'It Just Fell Off"

[Red 4]

Greg_D said:

Red 4 said:

Plus the fact that mounting points are difficult to find on modern bikes. Unless you like your plate sideways, which although still difficult rather defeats the object.

have you seen a lamborghini front bumper??? the plate looks ridiculous whichever way you mount it. much like a modern bike...

It may do but that isn't the point. The law requires you to have one.

Bikes (after 2000/ 2001, CBA checking) MUST NOT have a front plate fitted.

I don't think the legislators were all that bothered about Lamborghini's design department.
That's Lambo's problem. Nobody else's.

[The Wookie]

yellowjack said:

It's Bournemouth. There is an issue (whether perceived or real) with owners/drivers of "performance" cars behaving badly in town. It's not just Lambos, etc. BMWs, Audis, warmed over Fords, Hondas, all sorts. Doing laps of Westover Road/Hinton Road at night. F1 style starts repeatedly. Sitting outside some gym or other revving the tits of their cars. And because it's also full of hotels with people trying to get some kip, and residential properties above shops, etc. there are a lot of complaints to Police about such behaviour. So here they are, rightly doing something about it, in order to appease those who feel their lives are blighted by such wkspangles. Clearly the 'No Excuses' team were in the area, couldn't identify any moving traffic offences being committed by this driver, but they happened to notice that the number plate "literally must have just fallen off, officer..." and felt that turning a blind eye or dealing with the offence by means of a warning wasn't sufficient in this case.

I cycle home up Hinton Road regularly. I hate these Muppets. So for me, the more time they spend at the roadside dealing with paperwork relating to "minor offences", and the more the Police have a visible presence there, the less likely I am to be clouted from behind by one of these ponces showing off to their mates. I love a nice car as much as anyone, but there's a time and a place to be exploring the performance of these things, and a town centre late into the night isn't it. More power to Dorset Constabulary's 'No Excuses' team in this case.

If you consider giving of these dheads a poxy £100 fine for no front plate when there's inconsiderate and dangerous driving going on as 'doing something' then I'd say you've got pretty low expectations of your local police force. Personally I'd rather they were actually dishing out careless and dangerous driving charges and blasting the length of bans over Facebook. If these people were blighting my life I'd feel something as minor as a £100 fine for a technical offence as utterly insulting.

Edited by The Wookie on Tuesday 27th October 14:11

[pquinn]

teapea said:

When I picked up my Huracan from a main dealer.

I asked why there was a spare number plate in the boot.
They then pointed out they don't fit one on the front.

I then spent a good month arguing with them about fitting a front plate, bare in mind this was a main dealer.

Anyway in the end I bought a stick on one, but the dealers attitude was "it's just a fine don't worry about it".

Guess they don't service/MOT any cars then.

[yellowjack]

The Wookie said:

yellowjack said:

It's Bournemouth. There is an issue (whether perceived or real) with owners/drivers of "performance" cars behaving badly in town. It's not just Lambos, etc. BMWs, Audis, warmed over Fords, Hondas, all sorts. Doing laps of Westover Road/Hinton Road at night. F1 style starts repeatedly. Sitting outside some gym or other revving the tits of their cars. And because it's also full of hotels with people trying to get some kip, and residential properties above shops, etc. there are a lot of complaints to Police about such behaviour. So here they are, rightly doing something about it, in order to appease those who feel their lives are blighted by such wkspangles. Clearly the 'No Excuses' team were in the area, couldn't identify any moving traffic offences being committed by this driver, but they happened to notice that the number plate "literally must have just fallen off, officer..." and felt that turning a blind eye or dealing with the offence by means of a warning wasn't sufficient in this case.

I cycle home up Hinton Road regularly. I hate these Muppets. So for me, the more time they spend at the roadside dealing with paperwork relating to "minor offences", and the more the Police have a visible presence there, the less likely I am to be clouted from behind by one of these ponces showing off to their mates. I love a nice car as much as anyone, but there's a time and a place to be exploring the performance of these things, and a town centre late into the night isn't it. More power to Dorset Constabulary's 'No Excuses' team in this case.

If you consider giving of these dheads a poxy £100 fine for no front plate when there's inconsiderate and dangerous driving going on as 'doing something' then I'd say you've got pretty low expectations of your local police force. Personally I'd rather they were actually dishing out careless and dangerous driving charges and blasting the length of bans over Facebook. If these people were blighting my life I'd feel something as minor as a £100 fine for a technical offence as utterly insulting.

