Angela Rayner calls Tory MP "Scum"
Discussion
Red 4 said:
Wombat3 said:
As a result she lacks empathy and much in the way of reasoning skills or critical thinking. She is plainly incapable of anytthing close to an extended logical thought process.
About the most unsuitable person for high office that I can think of. Heaven help us if she gets near it.
Have you ever listened to Priti Patel ? I appreciate the comparison is a sort of who is the thickest here ? But my money is on Patel.About the most unsuitable person for high office that I can think of. Heaven help us if she gets near it.
It's actually quite scary that someone so obviously unsuitable could hold the position of Home Secretary.
Legacywr said:
Red 4 said:
Wombat3 said:
As a result she lacks empathy and much in the way of reasoning skills or critical thinking. She is plainly incapable of anytthing close to an extended logical thought process.
About the most unsuitable person for high office that I can think of. Heaven help us if she gets near it.
Have you ever listened to Priti Patel ? I appreciate the comparison is a sort of who is the thickest here ? But my money is on Patel.About the most unsuitable person for high office that I can think of. Heaven help us if she gets near it.
It's actually quite scary that someone so obviously unsuitable could hold the position of Home Secretary.
That's a fair point and I see we are now playing who is the s
ttest Top Trumps.Hardly a glowing endorsement of the quality of British politicians.
Patel though - "This person has a history of counter terrorism offences". "We will provide greater support for the victims of counter terrorism". She kept saying it over and over. She is an idiot and this is The Home Secretary !
She doesn't do numbers (or reading) very well either. We are doomed.
Red 4 said:
Legacywr said:
Red 4 said:
Wombat3 said:
As a result she lacks empathy and much in the way of reasoning skills or critical thinking. She is plainly incapable of anytthing close to an extended logical thought process.
About the most unsuitable person for high office that I can think of. Heaven help us if she gets near it.
Have you ever listened to Priti Patel ? I appreciate the comparison is a sort of who is the thickest here ? But my money is on Patel.About the most unsuitable person for high office that I can think of. Heaven help us if she gets near it.
It's actually quite scary that someone so obviously unsuitable could hold the position of Home Secretary.
That's a fair point and I see we are now playing who is the sttest Top Trumps.Hardly a glowing endorsement of the quality of British politicians.
Patel though - "This person has a history of counter terrorism offences". "We will provide greater support for the victims of counter terrorism". She kept saying it over and over. She is an idiot and this is The Home Secretary !
She doesn't do numbers (or reading) very well either. We are doomed.
Wombat3 said:
You lost it at "intellect".
She's plainly as thick as mince without either the ability or the application required to gain a single qualification of note.
As a result she lacks empathy and much in the way of reasoning skills or critical thinking. She is plainly incapable of anytthing close to an extended logical thought process.
About the most unsuitable person for high office that I can think of. Heaven help us if she gets near it.
I think Boris Johnson is also thick as mince, a posh accent and the odd bit of Latin doesn't impress me. In the past 2 weeks he's got confused with his own lock down rules and incorrectly states what financial support is available. He sounds like he's addled with drugs when publicly speaking and from the amount of gaffs he makes it's clear he doesn't understand what's going on around him. She's plainly as thick as mince without either the ability or the application required to gain a single qualification of note.
As a result she lacks empathy and much in the way of reasoning skills or critical thinking. She is plainly incapable of anytthing close to an extended logical thought process.
About the most unsuitable person for high office that I can think of. Heaven help us if she gets near it.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:Biggy Stardust said:
5 kids. I suspect that the number of GCEs or equivalent is higher as Eton tends to not mess about.
The number isn't known because when asked Johnson won't answer it.I'm not a big fan of Angela Rayner but whatever you might think of her she does seem to have grafted to get herself to where she is.
It's fine making comments about single mothers and GCSEs but the man in charge of our country won't admit how many kids he has and has had numerous affairs.
It's also widely reported he tried to get an injunction to stop the existence of one of his children being reported.
Point being that I'm struggling to see why so many people have an issue with Rayner being a single mother.
However, I have to agree with the above. All respect to her for hard graft and making her way to where she is now. It's important to have those diverse opinions at the forefront of Parliament to get a fairer representation.
leef44 said:
I am not one of her supporters, quite the opposite in fact.
However, I have to agree with the above. All respect to her for hard graft and making her way to where she is now. It's important to have those diverse opinions at the forefront of Parliament to get a fairer representation.
Quite.However, I have to agree with the above. All respect to her for hard graft and making her way to where she is now. It's important to have those diverse opinions at the forefront of Parliament to get a fairer representation.
