Why the Corbyn hatred?

[R Mutt]

Hereward said:

Not sure if serious.

Their focus and energy should primarily be on UK domestic issues. Sure it's fine to have a foreign policy but why the total obsession with Israel? What about the genocide and injustice in all the other corners of the globe?

It's Student Union politics and utterly weird.

It's the same blanket of causes BLM, Palestine, migrants, Remain, anti-capitalism, and I don't even think you'd be considered extreme by your peers if you extended that to ACAB, anarchy, IRA and terror organisations as long as they were on the same side.

[Supercilious Sid]

[Astacus]

The Spruce Goose said:

Hard Right is acceptable and has risen all over Europe. Hard left and you are deemed a loony.

It is funny how the Right is using fear, what conservatism thrives on, to elicit votes, instead of focusing on real policies. Corbyn was just a relic from past times.

I have no idea where you get the idea that far right politics is Deemed acceptable; even on here it is generally condemned. Extremism is the issue. It promotes hatred and violence on both sides. It dehumanises and erodes morality until we reach a point where it’s OK to do anything to your opponent to achieve your ends. Both the hard right and the hard left wallow in this swamp.

[A Winner Is You]

Astacus said:

The Spruce Goose said:

Hard Right is acceptable and has risen all over Europe. Hard left and you are deemed a loony.

It is funny how the Right is using fear, what conservatism thrives on, to elicit votes, instead of focusing on real policies. Corbyn was just a relic from past times.

I have no idea where you get the idea that far right politics is Deemed acceptable; even on here it is generally condemned. Extremism is the issue. It promotes hatred and violence on both sides. It dehumanises and erodes morality until we reach a point where it’s OK to do anything to your opponent to achieve your ends. Both the hard right and the hard left wallow in this swamp.

Has a representative of a far right party (by which I mean actual far right, not people who disagree with Owen Jones) ever even been elected to Parliament?

[over_the_hill]

biggbn said:

He has been democratically elected to the house of commons since 1983, quite an achievement I'd say.

Not Really. In most seats a cabbage wearing the right coloured rosette would be elected.
Although it is quite surprising that he survived the Blair Centrist years.

Grrbang said:

Of COURSE he would be photographed with a mask under his nose...

That is so he can be seen turning it up at the great unwashed normal Labour voters

[GroundZero]

The Spruce Goose said:

Hard Right is acceptable and has risen all over Europe. Hard left and you are deemed a loony.

It is funny how the Right is using fear, what conservatism thrives on, to elicit votes, instead of focusing on real policies.

This sounds like a radicalised viewpoint if I ever heard one.

[Vanden Saab]

Supercilious Sid said:

That has a touch of the remain about it...

[amusingduck]

I saw that 'they must not be safe' post. They doubled and tripled down on it when challenged with the justification of "but they did that to us"

[98elise]

One other reason to hate him. He was intent on destroying the economy because he hated capitalism.

I'm a landlord and my investment in property represents my life savings and my pension. It's currently my only income. Corbyn wanted landlords to be forced to sell their properties at a 25% discount. That would take my entire investment capital and my pension income.

He also wanted to take 10% of every listed company in the country. Those companies are owned by individuals and pensions as well as institutions. That's an immediate 10% reduction in anyone's investments.

As I understand it the above would be illegal as part of the EU as you can't take assets without compensation. It's one of the many reasons Corbyn was lieing about his Brexit stance.

He is an utter disgrace, and so are any Labour MP's who stood shoulder to shoulder with him.

[vixen1700]

Not really into party politics, but I couldn't stand him. He just stunk of the Socialist Worker Party morons I used to see outside the TUC building in the '80s chanting "Maggie, Maggie, Maggie, Out, Out, Out.".


Plus what 98elise said.

Edited by vixen1700 on Friday 30th October 11:37

[crofty1984]

I could never have voted for Corbyn's labour. The idea of McDonnell anywhere near power terrified me. I had no confidence that the others could deliver anything, so what they said was immaterial. But could you imagine John McDonnell in charge of the treasury during Covid? He'd be rubbing his hands with glee at "the evil corporations finally falling". No mention of the thousands of people they employ.

I also didn't like Corbyn's finger-pointing weasel words. Always "we'll make everything fairer, nicer, friendlier". How? And what does that look like? Is "Fairer" a CEO who's worked his way up a business getting a massive bonus, or that bonus being taken from him to support the less well off? Never actually said "This is my plan, this is how I'll do it, if you agree, vote for me, if you don't fair enough" just ooh, isn't that st, we'd do it betterer in some vague way somehow.

The man had his dream job. Finger-Pointer-in-Chief. Now it's time for Labour to get a competent, more middle-ground leader who can put up a credible opposition. The country deserves a credible opposition, regardless of who is in power. Not Rick from the young ones taking opportunistic swipes from the sidelines.

[BeastieBoy73]

He ruined "The White Stripes", for me.

[Troubleatmill]

98elise said:

He's a starter for 50...