Edited by The Wookie on Tuesday 27th October 14:11

Hmmm?

It's not I said, nor what I implied. I'm just suggesting a possible scenario given what I know about the town and policing in it.

To be fair to Dorset Police, they do deal with offences as you suggest. But if a driver isn't committing offences other than a "minor technical offence" when they are observed, than I, for one, am glad I don't live in a place where the police would make offences, and evidence, up.

Here's one where an attention seeking halfwit ended up getting a Lambo seized by police for driving without insurance...
https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/18663495.la...
...is that serious enough for you?

The local cops do what they can with the resources they've got. Doing something rather than nothing is good enough for me. And by dealing with the number plate offence, it gives them the opportunity to check driver's details, and possibly detect other, more serious offences or to detain a person wanted for other offences.

[pquinn]

The Wookie said:

Stuff

You seem really upset about this - was it you that got caught?

[The Wookie]

pquinn said:

You seem really upset about this - was it you that got caught?

Weak

[Gameface]

Greg_D said:

have you seen a lamborghini front bumper??? the plate looks ridiculous whichever way you mount it. much like a modern bike...

Which is why my three didn't run plates and 2 still don't.

[The Wookie]

yellowjack said:

Hmmm?

It's not I said, nor what I implied. I'm just suggesting a possible scenario given what I know about the town and policing in it.

To be fair to Dorset Police, they do deal with offences as you suggest. But if a driver isn't committing offences other than a "minor technical offence" when they are observed, than I, for one, am glad I don't live in a place where the police would make offences, and evidence, up.

Here's one where an attention seeking halfwit ended up getting a Lambo seized by police for driving without insurance...
https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/18663495.la...
...is that serious enough for you?

The local cops do what they can with the resources they've got. Doing something rather than nothing is good enough for me. And by dealing with the number plate offence, it gives them the opportunity to check driver's details, and possibly detect other, more serious offences or to detain a person wanted for other offences.

Sorry but IMHO it's the difference between doing something and being seen to do something. If it's really happening then it can't be beyond the wit of the local police force to actually catch them in the act and deal with it properly, I don't see how you might get to the conclusion that corruption would be required to achieve that.

The example you've given is a welcome item and probably has closer to the desired effect but you could still argue that giving them a harsher nick via an insurance penalty is an easy one for them and still isn't tackling the issue head on. One would probably be able to justify it more on the basis of limited resources like you say and effective outcome ETA plus obviously that you've obviously dished out an appropriate penalty to an uninsured driver which is worthwhile in itself

ETA again, read it properly, they nicked the bloke for driving without due consideration for revving at pedestrians too, policed properly issue tackled head on, presumably he won't be doing that again QED.

ETA again again, as to be honest this whole police PR thing actually has got on my tits... If people being inconsiderate and making noise really is an issue in the area I'd have made the headline 'Driver prosecuted for revving engine at pedestrians'. More clickbaitey than a simple insurance nick by itself, will make the idiots think they're likely to get spotted if they do it themselves while also putting the wind up uninsured drivers who actually bother to read the article properly.

Edited by The Wookie on Tuesday 27th October 15:01

[mackay45]

Gameface said:

Which is why my three didn't run plates and 2 still don't.

We know, because you've said as much in this thread already.

[Red 4]

mackay45 said:

Gameface said:

Which is why my three didn't run plates and 2 still don't.

We know, because you've said as much in this thread already.

I thought Gameface said the police told him to get a front plate - which he did.

I thought he said he got the smallest legal plate available - y'know, as a kind of statement, like ?

Personally, even if I owned just one Lamborghini (which I don't although I could) I'd just stick a frickin' number plate on the front.
If you don't it just adds to the "Look at me, I've got so much money the law doesn't apply to me look".
This isn't a good look. IMO.

[Gameface]

mackay45 said:

Gameface said:

Which is why my three didn't run plates and 2 still don't.

We know, because you've said as much in this thread already.

I didn't say what marque my cars are, so when someone else mentioned the make, I commented again.

That ok with you?

[sealtt]

Gameface said:

Got a tug for it

Not the worst outcome I suppose

[Gameface]

Red 4 said:

mackay45 said:

Gameface said:

Which is why my three didn't run plates and 2 still don't.

We know, because you've said as much in this thread already.

I thought Gameface said the police told him to get a front plate - which he did.

