Teacher decapitated in Paris by enraged parent.

[skyrover]

20,000 people likely died accidentally. 100 people were murdered.

The difference is intent.

[BMW A6]

heebeegeetee said:

Gromm said:

Je suis Charlie

Je ne suis pas Charlie. I also think religion is bat st crazy but I really do not like the desire to offend so much. It’s more hate speech than free speech imo.

Muslims won't have won and the values of freedom of speech/ expression will remain, if Charlie Hebdo et al would not be so stubborn.

Their stance amounts to incitement of hatred. Just constantly stoking fires.

Muslims have made it clear: they find these images offensive.

As for terrorists of any hue: the death penalty requires reinstating.

[A Winner Is You]

BMW A6 said:

heebeegeetee said:

Gromm said:

Je suis Charlie

Je ne suis pas Charlie. I also think religion is bat st crazy but I really do not like the desire to offend so much. It’s more hate speech than free speech imo.

Muslims won't have won and the values of freedom of speech/ expression will remain, if Charlie Hebdo et al would not be so stubborn.

Their stance amounts to incitement of hatred. Just constantly stoking fires.

Muslims have made it clear: they find these images offensive.

As for terrorists of any hue: the death penalty requires reinstating.

Should people be free to post images of Mohammed?

[gazza285]

BMW A6 said:

Muslims won't have won and the values of freedom of speech/ expression will remain, if Charlie Hebdo et al would not be so stubborn.

Their stance amounts to incitement of hatred. Just constantly stoking fires.

Muslims have made it clear: they find these images offensive.

As for terrorists of any hue: the death penalty requires reinstating.

Some muslims have made it clear, most haven't commented at all.

[166 MM Barchetta]

BMW A6 said:

Muslims have made it clear: they find these images offensive.

Ok, and if a similar style of drawing was made about the image of Christ would we have had, in this modern world, a group of armed catholics going on the rampage in Paris and then yesterday murdering a teacher........nope.....there’s the problem....
The magazine, in my opinion, wasn’t being stubborn, it had every right to publish and an equal right to be ignored.

[166 MM Barchetta]

gazza285 said:

Are motor vehicles also incompatible? Europe has on average less than 100 deaths a year from terrorism, yet over 20,000 people lost their lives in vehicle accidents. The threat from radicalised muslim terrorism is miniscule.

You really are a quite disgusting individual.

[gazza285]

166 MM Barchetta said:

gazza285 said:

Are motor vehicles also incompatible? Europe has on average less than 100 deaths a year from terrorism, yet over 20,000 people lost their lives in vehicle accidents. The threat from radicalised muslim terrorism is miniscule.

You really are a quite disgusting individual.

Oh, the chagrin!

I am comfortable with my life choices, thank you.

Now would you care to explain why you feel that way?

[BMW A6]

A Winner Is You said:

BMW A6 said:

heebeegeetee said:

Gromm said:

Je suis Charlie

Je ne suis pas Charlie. I also think religion is bat st crazy but I really do not like the desire to offend so much. It’s more hate speech than free speech imo.

Muslims won't have won and the values of freedom of speech/ expression will remain, if Charlie Hebdo et al would not be so stubborn.

Their stance amounts to incitement of hatred. Just constantly stoking fires.

Muslims have made it clear: they find these images offensive.

As for terrorists of any hue: the death penalty requires reinstating.

Should people be free to post images of Mohammed?

If the intent is to incite hatred and violence, then no, they shouldn't do it.

Would you stick your head into a hornet' s nest?

[anonymous-user]

JagLover said:

Sam.M said:

Grim.

Meanwhile Macron is giving speeches about the dangers of a growing Islamist counterculture in France.

This’ll get worse before it gets better.

Bit late now to be warning about it.

Some religions and ideologies are simply incompatible with the western way of life. The only hope for many western European countries is that their new arrivals will adopt the widespread atheism of their new home.

Late sure, though I am glad he is not afraid to highlight the problem.

I think the hope for atheism is a hope in vain, the idea that people moving to the west suddenly drop all of the ideas of their former culture and religion at the borders is laughable kum-by-ah nonsense.

[A Winner Is You]

BMW A6 said:

If the intent is to incite hatred and violence, then no, they shouldn't do it.

Would you stick your head into a hornet' s nest?

In which case the extremists win, and we have blasphemy laws.

[jamoor]

BMW A6 said:

If the intent is to incite hatred and violence, then no, they shouldn't do it.

Would you stick your head into a hornet' s nest?

Yeah this is true, one would be nuts to walk into a leading kick boxing club and start picking fights on people, it won’t end well. Nothing stopping you from doing so however

[anonymous-user]

BMW A6 said:

heebeegeetee said:

Gromm said:

Je suis Charlie

Je ne suis pas Charlie. I also think religion is bat st crazy but I really do not like the desire to offend so much. It’s more hate speech than free speech imo.

Muslims won't have won and the values of freedom of speech/ expression will remain, if Charlie Hebdo et al would not be so stubborn.

