45th President of the United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 10)
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Byker28i said:
At least two attendees of Trump's rally in Gastonia, North Carolina on October 21 have tested positive for COVID-19.
https://www.wbtv.com/2020/10/29/least-two-positive...
Donald Jnr claims the coronovirus are almost nothing
https://twitter.com/i/status/1322001939266109441
over 1000 deaths a day, over 9m cases now, the US number 1 in the world for cases, surpassing even India who has 4 times the population/
Edit:
The COVID Tracking Project
@COVID19Tracking
Our daily update is published. States reported a record number of cases—88.5k—and 1.3 million tests. 46k people are hospitalized. The death toll was 1049.
Do you not think that the drop in flu deaths this year by 2/3rds on a 5 year average is slightly coincidental? https://www.wbtv.com/2020/10/29/least-two-positive...
Donald Jnr claims the coronovirus are almost nothing
https://twitter.com/i/status/1322001939266109441
over 1000 deaths a day, over 9m cases now, the US number 1 in the world for cases, surpassing even India who has 4 times the population/
Edit:
The COVID Tracking Project
@COVID19Tracking
Our daily update is published. States reported a record number of cases—88.5k—and 1.3 million tests. 46k people are hospitalized. The death toll was 1049.
Edited by Byker28i on Friday 30th October 07:47
kayc said:
o you not think that the drop in flu deaths this year by 2/3rds on a 5 year average is slightly coincidental?
Where have you found that??The CDC preliminary report is out and the range is within normal.... https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-i...
Here's that Sir lie again
Daniel Dale
@ddale8
Trump says he's getting calls from allies urging him to talk about the economy and "sir, you shouldn't be speaking about Hunter...because nobody cares." Trump: "I disagree. Maybe that's why I'm here and they're not." He asks "how many times" he can possibly say economic stats.
Daniel Dale
@ddale8
Trump says he's getting calls from allies urging him to talk about the economy and "sir, you shouldn't be speaking about Hunter...because nobody cares." Trump: "I disagree. Maybe that's why I'm here and they're not." He asks "how many times" he can possibly say economic stats.
Byker28i said:
The cook report are claiming Biden will have enough of a win on election night to make it impossible for trump to contest
What I am wondering is if this will be one or the rarest species of national elections—a wave election in a presidential year ending in a zero, meaning it will reverberate for a decade thanks to the coming redistricting. There are not a dozen Republican Senate seats that could fall, as Democrats suffered in 1980, but Joe Biden may well replicate Ronald Reagan’s 10-point victory over President Carter. The odds are it will be a bit less, perhaps in the 53 to 44 percent range, with 3 percent going to independents and write-ins, half of the number from four years ago.
https://www.nationaljournal.com/s/711037?unlock=SR...
I think reporting like this is very dangerous. In 2016 plenty of people didn't vote as the result seemed clear. I appreciate this time round a lot more votes have already been cast but the more you read stuff about 'blue waves' and landslides then Democrats start to not bother voting and Republicans are energised. When just a few votes can matter in a critical state it can have much wider implications.What I am wondering is if this will be one or the rarest species of national elections—a wave election in a presidential year ending in a zero, meaning it will reverberate for a decade thanks to the coming redistricting. There are not a dozen Republican Senate seats that could fall, as Democrats suffered in 1980, but Joe Biden may well replicate Ronald Reagan’s 10-point victory over President Carter. The odds are it will be a bit less, perhaps in the 53 to 44 percent range, with 3 percent going to independents and write-ins, half of the number from four years ago.
https://www.nationaljournal.com/s/711037?unlock=SR...
Bill said:
kayc said:
o you not think that the drop in flu deaths this year by 2/3rds on a 5 year average is slightly coincidental?
Where have you found that??The CDC preliminary report is out and the range is within normal.... https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-i...
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13017357/drop-flu-de...