I also think it's important to be able to disagree with many of those opinions but also still give some credit for the fact that she has got herself there.
With all respect to her from what I know of her background it would be easy for things to have turned out very different.
Instead she has a national voice (albeit not used too wisely this week
) and is deputy leader of a major political party.What more do people on NP&E think she should do?
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:leef44 said:
I am not one of her supporters, quite the opposite in fact.
However, I have to agree with the above. All respect to her for hard graft and making her way to where she is now. It's important to have those diverse opinions at the forefront of Parliament to get a fairer representation.
Quite.However, I have to agree with the above. All respect to her for hard graft and making her way to where she is now. It's important to have those diverse opinions at the forefront of Parliament to get a fairer representation.
I also think it's important to be able to disagree with many of those opinions but also still give some credit for the fact that she has got herself there.
With all respect to her from what I know of her background it would be easy for things to have turned out very different.
Instead she has a national voice (albeit not used too wisely this week
) and is deputy leader of a major political party.What more do people on NP&E think she should do?
That’s what I think she should do, calm down and respect others views and not shout scum at other democratically elected MPs like her due to differing views.
El stovey said:
I respect her achievements but disagree with some of her views and think she shouldn’t should scum at people with different views especially in the HOC.
That’s what I think she should do, calm down and respect others views and not shout scum at other democratically elected MPs like her due to differing views.
I agree with that.That’s what I think she should do, calm down and respect others views and not shout scum at other democratically elected MPs like her due to differing views.
But there's a certain irony that the thread seems to have been pruned to remove a whole bunch of sexual comments from people who think that's fine but are apparently outraged by the word "scum" and who like to moan about "feckless breeders" but also don't like to recognise someone achieving far more than you perhaps might have expected them to.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:El stovey said:
I respect her achievements but disagree with some of her views and think she shouldn’t should scum at people with different views especially in the HOC.
That’s what I think she should do, calm down and respect others views and not shout scum at other democratically elected MPs like her due to differing views.
I agree with that.That’s what I think she should do, calm down and respect others views and not shout scum at other democratically elected MPs like her due to differing views.
But there's a certain irony that the thread seems to have been pruned to remove a whole bunch of sexual comments from people who think that's fine but are apparently outraged by the word "scum" and who like to moan about "feckless breeders" but also don't like to recognise someone achieving far more than you perhaps might have expected them to.
RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
They hate her because she's Labour. If she were a Tory calling the opposite benches Communists they'd be lauding her plucky, self-made spirit and how Labour were being bed wetters about it for complaining.
I'm sure the word snowflake would make an appearance also...as woukd woke, lefty and Marxist with perhaps cabal thrown in for good measure. Not a huge fan or Rayner and she certainly should not have said it, but there are many people who reside in houses of glass choosing to throw ill advised rocks at the minute...Wills2 said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: I bet we can all guess who won't be going hungry thanks to taxpayer subsidies.
I presume the mini steak and kidney pudding is for when a mini sirloin by itself couldn't possibly be enough.
I think the Tories got this horribly wrong.I presume the mini steak and kidney pudding is for when a mini sirloin by itself couldn't possibly be enough.
The sight of MPs earning a publically funded 82k + exs whilst enjoying subsidised food at the tax payers expense, telling minimum wage workers who have been ordered by them to stop work that they won't fund £2-3 per meal over half term is piss poor.
But they couldn't use that alone to fund the scheme.
10,320,811 school age students in the UK vs 650 MPs.
I think they could fund it, a step towards more universal benefit. Level the playing field for the kids.
Probably bring some unexpected consequences. Fat kids having two dinners. One at school, one at home etc
TwigtheWonderkid said:
There was a great piece in The Guardian this week forensically examining the £120b in untendered for contracts handed out to firms during the Covid crisis so far, and how the directors of these firms link to various members of the cabinet and Dominic Cummings, either by family links or public school/previous work connections, plus the whole Dido Harding appointment, her role in the jockey club, the staging of the Cheltenham Festival this year, how that links to Matt Hancock as MP for Newmarket and how he benefits from the racing industry, etc. etc.etc.
Luckily, the govt have their own person whose job it is to ensure there is no corruption in govt. I guess it will be his job to ensure everything is above board, and I'm sure he will do that fairly and independently, despite having a slight connection to Dido Harding, in so much as he is her husband.
Scum......it's a compliment. I would have gone with "fking corrupt scum", personally.
Is that not to be expected? Luckily, the govt have their own person whose job it is to ensure there is no corruption in govt. I guess it will be his job to ensure everything is above board, and I'm sure he will do that fairly and independently, despite having a slight connection to Dido Harding, in so much as he is her husband.
