45th President of the United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 10)

45th President of the United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 10)

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kowalski655

14,656 posts

144 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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Al Gorithum said:
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You want a better nation, be a better citizen."
Powerful stuff

Byker28i

60,142 posts

218 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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Team trump profiled 274 celebrities to see if they could approach any of them to endorse trump, only 10 made the cut.

The documents, obtained by the Oversight Committee confirmed reporting by Politico about the taxpayer-funded campaign to help trump, again using govt resouces to support his reelection campaign.

The Trump appointee steering the $300M ad campaign to “defeat despair” about coronavirus privately pitched a different theme — “Helping the President will Help the Country.”




The Trump appointee who steered a $300 million taxpayer-funded ad campaign to "defeat despair" about the coronavirus privately pitched a different theme last month: "Helping the President will Help the Country."

That proposal, which came in a meeting between Trump administration officials and campaign contractors, is among documents obtained by the House Oversight Committee that further illustrate how political considerations shaped the massive campaign as officials rushed to get public service announcements on the air before Election Day. The committee shared the documents with POLITICO, which first detailed the campaign in a series of reports last month.

For instance, contractors vetted at least 274 potential celebrity contributors for their stances on gay rights, gun control and the 2016 election before allowing them to participate in the campaign. One promised public service announcement, which would have also featured infectious disease expert Anthony Fauci, was nixed because the celebrity who was set to participate with Fauci had been critical of President Donald Trump, according to documents.

The official overseeing the campaign — Michael Caputo, who Trump personally tapped as the health department’s top spokesperson — also sought to overrule the career civil servants assigned to the campaign, directly urging contractors to rush production of ads with celebrities like Trump-supporting actor Antonio Sabato, Jr.

“We must film them ASAP — we need content in the can now,” Caputo wrote in an email to contractors on Sept. 13, three days before he took a medical leave from the health department. A federal official subsequently removed Caputo from the email chain and reiterated that only two career civil servants on the chain could provide “actionable direction” to the contractors on how to proceed.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/29/coronavir...




“Your failure to provide the documents we requested — especially in light of the information we have learned from the contractors — appears to be part of a cover-up to conceal the Trump Administration’s misuse of hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars for partisan political purposes ahead of the upcoming election, and to direct taxpayer funds to friends and allies of Trump Administration officials,” Reps. Carolyn Maloney (D-N.Y.), Jim Clyburn (D-S.C.) and Raja Krishnamoorthi (D-Ill.) wrote to Azar in an accompanying letter.

DanL

6,218 posts

266 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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Slaav said:
I have an ‘acquaintance’ who while working at the BBC fitted every possible stereotype of a leftie media luvvy. She was a journalist and was very vocal about her views. One day she conspiratorially whispered she had just voted Tory as...... “she and her kids will be better off” - earned decent money, own home etc.

People really do have short term and fluid morals at times!
Thread derailment, but it seems everyone’s a socialist while it’s other people’s money that’s being redistributed. wink

Byker28i

60,142 posts

218 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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Derek Smith said:
So what’s different in the USA, whereby an intelligent, educated, constructive member of society is willing to allow Trump to trample through their constitution without check?

Bewildering. It’s like a foreign country.
Corruption? It seems it's a way of life now for some

All seven of Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton's whistleblowers have resigned, been fired or put on leave


Two of the other whistleblowers were fired last week, two more were put on leave, and two others have already resigned — leaving the sprawling agency without seven of its top officials. A spokesman for Paxton denied that the firings were retaliation, citing unspecified violations of agency policy.

Bangert and six of his colleagues alerted law enforcement weeks ago that they had a “good faith” belief that their boss had committed bribery and abuse of office by using the agency to serve the interests of a political donor, Austin real estate investor Nate Paul.

Paxton has called the employees “rogue” and their allegations “false.” But documents and media reports have shown several highly unusual instances when Paxton’s office got involved in separate legal matters that involved Paul.

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/10/28/texas-ken-...

Byker28i

60,142 posts

218 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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Six Republican secretaries of state tried to stop Facebook's effort to register millions of voters.
Despite the request, Facebook claims it registered an estimated 4.4 million people to vote in the upcoming election.



In September, Facebook received a strongly worded letter signed by the secretaries of state of Alabama, Idaho, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, and West Virginia, asking the company to discontinue its Voting Information Center. It argued election officials alone are “legally and morally responsible to our citizens” and said Facebook has “no such accountability.”