There's also similar stuff going around facebook for the UK, fact checked as wrong
https://fullfact.org/online/flu-pneumonia-deaths-w...
Bill said:
kayc said:
o you not think that the drop in flu deaths this year by 2/3rds on a 5 year average is slightly coincidental?
Where have you found that??The CDC preliminary report is out and the range is within normal.... https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-i...
kayc said:
Bill said:
kayc said:
o you not think that the drop in flu deaths this year by 2/3rds on a 5 year average is slightly coincidental?
Where have you found that??The CDC preliminary report is out and the range is within normal.... https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-i...
Flu deaths are down two-thirds from the five-year average, a drop that could indicate the most vulnerable Americans died in the first wave of COVID-19.
New federal estimates show no flu deaths for the week ending Oct. 17. The federal five-year average for the same week is 17 fatalities. The state and the city recorded no flu deaths, which is also that week’s five-year average for each.
The city is taking a wait-and-see attitude, with the flu season just a few weeks old.
“We are still very early into this influenza season and it’s too early to make any predictions on severity,” Health Department spokesman Michael Lanza told The Post.
But private British statistician Kevin McConway told The Post he doubts “whether it’s the whole story.”
McConway points out that flu and pneumonia are airborne infections like the coronavirus and the safety guidelines put in place for the pandemic — masks, social distancing and handwashing — would stop them, too.
Said state health department spokesman Jeffrey Hammond: “Wearing masks, social distancing, hand washing, and all the other measures put in place to slow the Coronavirus should also slow the flu and other viruses.”
https://nypost.com/2020/10/24/drop-in-flu-deaths-m...
Byker28i said:
Bill said:
kayc said:
o you not think that the drop in flu deaths this year by 2/3rds on a 5 year average is slightly coincidental?
Where have you found that??The CDC preliminary report is out and the range is within normal.... https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-i...
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13017357/drop-flu-de...
There's also similar stuff going around facebook for the UK, fact checked as wrong
https://fullfact.org/online/flu-pneumonia-deaths-w...
Byker28i said:
Was your source the Sun, quoting the New York Post - home of the faked Hunter Biden story?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13017357/drop-flu-de...
There's also similar stuff going around facebook for the UK, fact checked as wrong
https://fullfact.org/online/flu-pneumonia-deaths-w...
So the Sun are quoting the NYP who are quoting current UK week on week stats...https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13017357/drop-flu-de...
There's also similar stuff going around facebook for the UK, fact checked as wrong
https://fullfact.org/online/flu-pneumonia-deaths-w...
Have they not noticed the whole social distancing/limited contact thing that's going on?? That (hopefully) has something to do with it. Nevermind that plenty of vulnerable died earlier in the year.
Plus it's not flu season currently, so those flu/pneumonia deaths will be mostly pneumonia anyway.
MX5Biologist said:
Nothing new. Australia, which has gone through a COVD winter, saw the virtual elimination of flu and measles, and that is put down, at least for the flu, social distancing, increased hand washing and face masks.
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/australia-m...
Flu is less contagious than Sars-Cov-2 (R-numbers are typically much lower), so these simple measures have probably had an enhanced effect on the transmission of the flu virus.
Sad news here is you cannot get a flu jab unless you are over 65 or have a history of poor health. The government have withdrawn all stocks for the doctors,who won't do anyone else, even for those classed as essential workers.https://www.healthline.com/health-news/australia-m...
Flu is less contagious than Sars-Cov-2 (R-numbers are typically much lower), so these simple measures have probably had an enhanced effect on the transmission of the flu virus.
My doctors said that the risk this year should be low anyway because of masks, sanitising, social distancing, just as MX5 said.
Byker28i said:
vonuber said:
kayc said:
ullfact sponsored by Soros...brilliant.
What?Easy to ignore much evidence and rational thought if you are blinkered
MX5Biologist said:
Nothing new. Australia, which has gone through a COVD winter, saw the virtual elimination of flu and measles, and that is put down, at least for the flu, social distancing, increased hand washing and face masks.
