13% of population, dominates social media, hates Britain
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Matt Goodwin said:
Fascinating look at Britain's "progressive left"
13% of population
middle-aged & well-off
Guardian + Channel 4
prioritise inequality & climate
anti-Brexit
focused on historic injustice
most likely to shout on social media
least proud of being British
Interesting thread.13% of population
middle-aged & well-off
Guardian + Channel 4
prioritise inequality & climate
anti-Brexit
focused on historic injustice
most likely to shout on social media
least proud of being British
I sort of fit those categories above, apart from 'shouting on social media'. I rarely post on Facebook/Instagram and never is it anything political. As for Twitter, I only read stuff on there occasionally, never post. I save any political discussion for PH.
Barely any of my friends on Facebook post anything political. But when they do, it generally seems to be split 50:50 in terms of either being right-wing or left-wing depending who it is, but as I said, it's fairly rare.
I suppose thats the point really, social media is what you make it. You will only see the stuff posted by friends, and if all you follow is left wing/right wing (delete as appropriate) people then that is all you will see.
If someone regularly posted political stuff on Instagram and Facebook I would unfollow/unfriend them anyway.
Lord Marylebone said:
Matt Goodwin said:
Fascinating look at Britain's "progressive left"
13% of population
middle-aged & well-off
Guardian + Channel 4
prioritise inequality & climate
anti-Brexit
focused on historic injustice
most likely to shout on social media
least proud of being British
Interesting thread.13% of population
middle-aged & well-off
Guardian + Channel 4
prioritise inequality & climate
anti-Brexit
focused on historic injustice
most likely to shout on social media
least proud of being British
I sort of fit those categories above, apart from 'shouting on social media'. I rarely post on Facebook/Instagram and never is it anything political. As for Twitter, I only read stuff on there occasionally, never post. I save any political discussion for PH.
Barely any of my friends on Facebook post anything political. But when they do, it generally seems to be split 50:50 in terms of either being right-wing or left-wing depending who it is, but as I said, it's fairly rare.
I suppose thats the point really, social media is what you make it. You will only see the stuff posted by friends, and if all you follow is left wing/right wing (delete as appropriate) people then that is all you will see.
If someone regularly posted political stuff on Instagram and Facebook I would unfollow/unfriend them anyway.
Eg Loyal Nationalists
Mail and Sun
Pro Brexit
Proud of Britain and history
Lean left on economics
Moved to vote Conservative recently
Worried about wokeness.
teapea said:
Goes without saying, the shouty angry left dominate facebook.
This GP blogger was blocked by facebook for saying IFR was 0.1%. Which is within the credible range various qualified experts have suggested. But no, Facebook censored him.https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2020/10/26/how-dange...
smn159 said:
teapea said:
Goes without saying, the shouty angry left dominate facebook.
Strange. In my experience it's the local running club and some guitar sites that dominate.It seems fairly easy to avoid political stuff on there if you want to
Some people don't seem to believe us. I've no idea what they are doing on Facebook though.irc said:
This GP blogger was blocked by facebook for saying IFR was 0.1%. Which is within the credible range various qualified experts have suggested. But no, Facebook censored him.
https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2020/10/26/how-dange...
Even the WHO announced a couple of Wednesdays ago that the Covid death rate was now 0.14% at the very most.https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2020/10/26/how-dange...
But funnily enough none of the main stream media around the globe have run with that story.
chrispmartha said:
BrundanBianchi said:
A lot of what goes on ‘social media’ wise, is quite obviously trumped up by people who would be ignored if they piped up on any other platform. There are far too many shouty weirdos who’s opinions really need to be taken with a huge skip load of salt, who have been given a ( largely unregulated) forum to spout their gibberish.
Again, a perfect description of PH NP&EYou tend to get a truer representation of society on here.
The big difference with Pistonheads is it's a special interest forum and by and large if I stay out of NP&E and don't spend too long in any threads with the word "cyclist" in the title I can end up none the wiser what anyone believes politically. Whereas modern social media bases everything on the person rather than the topic, so you can't follow someone's interesting bearding about E39 tyre pressure monitoring systems without also being along for the ride around their views on local councils, incandescent lightbulbs and cafés putting the beans in a separate porcelain pot so you don't get bean juice all over your breakfast.
A subtle distinction I think people are missing from this is it's not that social media is dominated by progressive activists, it's that the political content is. It's not that (say) your civic pragmatists aren't participating at all, it's that they'll check up on family and post a few photos of the driveway cake sale without half a dozen angry political memes. It's made worse by the algorithms, which show you this stuff disproportionately because people can't help wading in to defend their point of view and constantly revisiting the same post/thread/etc. for lots of lovely engagement.
(Again, PH doesn't suffer so from this due to the special interest nature: it doesn't want to advertise me political parties and opinionated newspapers while I'm all riled up and angry at people, it wants to sell me an old Mercedes and the number of several specialist motor factors while I'm browsing the bargain barge thread.)
One thing I have found to make a massive improvement to Twitter in particular is the moment someone starts doing that irritating thing of reposting things to go "look what they're saying now!" then just unfollow them. I don't mind too much reading people's views (left or right) when they're reasonably put and logically follow from knowledge and experience, but that habit of endlessly quoting things which have been created purely to be controversial winds me up no end - more in fact than the controversial statements themselves.
A subtle distinction I think people are missing from this is it's not that social media is dominated by progressive activists, it's that the political content is. It's not that (say) your civic pragmatists aren't participating at all, it's that they'll check up on family and post a few photos of the driveway cake sale without half a dozen angry political memes. It's made worse by the algorithms, which show you this stuff disproportionately because people can't help wading in to defend their point of view and constantly revisiting the same post/thread/etc. for lots of lovely engagement.
(Again, PH doesn't suffer so from this due to the special interest nature: it doesn't want to advertise me political parties and opinionated newspapers while I'm all riled up and angry at people, it wants to sell me an old Mercedes and the number of several specialist motor factors while I'm browsing the bargain barge thread.)
One thing I have found to make a massive improvement to Twitter in particular is the moment someone starts doing that irritating thing of reposting things to go "look what they're saying now!" then just unfollow them. I don't mind too much reading people's views (left or right) when they're reasonably put and logically follow from knowledge and experience, but that habit of endlessly quoting things which have been created purely to be controversial winds me up no end - more in fact than the controversial statements themselves.
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