“While such goals may be laudable on their face, the reality is that the administration of elections is best left to the states,” read the letter, which was addressed to Zuckerberg. “The Voting Information Center is redundant and duplicative of what we, as chief election officials, have been doing for decades.”

The six Republican secretaries of state warned that the voting information center could foster “misinformation and confusion.”
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanmac/faceb...

kowalski655

14,656 posts

144 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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All from the GOP , what a surprise!

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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Roofless Toothless said:
I wonder about this every time I vote in an election.

Do you vote for what is best for you personally, or what you believe to best for the community? Personally, and after much consideration, I have decided that I don't want somebody else making their mind up about what is best for me . I know what I want, thank you very much, and I wouldn't have the temerity to try and decide on someone else's behalf.

Surely the only way you can achieve a truly democratic decision is by choosing the candidate that best suits the needs and desires of the majority of people.
I can only speak for myself but I have always voted for whatever party I thought would best serve my interests best.

Old Man Fred

821 posts

90 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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Trump has now resorted to re-tweeting mentally ill people that support him
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1321794...

To all other trump supporters this is how much sense you make to people when you say how great he is..

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Blackpuddin

16,558 posts

206 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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vaud said:
I think many Americans want the cheap labour of undocumented migrants
Trump being one of them. He employed plenty, and I imagine still does, though he did unceremoniously dump quite a few when attention was drawn to it.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/gdpr-consent/?next_...
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/08/trump-orga...

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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paulguitar said:
What i find quite interesting about that ^^^ situation is that it basically precisely describes why Trump always screws everything up!

At face value, if you knew nothing about how a hurricane is formed and why it moves like it does, then drawing the "additional circle" on the map looks, well, looks sensible. You can see the projected path, coming in pretty much due westwards and hitting the coast, and so it makes " perfect sense" that if it were to continue to travel, then it would cross Florida and hit the area that Trump has expertly circled with his black marker, ie the coast of Alabama and Louisiana.

But, this isn't how huricanes move. They are entirely powered by the air temperature and moisture content difference between warm ocean and cold land. They cannot travel across land for any significant distance, and they quickly loose power and disperse. This is why, when you plot the path of the thousands of huricanes that have hit America's East coast in the last several hundred years, you get a mean path that simply turns north, and drives UP that coastline, which is why huricanes that landfall in florida, endup hitting the coast of Georgia and the Carolina's.

But for Trump, who is rather un-inteligent, and who genuinely believes that he knows everything about everything (nobody knows more about Huricanes than him), and is incapable of listening to anyone else (even people who actually know far, far, far more about such things), mear facts did not inhibit him from making a huge error, and error that literally any GCSE level geography student would spot, and putting his circle on the map in completely the wrong place.


Now extend that same, basic, mistake across everything he does.

Finances and the Markets
Hotels and Casinos
Public Health
Climate Change and the Environment
Social studies and imigration
Charities
Energy
Forestry
Famine and Disaster reliief
Conflict and war
Racial injustice and in-equality


The list is ENDLESS.

Everything he does is pretty much mostly completely wrong, simply because he's an idiot who is in-capable of listtening to anyone, and who believes they are an expert in everything.

Ladies and Gentlemen, i give you the most powerful man in the world, the President of the United States of America.............








Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 29th October 13:22

deckster

9,630 posts

256 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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Roofless Toothless said:
Do you vote for what is best for you personally, or what you believe to best for the community? Personally, and after much consideration, I have decided that I don't want somebody else making their mind up about what is best for me .
I would never presume to tell anybody else what to think. But as I have got older, and (hopefully) matured as a person, I have come to have a wider definition of "best for me". A longer term view, if you will. And what I have seen is that, long term, what is best for "the community" is, generally speaking, best for me. No man is an island and all that. I live in a community; I am part of the community - many communities, local, national, and global. So what is best for the community is, outwith of the immediate "hey, I wanna pay less tax", is on the whole also best for me.

Just a matter of perspective.

minimoog

6,897 posts

220 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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Lord Marylebone said:
I can only speak for myself but I have always voted for whatever party I thought would best serve my interests best.
Or 'fk you I'm alright Jack' as it is commonly known.

Byker28i

60,142 posts

218 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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The CIA’s most endangered employee for much of the past year was not an operative on a mission abroad, but an analyst who faced a torrent of threats after filing a whistleblower report that led to the impeachment of President Trump.