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/australia-m...
Flu is less contagious than Sars-Cov-2 (R-numbers are typically much lower), so these simple measures have probably had an enhanced effect on the transmission of the flu virus.
NYC went through a lockdown, is anyone supprised that other contagious diseases are also in decline?https://www.healthline.com/health-news/australia-m...
Flu is less contagious than Sars-Cov-2 (R-numbers are typically much lower), so these simple measures have probably had an enhanced effect on the transmission of the flu virus.
As you mentioned, Australia and NZ have reported fewer influnza cases this year... Due to the same methods being used to effectively curb Coronavirus.
Kay C has unwittingly been hoisted by their own petard.
kayc said:
Byker28i said:
vonuber said:
kayc said:
ullfact sponsored by Soros...brilliant.
What?Easy to ignore much evidence and rational thought if you are blinkered
kayc said:
pen society Foundations along with Omidyar Network..'game changing investment' in fullfact...maybe ive made that up too.
Whilst I have no doubt it has been made up... I doubt you've the creativity to do it yourself.Put simply, you're not even bright enough to spot an obvious conspiracy theory.
Byker28i said:
Home of the faked Hunter Biden story
Flu deaths are down two-thirds from the five-year average, a drop that could indicate the most vulnerable Americans died in the first wave of COVID-19.
New federal estimates show no flu deaths for the week ending Oct. 17. The federal five-year average for the same week is 17 fatalities. The state and the city recorded no flu deaths, which is also that week’s five-year average for each.
The city is taking a wait-and-see attitude, with the flu season just a few weeks old.
“We are still very early into this influenza season and it’s too early to make any predictions on severity,” Health Department spokesman Michael Lanza told The Post.
But private British statistician Kevin McConway told The Post he doubts “whether it’s the whole story.”
McConway points out that flu and pneumonia are airborne infections like the coronavirus and the safety guidelines put in place for the pandemic — masks, social distancing and handwashing — would stop them, too.
Said state health department spokesman Jeffrey Hammond: “Wearing masks, social distancing, hand washing, and all the other measures put in place to slow the Coronavirus should also slow the flu and other viruses.”
https://nypost.com/2020/10/24/drop-in-flu-deaths-m...
There was a report on flu deaths in Australia post lockdown - their winter. The number of flu deaths was 'statistically insignificant'. It was suggested, not by the Ozzies, that excess deaths was a highly inaccurate method of calculating deaths from Covid. The same reasons were suggest, that social distancing, and masks, more or less eliminated the disease. Just to make it clear, there were still deaths from influenza but they were so few that it didn't register on the graphs in the main. It was just a line along the bottom.Flu deaths are down two-thirds from the five-year average, a drop that could indicate the most vulnerable Americans died in the first wave of COVID-19.
New federal estimates show no flu deaths for the week ending Oct. 17. The federal five-year average for the same week is 17 fatalities. The state and the city recorded no flu deaths, which is also that week’s five-year average for each.
The city is taking a wait-and-see attitude, with the flu season just a few weeks old.
“We are still very early into this influenza season and it’s too early to make any predictions on severity,” Health Department spokesman Michael Lanza told The Post.
But private British statistician Kevin McConway told The Post he doubts “whether it’s the whole story.”
McConway points out that flu and pneumonia are airborne infections like the coronavirus and the safety guidelines put in place for the pandemic — masks, social distancing and handwashing — would stop them, too.
Said state health department spokesman Jeffrey Hammond: “Wearing masks, social distancing, hand washing, and all the other measures put in place to slow the Coronavirus should also slow the flu and other viruses.”
https://nypost.com/2020/10/24/drop-in-flu-deaths-m...
New Scientist: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2242113-austr...
Edited to add:
That's not the report I'm referring to, but it does contain the information.
Edited by Derek Smith on Friday 30th October 09:14
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