Scum......it's a compliment. I would have gone with "f
king corrupt scum", personally. Surely we all go through life doing that?
I only ever recommend or use people I know, people I have worked with before, of friends of friends recommendations. That is why we end up with societal clicks, the same little circles looking after each other all the time.
I think that is a non story and if Labour were in power it would only be natural for Sir Kier to be seeking out contracts from his contacts, from people he knows, friends of friends.
It happens in all walks of life, from painters and decorators, to builders, to lawyers, to surgeons, to supplier, to drug suppliers, life tends to be made up of lots of circles that sort of cross over each other on the edge, but not as often as they should. Also the reason we end up with all male or all female board rooms or workforces, or all black or all Aisan or all white.
We had the same being published from right wing rags about Blair during his years. It was a non story then and a non story now.
Pan Pan Pan said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:Biggy Stardust said:
Fewer than GCEs?
Tell me the number then we can work it out.I've voted Conservative at General Elections all my life except for at the last one so if you think I have any time for Ken Livingstone you've backed the wrong horse.
Escy said:
Wombat3 said:
You lost it at "intellect".
She's plainly as thick as mince without either the ability or the application required to gain a single qualification of note.
As a result she lacks empathy and much in the way of reasoning skills or critical thinking. She is plainly incapable of anytthing close to an extended logical thought process.
About the most unsuitable person for high office that I can think of. Heaven help us if she gets near it.
I think Boris Johnson is also thick as mince, a posh accent and the odd bit of Latin doesn't impress me. In the past 2 weeks he's got confused with his own lock down rules and incorrectly states what financial support is available. He sounds like he's addled with drugs when publicly speaking and from the amount of gaffs he makes it's clear he doesn't understand what's going on around him. She's plainly as thick as mince without either the ability or the application required to gain a single qualification of note.
As a result she lacks empathy and much in the way of reasoning skills or critical thinking. She is plainly incapable of anytthing close to an extended logical thought process.
About the most unsuitable person for high office that I can think of. Heaven help us if she gets near it.
No one believes the tories are any good at governing the country, but everyone knows that however bad the tories are, labour would be a magnitude of times worse. They could not even govern the country properly when there were no crises occurring, just imagine the disastrous position we would be in now if labour had won the last election.
Edited by Pan Pan Pan on Saturday 24th October 10:09
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:Pan Pan Pan said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:Biggy Stardust said:
Fewer than GCEs?
Tell me the number then we can work it out.I've voted Conservative at General Elections all my life except for at the last one so if you think I have any time for Ken Livingstone you've backed the wrong horse.
Pan Pan Pan said:
Never thought that for a second (not sure what sane person would ever have any time for Ken Livingstone) but just wanted to point out that if someone is trying to make a point with regards to the number of children a politician has had, it would not be very accurate if it focused on the re productive abilities of just one politician, and that all such multi off spring politicians should be included. Strangely having multiple offspring is not something confined to the tories in the HoC.
I agree which is why I dragged Johnson into it.People are very quick to mention Rayner being a single mother and her education etc. and I'm simply suggesting if you look at the man in charge of the country and his own record around parenting it doesn't look great.
There's a bit of a double-standard going on there in my opinion.
Glade said:
Wills2 said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: I bet we can all guess who won't be going hungry thanks to taxpayer subsidies.
I presume the mini steak and kidney pudding is for when a mini sirloin by itself couldn't possibly be enough.
I think the Tories got this horribly wrong.I presume the mini steak and kidney pudding is for when a mini sirloin by itself couldn't possibly be enough.
The sight of MPs earning a publically funded 82k + exs whilst enjoying subsidised food at the tax payers expense, telling minimum wage workers who have been ordered by them to stop work that they won't fund £2-3 per meal over half term is piss poor.
But they couldn't use that alone to fund the scheme.
10,320,811 school age students in the UK vs 650 MPs.
I think they could fund it, a step towards more universal benefit. Level the playing field for the kids.
Probably bring some unexpected consequences. Fat kids having two dinners. One at school, one at home etc
The more we see of Rayner the better as far as I'm concerned. She gives us a peep into the future. Forget the crass aggression, single motherhood and what she might look like and focus on the fact she has the potential to influence your life massively. People talk about how we need to pay for the current cluster****. That will be bad enough under the Tories but just imagine what it will be like under a Labour Party populated by people like the lady in question. There's every chance that will happen, given the mess the Tories are making of things and the scale of the fallout over the next three or four years. It's not difficult to see them being punished by voters. God help you if you've got any assets left then.
Edited by Taylor James on Saturday 24th October 11:10
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