The analyst spent months living in no-frills hotels under surveillance by CIA security, current and former U.S. officials said. He was driven to work by armed officers in an unmarked sedan. On the few occasions he was allowed to reenter his home to retrieve belongings, a security team had to sweep the apartment first to make sure it was safe.

The measures were imposed by the CIA’s Security Protective Service, which monitored thousands of threats across social media and Internet chat rooms. Over time, a pattern emerged: Violent messages surged each time the analyst was targeted in tweets or public remarks by the president.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/t...

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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Stochastic terrorism

Byker28i

60,142 posts

218 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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This seems stupid - I thought the military were generally pro-trump or is this just that trump doesn't think?



The commander in chief who reportedly called U.S. troops “suckers” and “losers” is now pushing a ballot-counting policy that could disenfranchise tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of American service members who are voting from overseas.

President Donald Trump, in social media posts and remarks, is demanding that all ballots be counted by election night, even though federal law permits states to count ballots from troops stationed outside the United States, diplomats and other Americans abroad to have their ballots counted days later, as long as they were sent no later than Election Day.

In Trump’s new home state of Florida, the deadline for this election is Nov. 13. So, for example, his attempt to skew the counting in his favor could prevent service members deployed overseas from the Naval Air Station in Jacksonville or from Southern Command headquarters in Doral from having their votes matter.

“Trump simply never thinks of the military in his decisions. They just don’t matter to him,” said Fred Wellman, a retired Army helicopter pilot who now works with the anti-Trump Lincoln Project. “Thousands of ballots are inbound from around the world, and if Trump gets his way they won’t even be counted at all. It’s un-American and yet another failure to act as a competent and decent commander in chief because they are simply props for his ego.”

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/trump-disen...

kowalski655

14,656 posts

144 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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anonymous said:
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Thats why Ive never understood the demonisation of the poor,unemployed, disabled by society,and very often on PH. It only takes one drunk to run a red light or losing it in a corner in your TVR to put you in a wheelchair for life, it only takes one psycho boss to sack you, one crooked accountant to take all your pension,and you are there through no fault of your own.

Byker28i

60,142 posts

218 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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Donald Trump Jr.
@DonaldJTrumpJr

THE GREAT AMERICAN COMEBACK. Incredible economic numbers. Don’t let Joe Biden’s radical policies destroy this!

CNBC: U.S. GDP booms at 33.1% rate in Q3, better than expected

“the U.S. economy grew at its fastest pace ever in the third quarter"
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/29/us-gdp-report-thir...

Isn't this expected after a disastrous previous quarters as it restarts?


paulguitar

23,533 posts

114 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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Byker28i

60,142 posts

218 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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Byker28i said:
Democratic House chairs have asked the Inspectors General of the Justice Department and ODNI to review whether a counterintelligence investigation regarding Trump's financial interests was ever opened, as well as whether it was curtailed or terminated.

Has Barr or anyone else shut down investigations into trump...


Dear Inspectors General Horowitz and Monheim:

We write to urge you to review the decisions and circumstances surrounding the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the Office of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s reported counterintelligence investigation of President Donald J. Trump and his foreign financial contacts, including whether they did not pursue or were prevented from completing such investigation.

Recent reporting has revealed that President Trump’s company generated tens of millions of dollars in overseas revenue during his first two years in office and is hundreds of millions of dollars in debt, a significant portion of which is personally guaranteed by the President, and that he held foreign bank accounts—including with an unidentified Chinese bank.

The President’s foreign financial entanglements and liabilities give rise to serious counterintelligence concerns that warrant investigation. Recent reports indicate that neither the FBI nor the Special Counsel’s office ever conducted a comprehensive investigation of these matters.

It is imperative that your offices determine whether the Department of Justice (DOJ) and the FBI have examined the counterintelligence risks arising from the President’s finances. In particular, we urge you to examine whether President Trump or other White House officials improperly pressured or influenced DOJ or the FBI not to move forward with a counterintelligence investigation of President Trump and his foreign financial ties and liabilities. "
https://oversight.house.gov/sites/democrats.oversi...
Now why would that suddenly be news....

AH


Whitaker and Barr repeatedly tried to derail the SDNY criminal investigation of Halkbank—a Turkish bank thought to be laundering money to fund Iran’s nuclear weapons program—while Erdogan wooed Trump.



eoffrey S. Berman was outraged.