Their stance amounts to incitement of hatred. Just constantly stoking fires.

Muslims have made it clear: they find these images offensive.

Great. So you’d be happy to capitulate to blasphemy laws.

Sod that.

Vive la France

Je suis Charlie

Best regards

A vaguely beige ex-Muslim

[gazza285]

A Winner Is You said:

BMW A6 said:

If the intent is to incite hatred and violence, then no, they shouldn't do it.

Would you stick your head into a hornet' s nest?

In which case the extremists win, and we have blasphemy laws.

Not really, inciting hatred has nothing to do with blasphemy.

[Tresco]

BMW A6 said:

heebeegeetee said:

Gromm said:

Je suis Charlie

Je ne suis pas Charlie. I also think religion is bat st crazy but I really do not like the desire to offend so much. It’s more hate speech than free speech imo.

Muslims won't have won and the values of freedom of speech/ expression will remain, if Charlie Hebdo et al would not be so stubborn.

Their stance amounts to incitement of hatred. Just constantly stoking fires.

Muslims have made it clear: they find these images offensive.

As for terrorists of any hue: the death penalty requires reinstating.

Yes, we should all cower away from offending Muslims.

In Europe we are allowed to offend and to be offended, it's a freedom we cherish. Every other religion is fair game for satire but not, according to you, Islam. Why should they be treated differently?

We are importing into Europe people whose religious beliefs are incompatible with Western life but still they are welcomed.

As for the other poster extolling his Muslim neighbours, I'm sure they're lovely people but they will no doubt have some sympathy for the motivation of the dead terrorist - Muslim Council of Britain will remain silent as usual although I note their latest tweet is to promote their Islam & racial justice conference.

The consequences of the Islamification of Europe.

[anonymous-user]

gazza285 said:

Not really, inciting hatred has nothing to do with blasphemy.

It’s a defacto blasphemy law.

[Roon205]

Defend away until it’s yourself or a loved one stabbed/blown up or decapitated or worse.

[Dagnir]

jdw100 said:

DAVEVO9 said:

BrundanBianchi said:

Anyone who subscribes to the teachings of someone who would be classified as a paedophile, in the modern world, who said he flew round the moon on a magic donkey, really needs to take a long hard look at themselves.

A classic case of mental illness

It isn’t, look up mental illness. This is not a mass psychosis.

Where do your beliefs or view of they world come from? Parents, society, culture.

I’m sure that the majority of people could say that those of us with no god - well they must be mentally ill.

Or are you genuinely suggesting that a very high proportion of the world’s population are actually mentally ill?

That’s just a bigoted as saying that all people that don’t have a god are mentally ill.

Surely you know someone that has religious beliefs or other strong beliefs - are they mentally ill? A family member, a work colleague, that chap who served you a coffee this morning?

Do you have belief that your way of thinking is absolutely correct?

I have some quite spirited (ha ha) debates with people of different faiths -they are mentally ill?

I think they are wrong, they think I’m wrong.....

Ive met people who are convinced that crystal healing is real, against all evidence Chinese Medicine, climate change denying......and may other things that, in my option, do not conform to actual reality. Maybe you don’t agree with my dismissal of one or more things on that list - if you do disagree you are clearly mentally ill.

Hate the ideas, not the person.

Other instances of repeated, self-inflicted delusions involving imaginary things that aren't real, are often categorised as mental illness.

A crude example being that if you went to the doctor every week and insisted you could see a rainbow dog that talks to you, he would conclude that something is wrong with your head.

Religion gets a free pass because of its history and how intertwined it has been with our cultures for so long but yes, in 2020 if you believe all the ridiculous nonsense of a religion, you are in some way, mentally challenged.

[Dromedary66]

Nothing surprises me from a cult that mandates the mutilation of baby penises.

[Troubleatmill]

BMW A6 said:

Muslims won't have won and the values of freedom of speech/ expression will remain, if Charlie Hebdo et al would not be so stubborn.

Their stance amounts to incitement of hatred. Just constantly stoking fires.

Muslims have made it clear: they find these images offensive.

As for terrorists of any hue: the death penalty requires reinstating.

Any Muslim that gets offended - that it is their problem.
They can deal with it in the following ways.
1. Ignore it
2. Have a private cry about it
3. Pray to their Sky Fairy to punish the infidel in the afterlife.
4. Move to a country where everybody just loves Mo more than their own kids.


There is a fantastic online cartoon called Jesusandmo ( google it )
The best part that Mo is actually portrayed by a body double - so even the most delicate sensibilities of Muslims can enjoy it.
This current issue is a gem.

[gazza285]

Sam.M said:

gazza285 said:

Not really, inciting hatred has nothing to do with blasphemy.

It’s a defacto blasphemy law.

If you are doing it to poke fun, then it would be considered blasphemy to some of the muslim community.

If you are doing it to incite hatred and dislike, which looking at the number of "all muslims are bad" posts on this thread as a consequence it appears to be succeeding, then it has nothing to do with blasphemy.