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dasigty

Original Poster:

587 posts

81 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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This is what happens when ill informed people latch on to the spoon fed nonsense of the MSM.

An "Anon" is an individual, "Q" is a board (One of many) where links are posted up to be discussed.

The number one rule of that board is "Do your own research".

There is not now, or ever has been a qanon except in the many attacks by the MSM.

amusingduck

9,396 posts

136 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Countdown said:
I'm a simple bloke and that's perhaps why I can't see the issue. If i want to go to a Pub and 'Spoons is the only one available I'll make sure I do my damndest not to get banned. Their gaff, their rules. In a way it's the same as having a driving license and ending up banned for breaching various driving laws.
I think it'd be a bit more like the roads being a privately owned monopoly, where your ability to drive can be effectively removed despite not having broken any laws, and having no route to redress.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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dasigty said:
This is what happens when ill informed people latch on to the spoon fed nonsense of the MSM.

An "Anon" is an individual, "Q" is a board (One of many) where links are posted up to be discussed.

The number one rule of that board is "Do your own research".

There is not now, or ever has been a qanon except in the many attacks by the MSM.
dO yOuR oWn ReSeArCh

The warcry of the internet conspiracist.

So here's the thing dashiggity, if what you were presenting was concrete and self evidently true, there'd be no reason for people to dO tHeIr OwN rEsEaRcH because they'd be persuaded.

Do your own research is one of those things that plays right into the Trump/Bannon(also Putin/Surkov btw) media strategy of filling the interwebs with sh-te.

People get so caught up mopping up the sh-te they can't find the thread of reality.

dasigty

Original Poster:

587 posts

81 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Byker28i said:
dasigty said:
Byker28i said:
Some of the emails are real, hacked from his iCloud account and added to give authenticy to the faked ones. trumps DNI has said it's not Russian disinformation, but many other people have said it is, including those beneath the DNI and the investigation is ongoing.

Remember Ratcliffe has been trying to assist trumps reelection by releasing extracts, snippets and documents taken out of context pertaining to the trump/russia investigation.

It's all timed to have the same effect as the Comey letter, but so far is falling flat, just like every other attempt team trump has made to manufacture dirt on Biden. Remember trump was impeached for hsi efforts to manufacture dirt.
trump also needs a distraction from the NY times reporting on his tax evasion and hidden chinese bank accounts, the Maxwell/Epstein testimony about to come out, the two court cases based on trumps sexual assault, the investigation into his business... etc
Evidence of any of the claims above ?
Evidence of yours? I mean I've posted the same links several times now,

Where do you get your info from? You make some amazing claims yet never back it up with any evidence. just what are the sources you are reading?
You made the claims now back them up ;0)

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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amusingduck said:
Countdown said:
I'm a simple bloke and that's perhaps why I can't see the issue. If i want to go to a Pub and 'Spoons is the only one available I'll make sure I do my damndest not to get banned. Their gaff, their rules. In a way it's the same as having a driving license and ending up banned for breaching various driving laws.
I think it'd be a bit more like the roads being a privately owned monopoly, where your ability to drive can be effectively removed despite not having broken any laws, and having no route to redress.
So the evil moustache twiddling council of evil is run by die hard libertarians?

Hmm, who knew?

dasigty

Original Poster:

587 posts

81 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Countdown said:
I'm a simple bloke and that's perhaps why I can't see the issue. If i want to go to a Pub and 'Spoons is the only one available I'll make sure I do my damndest not to get banned. Their gaff, their rules. In a way it's the same as having a driving license and ending up banned for breaching various driving laws.
How about if they had different rules depending on your choice of politics ?

Countdown

39,896 posts

196 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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amusingduck said:
Countdown said:
I'm a simple bloke and that's perhaps why I can't see the issue. If i want to go to a Pub and 'Spoons is the only one available I'll make sure I do my damndest not to get banned. Their gaff, their rules. In a way it's the same as having a driving license and ending up banned for breaching various driving laws.
I think it'd be a bit more like the roads being a privately owned monopoly, where your ability to drive can be effectively removed despite not having broken any laws, and having no route to redress.
Being barred randomly and for absolutely no reason - massively unfair in a democracy (par for the course in other countries)

Being barred for doing stuff 'Spoons have asked me not to do - their gaff, their rules

GroundEffect

13,836 posts

156 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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dasigty said:
This is what happens when ill informed people latch on to the spoon fed nonsense of the MSM.

An "Anon" is an individual, "Q" is a board (One of many) where links are posted up to be discussed.

The number one rule of that board is "Do your own research".

There is not now, or ever has been a qanon except in the many attacks by the MSM.
Are there approved sources of information? Can you please list some of them out so we can be educated properly?

Countdown

39,896 posts

196 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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dasigty said:
Countdown said:
I'm a simple bloke and that's perhaps why I can't see the issue. If i want to go to a Pub and 'Spoons is the only one available I'll make sure I do my damndest not to get banned. Their gaff, their rules. In a way it's the same as having a driving license and ending up banned for breaching various driving laws.
How about if they had different rules depending on your choice of politics ?
Tough.