The top federal prosecutor in Manhattan, Mr. Berman had traveled to Washington in June 2019 to discuss a particularly delicate case with Attorney General William P. Barr and some of his top aides: a criminal investigation into Halkbank, a state-owned Turkish bank suspected of violating U.S. sanctions law by funneling billions of dollars of gold and cash to Iran.

For months, President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey had been pressing President Trump to quash the investigation, which threatened not only the bank but potentially members of Mr. Erdogan’s family and political party. When Mr. Berman sat down with Mr. Barr, he was stunned to be presented with a settlement proposal that would give Mr. Erdogan a key concession.

Mr. Barr pressed Mr. Berman to allow the bank to avoid an indictment by paying a fine and acknowledging some wrongdoing. In addition, the Justice Department would agree to end investigations and criminal cases involving Turkish and bank officials who were allied with Mr. Erdogan and suspected of participating in the sanctions-busting scheme.

Mr. Berman didn’t buy it.

The bank had the right to try to negotiate a settlement. But his prosecutors were still investigating key individuals, including some with ties to Mr. Erdogan, and believed the scheme had helped finance Iran’s nuclear weapons program.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/29/us/politics/tru...



Amazing how many of trumps team were involved with turkey, turkish banks etc Manafort, guiliani and his team (Fruman Parnas etc)
Remember when "US President Donald Trump has told Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan that Washington will lobby Nato members to provide Turkey with Patriot missile systems"
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/us-trump-nato-p...

Remember Giuliani, trumps personal lawyer, pressed Tillerson for help to release gold trader client who flouted Iran sanctions
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/...

Remember all those links with the russian oligarchs that Parnas spilled the beans on
https://www.occrp.org/en/investigations/behind-tru...
Another country trump is compromised by over money, dodgy payments etc


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Matthew Miller
@matthewamiller
Barr demanding that SDNY ignore DOJ rules and let a corporate settlement absolve executives of personal liability is unreal. A US company that asked for this would get shouted out of the room, but when a foreign dictator who can help Trump's bottom line demands it, Barr jumps.

Edited by Byker28i on Thursday 29th October 15:24

eharding

13,740 posts

285 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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paulguitar said:
Lord Marylebone said:
Argleton said:
Calm down. Christ, this place really brings out the pricks. You've actually spent time rifling through my profile, how monumentally sad and quite revealing. I have changed my username from time from time for the simple reason I've never really gelled with it. I've kept this one for a while, but that doesn't fit with your narrative. Next you'll be questioning why I don't have any cars in my garage, don't worry i have a legitimate reason for that, too..

"Provide proof of your bet" who the fk do you think you are? I bet (haha) you've been sitting there waiting all day for it, again rather sad (becoming a theme here). A rather sad image of you there ready to wk yourself silly over it with other posters. No, thanks. Don't need to prove anything. The only reason I brought it up was that I am that confident of Trump winning.

Interesting use of the word thundertwunt as it would the word I'd use to describe you. You didn't even realise that I wasn't supporting Trump you were too busy frothing at the mouth and tapping the keyboard.
You are the one that made up some ridiculous lie about betting £5000 on Trump, and now you go on to blame everyone else over it? rofl

Amazing.

I think we can safely say that if you don't post the betting slip, you will be mocked, ignored, and not taken seriously like Welshbeef has been for years.
It's the 'doubling down' that I find most fascinating about these types. Sort of like this, one of the craziest events in a crazy few years:

It'll be fascinating to see if our high roller attempts to double down on his betting claims, or just disappears entirely from the thread (along with a name change). He's rather painted himself into a corner if he can't (and I don't believe he can) prove he actually made a bet. If Trump wins, and Argleton attempts to come back to celebrate his imaginary winnings he'll be seen as the bloke who not only lied about making a bet, but also lying about the amount he then won. Conversely, if Trump loses, then he'll be the bloke to claimed to have lost £5K on a Trump bet, the very definition of a natural born loser. In the event of Trump losing and Argleton then claiming never to have made the bet, then he's a self-confessed lying fantasist.

The only good way out for him would be to both a) prove he made the bet and b) for Trump to win. So you're taking the chances on something very improbable, multiplied by the chances of something which the odds are currently against. It doesn't look good, I have to say.



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