I thought he said he got the smallest legal plate available - y'know, as a kind of statement, like ?

Personally, even if I owned just one Lamborghini (which I don't although I could) I'd just stick a frickin' number plate on the front.
If you don't it just adds to the "Look at me, I've got so much money the law doesn't apply to me look".
This isn't a good look. IMO.

Statement? You're barking up the wrong tree there.

These are the first cars I've not had a front plate on. It's not something I do to stick 2 fingers up at law. I don't ever court undue attention from you lot, frankly.

I just think it ruins the look of my current cars.

It's hardly the biggest transgression of the law I've ever made. I'll run the other 2 as they are, until I'm advised otherwise.

I'm not going to change that because a few posters on here don't like it.

[anonymous-user]

Gameface said:

Which is why my three didn't run plates and 2 still don't.

If they barely leave the garage you're not exactly "at risk". You could probably have them SORN and never get caught.

[Tommo87]

The Wookie said:

pquinn said:

That old chestnut? 'Jealous', or just 'why do you think the rules don't apply to you, you ?'

No different than if it was some stty old Golf or A3 with a US spec grill.

And you've proven my point exactly, they probably wouldn't have bothered putting it on twitter if it was a stty old Golf or A3.

Omitting the front plate isn't exactly exclusive to owners of expensive cars, and by the fact that it's only a £100 fine it's clearly considered a minor offence which they've correctly dealt with, so why the fk should we care?

It looks like they caught a few peeps in Bournemouth.

One guy had his cars seized, as his licence wasn't renewed after a ban.

https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/18813386.of...



I wonder if the Lambo driver still loses his plate, when the penalty increases to points on his licence,

[Leon R]

Red 4 said:

Because older bikes had them and if you remove the plate you are still left with mounting points that may be classed as "dangerous" - or at least not ideal - without a plate fitted.

It's an offence to have a front number plate fitted to a motorcycle registered after September 2000 (could be 20O1 but I CBA checking).

The safety downsides probably outweighed the identification benefits in the decision makers and legislators heads.
There's your answer. You are, of course, entitled to disagree with it but it is what it is.

The safety thing just asks more questions than it answers given the number of cars that come from the factory with things like canards and splitters.

I fully accept it is what it is and I am not campaigning to change the rules but I do think that it could go away and have almost no impact on anyone.

[Red 4]

Gameface said:

These are the first cars I've not had a front plate on. It's not something I do to stick 2 fingers up at law. I don't ever court undue attention from you lot, frankly.

I just think it ruins the look of my current cars.

But you are doing just that by choosing to run without a front plate.

You are sticking 2 fingers up to the law and you are courting attention because your cars are not legal.

You might not like the look of the front plate but the law doesn't care whether you like it or not.

[A Winner Is You]

Tommo87 said:

The Wookie said:

pquinn said:

That old chestnut? 'Jealous', or just 'why do you think the rules don't apply to you, you ?'

No different than if it was some stty old Golf or A3 with a US spec grill.

And you've proven my point exactly, they probably wouldn't have bothered putting it on twitter if it was a stty old Golf or A3.

Omitting the front plate isn't exactly exclusive to owners of expensive cars, and by the fact that it's only a £100 fine it's clearly considered a minor offence which they've correctly dealt with, so why the fk should we care?

It looks like they caught a few peeps in Bournemouth.

One guy had his cars seized, as his licence wasn't renewed after a ban.

https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/18813386.of...



I wonder if the Lambo driver still loses his plate, when the penalty increases to points on his licence,

Doesn't speak much for the likelihood of getting caught if you can drive around illegally for 32 years

[Tommo87]

Its amazing how so many people suddenly go full on teenage girl when anybody reminds them its illegal.


Nobody cares that bikes don't have them,, or you think its spoils the look of your car.
You aren't anywhere near important enough for your opinions to change the law, so save your breath for something important..

[Common Porpoise]

Gameface said:

Statement? You're barking up the wrong tree there.

These are the first cars I've not had a front plate on. It's not something I do to stick 2 fingers up at law. I don't ever court undue attention from you lot, frankly.

I just think it ruins the look of my current cars.

It's hardly the biggest transgression of the law I've ever made. I'll run the other 2 as they are, until I'm advised otherwise.

I'm not going to change that because a few posters on here don't like it.

what ruins the look of your cars is the fact that they will appear to be driven by a bellend, hth