Countdown

39,896 posts

196 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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dasigty said:
There is not now, or ever has been a qanon except in the many attacks by the MSM.
https://www.foxnews.com/category/us/terror/conspiracies-plots

Do you see all those references to QAnon.....?


amusingduck

9,396 posts

136 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Sam.M said:
So the evil moustache twiddling council of evil is run by die hard libertarians?

Hmm, who knew?


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dasigty

Original Poster:

587 posts

81 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Countdown said:
dasigty said:
There is not now, or ever has been a qanon except in the many attacks by the MSM.
https://www.foxnews.com/category/us/terror/conspiracies-plots

Do you see all those references to QAnon.....?
So referencing the MSM on a subject they made up shows what (Apart from your inability to comprehend) ?

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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amusingduck said:
Sam.M said:
So the evil moustache twiddling council of evil is run by die hard libertarians?

Hmm, who knew?


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anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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dasigty said:
Countdown said:
dasigty said:
There is not now, or ever has been a qanon except in the many attacks by the MSM.
https://www.foxnews.com/category/us/terror/conspiracies-plots

Do you see all those references to QAnon.....?
So referencing the MSM on a subject they made up shows what (Apart from your inability to comprehend) ?
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/stress-anxiety-depression/mental-health-helplines/

Not even joking.

Tallow

1,624 posts

161 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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dasigty said:
1) There has never been a qanon, it`s a MSM conspiracy theory.
Jeez, I'm not one to indulge in ad hominem attacks, but you're utterly bonkers, OP. Don't you think that the fact that pretty much everyone on this thread disagrees with you might perhaps be an indicator you're barking up the wrong tree?

Or it could be that we're all leftist, soy boy, lentil eating, Prius driving Bernie fans. Yes, that must be it. It's the only logical explanation when you think about it

DanL

6,215 posts

265 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Here’s the thing about doing your own research (which I’m sure a number of posters on this thread will disagree with)...

What is research?

Research is:
- speaking to the primary sources.
- visiting archives and libraries.
- gathering information.
- etc.

Research is not:
- visiting websites to read what someone else has written.

Research is hard, takes time, and often needs expert knowledge to understand what you’re researching - it’s a full time job for some journalists, for example. Visiting websites and deciding you like what they’ve written is not research. You have no idea whether the person writing knows what they’re talking about or not. You have no idea whether the name at the top of the page is the person who wrote it, even.

People like to buy into conspiracy theories - they can read around the subject on various web sites, believe they’ve “researched” it, and feel smart. That’s nice for them, but it’s not research. It’s believing what someone’s told you, often followed by deriding someone else for believing what someone’s told them, simply because the source is “mainstream” and so somehow wrong...

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Tallow said:
Or it could be that we're all leftist, soy boy, lentil eating, Prius driving Bernie fans. Yes, that must be it. It's the only logical explanation when you think about it
I mean... I eat lentils so maybe he does have a point.

eharding

13,711 posts

284 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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dasigty said:
Countdown said:
dasigty said:
There is not now, or ever has been a qanon except in the many attacks by the MSM.
https://www.foxnews.com/category/us/terror/conspiracies-plots

Do you see all those references to QAnon.....?
So referencing the MSM on a subject they made up shows what (Apart from your inability to comprehend) ?
So come on then Felix, let's start with your own words shall we?

What was the "movement" you were referring to in your 8chan wibble?

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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DanL said:
Here’s the thing about doing your own research (which I’m sure a number of posters on this thread will disagree with)...

What is research?

Research is:
- speaking to the primary sources.
- visiting archives and libraries.
- gathering information.
- etc.

Research is not:
- visiting websites to read what someone else has written.

Research is hard, takes time, and often needs expert knowledge to understand what you’re researching - it’s a full time job for some journalists, for example. Visiting websites and deciding you like what they’ve written is not research. You have no idea whether the person writing knows what they’re talking about or not. You have no idea whether the name at the top of the page is the person who wrote it, even.

People like to buy into conspiracy theories - they can read around the subject on various web sites, believe they’ve “researched” it, and feel smart. That’s nice for them, but it’s not research. It’s believing what someone’s told you, often followed by deriding someone else for believing what someone’s told them, simply because the source is “mainstream” and so somehow wrong...
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paulguitar

23,432 posts

113 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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DanL said:
Here’s the thing about doing your own research (which I’m sure a number of posters on this thread will disagree with)...

What is research?

Research is:
- speaking to the primary sources.
- visiting archives and libraries.
- gathering information.
- etc.

Research is not:
- visiting websites to read what someone else has written.

Research is hard, takes time, and often needs expert knowledge to understand what you’re researching - it’s a full time job for some journalists, for example. Visiting websites and deciding you like what they’ve written is not research. You have no idea whether the person writing knows what they’re talking about or not. You have no idea whether the name at the top of the page is the person who wrote it, even.

People like to buy into conspiracy theories - they can read around the subject on various web sites, believe they’ve “researched” it, and feel smart. That’s nice for them, but it’s not research. It’s believing what someone’s told you, often followed by deriding someone else for believing what someone’s told them, simply because the source is “mainstream” and so somehow wrong...
Excellent post.