmith

9,461 posts

172 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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Kent Border Kenny said:
coolg said:
But without religion they wouldn't have been decapitated. When you are told from an early age that God is this and that, combined with Blasphemy is a sin punishable by death, i wager without religion he wouldn't have carried this out.
If it's not religion that is driving people to carry out these sort of attacks, then why is it always the muslims doing it?

I've lost count of how many work sweepstakes I've lost on the religious affiliations of the next attacker who implies that they are diong it for religious reasons. Have you any idea how long it is since a Methodist blew up a tube train?
If religion is the problem, where are the attacks from other religions? The problem isn’t religion per se, or one religion even. It’s a small number of murderous people who use one religion as their excuse to exercise their intolerant views and violent tendencies.

Kent Border Kenny

2,219 posts

61 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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jakesmith said:
If religion is the problem, where are the attacks from other religions? The problem isn’t religion per se, or one religion even. It’s a small number of murderous people who use one religion as their excuse to exercise their intolerant views and violent tendencies.
But why is it predominantly that one religion?

It makes no sense, given the relative frequencies, to pretend that there’s not something about Islam or its adherents that makes these sort of attacks so much more likely.

Getragdogleg

8,787 posts

184 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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Kent Border Kenny said:
jakesmith said:
If religion is the problem, where are the attacks from other religions? The problem isn’t religion per se, or one religion even. It’s a small number of murderous people who use one religion as their excuse to exercise their intolerant views and violent tendencies.
But why is it predominantly that one religion?

It makes no sense, given the relative frequencies, to pretend that there’s not something about Islam or its adherents that makes these sort of attacks so much more likely.
An evolved genetic pre-disposition toward violence because of a history of unleavened bread ?



My crystal ball says that the study of gut bacteria health and type is going to be the next huge thing in the science of behaviour.

Tom Logan

3,235 posts

126 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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Getragdogleg said:
An evolved genetic pre-disposition toward violence because of a history of unleavened bread ?



My crystal ball says that the study of gut bacteria health and type is going to be the next huge thing in the science of behaviour.
https://www.gvtc.co.uk/articles/article013.html


coolg

650 posts

47 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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Kent Border Kenny said:
coolg said:
But without religion they wouldn't have been decapitated. When you are told from an early age that God is this and that, combined with Blasphemy is a sin punishable by death, i wager without religion he wouldn't have carried this out.
If it's not religion that is driving people to carry out these sort of attacks, then why is it always the muslims doing it?

I've lost count of how many work sweepstakes I've lost on the religious affiliations of the next attacker who implies that they are diong it for religious reasons. Have you any idea how long it is since a Methodist blew up a tube train?
Either all the violent individuals are attracted to islam as opposed to other religions because Islam is more violent / has more violent verses

or

The teaching of islam is more violent and therefore its followers who chose to act on the violent parts when they feel instructed by their god ?



coolg

650 posts

47 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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jakesmith said:
If religion is the problem, where are the attacks from other religions? The problem isn’t religion per se, or one religion even. It’s a small number of murderous people who use one religion as their excuse to exercise their intolerant views and violent tendencies.
Exactly it is only one religion.

Those intolerant views you refer to such as;

Death for apostasy
Death for homosexuals - 11 countries have it punishable by death and they are all muslim
Death for Blasphemy - In theory it is punishable by death in Pakistan, which is more than a small number of people and when you look at the hurrah around Asia Bibbi it is a big issue to them. Imran Khan has even called for tougher laws at a a global level.

They are all in their scriptures.

Somebody will no doubt be along with what about what about, but as mentioned above you would almost always win the sweep stake calling the terrorist attack Muslim.

Munter

31,319 posts

242 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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Bit depressing for the future of mankind looking at the number of nutters supporting #boycottfrance on twitter.
https://twitter.com/search?q=%23boycottfrance&...

Also why didn't Macron just shrug his shoulders and go "Fair enough. Deny yourselves our excellent products. That's your choice. Just like freedom is our choice. Good luck to you. Have a good day now."

coolg

650 posts

47 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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Munter said:
Bit depressing for the future of mankind looking at the number of nutters supporting #boycottfrance on twitter.
https://twitter.com/search?q=%23boycottfrance&...

Also why didn't Macron just shrug his shoulders and go "Fair enough. Deny yourselves our excellent products. That's your choice. Just like freedom is our choice. Good luck to you. Have a good day now."
Imagine if all Muslims left France....

jakesmith

9,461 posts

172 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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coolg said:
jakesmith said:
If religion is the problem, where are the attacks from other religions? The problem isn’t religion per se, or one religion even. It’s a small number of murderous people who use one religion as their excuse to exercise their intolerant views and violent tendencies.
Exactly it is only one religion.

Those intolerant views you refer to such as;

Death for apostasy
Death for homosexuals - 11 countries have it punishable by death and they are all muslim
Death for Blasphemy - In theory it is punishable by death in Pakistan, which is more than a small number of people and when you look at the hurrah around Asia Bibbi it is a big issue to them. Imran Khan has even called for tougher laws at a a global level.

They are all in their scriptures.

Somebody will no doubt be along with what about what about, but as mentioned above you would almost always win the sweep stake calling the terrorist attack Muslim.
The Old Testament is full of that vengeful bigoted st as well but contemporary Jews don’t use it as a call for militancy. What’s the difference? It’s not religion, it must be cultural.

coffeebreath

181 posts

94 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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Interesting and relevant article from the day before the beheading:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshi...

"Prison staff guarding extremist offenders are under "constant threat" from inmates who intend to "behead a guard and stream it online", the Prison Officers' Association (POA) said."

Troubleatmill

10,210 posts

160 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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All the nutters care about is pleasing their God.

So - let's ensure their God never accepts and loves them and accepts them into heaven

I still think lining the bodies with pig skin, a pigs cock in their mouths and arse, hermetically sealed and encased in concrete and lead - buried in an unknown location - so they can never be found and freed into heaven is the only way to deal with this stuff.



coolg

650 posts

47 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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jakesmith said:
The Old Testament is full of that vengeful bigoted st as well but contemporary Jews don’t use it as a call for militancy. What’s the difference? It’s not religion, it must be cultural.
Cultural in a selection of unconnected countries by unconnected groups of people only linked by religion ??

France England Germany Pakistan Algeria Morocco Holland Afghanistan

We see issues in our Pakistani community
Holland in their morocan
France their Algerian
German all the Muslims countries they took people from.

They don’t all come from the same culture the only link is the religion



coolg

650 posts

47 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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coffeebreath said:
Interesting and relevant article from the day before the beheading:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshi...

"Prison staff guarding extremist offenders are under "constant threat" from inmates who intend to "behead a guard and stream it online", the Prison Officers' Association (POA) said."
The individuals weren’t french and they weren’t of Chechnyan descent, so no cultural link, the only link must be their religion ...

jakesmith

9,461 posts

172 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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coolg said:
jakesmith said:
The Old Testament is full of that vengeful bigoted st as well but contemporary Jews don’t use it as a call for militancy. What’s the difference? It’s not religion, it must be cultural.
Cultural in a selection of unconnected countries by unconnected groups of people only linked by religion ??

France England Germany Pakistan Algeria Morocco Holland Afghanistan

We see issues in our Pakistani community
Holland in their morocan
France their Algerian
German all the Muslims countries they took people from.

They don’t all come from the same culture the only link is the religion
Yeah you're actually right, better ban it then.

coolg

650 posts

47 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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jakesmith said:
Yeah you're actually right, better ban it then.
Now you’re talking !!

Has macron done the right thing ? Maybe, there needs To be a better understanding of the issues and conflicts between Islam and the west, rather than ignoring them and hoping they will go away.


Troubleatmill

10,210 posts

160 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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coolg said:
jakesmith said:
Yeah you're actually right, better ban it then.
Now you’re talking !!

Has macron done the right thing ? Maybe, there needs To be a better understanding of the issues and conflicts between Islam and the west, rather than ignoring them and hoping they will go away.
Or - Shoot to kill, before the body is cold - Bacon time.
Not meeting Allah should have a serious drop in incidents.

It is the only thing they fear.

jakesmith

9,461 posts

172 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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Just to be clear I was being sarcastic and I don't think attempting to ban a religion is a good solution
Some of the responses on here are beyond the pale

coolg

650 posts

47 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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jakesmith said:
Just to be clear I was being sarcastic and I don't think attempting to ban a religion is a good solution
Some of the responses on here are beyond the pale
I understood that

stitched

3,813 posts

174 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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jakesmith said:
Just to be clear I was being sarcastic and I don't think attempting to ban a religion is a good solution
Some of the responses on here are beyond the pale
Personally I'd ban them all.

Noodle1982

2,103 posts

107 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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stitched said:
jakesmith said:
Just to be clear I was being sarcastic and I don't think attempting to ban a religion is a good solution
Some of the responses on here are beyond the pale
Personally I'd ban them all.
Same here.