Invited two IRA members to Parliament two weeks after the Brighton bombing.
Attended Bloody Sunday commemoration with bomber Brendan McKenna
Went to meeting with provisional IRA member Raymond McCartney
Hosted IRA-linked Mitchell McLaughlin in Parliament
Shared a platform with IRA terrorist Martina Anderson
Attended a Sinn Fein dinner with IRA bomber Gerry Kelly
Chaired Irish republican event with IRA bomber Brendan MacFarlane
Attended Bobby Sands commemoration honouring IRA terrorists
Stood in minute's silence for IRA gunmen shot dead by the SAS
Signed Early Day Motion after IRA massacre, blaming Britain for the deaths
Arrested while protesting in support of Brighton bomber's co-defendants
Lobbied Government to improve visiting conditions for IRA killers
Attended Irish republican event where calls were made for armed conflict against Britain
Put up £20,000 bail money for IRA terror suspect Roisin McAliskey
Said banned terrorist groups Hamas and Hezbollah were his 'friends'
Called for Hamas to be removed from terror banned list
Attended wreath-laying at grave of 1976 Munich massacre terrorist (top picture)
Attended conference where Hamas and Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine were present
Photographed at rally in front of Hezbollah flag
Attended rally with members of banned Al-Muhajiroun
Repeatedly shared platforms with plane hijacker
Accepted £20,000 for appearing on state TV channel of terror-sponsoring Iranian regime
Opposed banning Britons from going to Syria to fight for ISIS
Defended rights of fighters returning from Syria
Voted to let ISIS fighters return from Syria
Opposed police 'shoot to kill' policy
Signed letter defending Lockerbie bombing suspects
Accepted £5,000 donation from academic who said 'Palestinians have a moral right to their terrorism'
Chaired Stop The War, which praised the 'internationalism and solidarity' of ISIS
Shook hands with cleric Raed Salah after he had been found guilty of incitement to terrorism
Shared platform with representative of extremist cleric Muqtada al-Sadr
Compared ISIS to U.S. military in interview on Russia Today
Opposed proscription of extreme Islamist group Hizb ut-Tahrir
Backed Holocaust-denying anti-Zionist extremist Paul Eisen
Criticised drone strike that killed Jihadi John
Failed to unequivocally condemn the 9/11 attacks
Called Colombian terror group M-19 'comrades'
Gave speech in support of Gaddafi regime
Voted against banning support for the IRA
Voted against the Prevention of Terrorism Act three times during the Troubles
Voted against emergency counter-terror laws after 9/11
Voted against stricter punishments for being a member of a terror group
Voted against criminalising the encouragement of terrorism
Voted against banning al-Qaeda
Voted against control orders for terror suspects
Voted against increased funding for the security services to combat terrorism
Helped convicted IRA bombmaker Gerard McLaughlin get a job after he got a council flat
Said ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi should have been arrested rather than killed
Went to court to support an IRA fixer
Co-sponsored Irish Republican event that called jailed bombers 'prisoners of war'

I'm an ex-serviceman and the above makes me sick that he's even am MP, let alone elected leader of the Labour party.

and.....

Refusal to sing the National Anthem
Wears anorak to Remembrance Sunday
Refuses to bow to remember war dead
Wants to slash funding to armed forces
Would instantly make our nuclear deterrent ineffective - by stating under no circumstances would he use it.

[Jasey_]

To summarise he's a

[anonymous-user]

Troubleatmill said:

98elise said:

He's a starter for 50...

Invited two IRA members to Parliament two weeks after the Brighton bombing.
Attended Bloody Sunday commemoration with bomber Brendan McKenna
Went to meeting with provisional IRA member Raymond McCartney
Hosted IRA-linked Mitchell McLaughlin in Parliament
Shared a platform with IRA terrorist Martina Anderson
Attended a Sinn Fein dinner with IRA bomber Gerry Kelly
Chaired Irish republican event with IRA bomber Brendan MacFarlane
Attended Bobby Sands commemoration honouring IRA terrorists
Stood in minute's silence for IRA gunmen shot dead by the SAS
Signed Early Day Motion after IRA massacre, blaming Britain for the deaths
Arrested while protesting in support of Brighton bomber's co-defendants
Lobbied Government to improve visiting conditions for IRA killers
Attended Irish republican event where calls were made for armed conflict against Britain
Put up £20,000 bail money for IRA terror suspect Roisin McAliskey
Said banned terrorist groups Hamas and Hezbollah were his 'friends'
Called for Hamas to be removed from terror banned list
Attended wreath-laying at grave of 1976 Munich massacre terrorist (top picture)
Attended conference where Hamas and Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine were present
Photographed at rally in front of Hezbollah flag
Attended rally with members of banned Al-Muhajiroun
Repeatedly shared platforms with plane hijacker
Accepted £20,000 for appearing on state TV channel of terror-sponsoring Iranian regime
Opposed banning Britons from going to Syria to fight for ISIS
Defended rights of fighters returning from Syria
Voted to let ISIS fighters return from Syria
Opposed police 'shoot to kill' policy
Signed letter defending Lockerbie bombing suspects
Accepted £5,000 donation from academic who said 'Palestinians have a moral right to their terrorism'
Chaired Stop The War, which praised the 'internationalism and solidarity' of ISIS
Shook hands with cleric Raed Salah after he had been found guilty of incitement to terrorism
Shared platform with representative of extremist cleric Muqtada al-Sadr
Compared ISIS to U.S. military in interview on Russia Today
Opposed proscription of extreme Islamist group Hizb ut-Tahrir
Backed Holocaust-denying anti-Zionist extremist Paul Eisen
Criticised drone strike that killed Jihadi John
Failed to unequivocally condemn the 9/11 attacks
Called Colombian terror group M-19 'comrades'
Gave speech in support of Gaddafi regime
Voted against banning support for the IRA
Voted against the Prevention of Terrorism Act three times during the Troubles
Voted against emergency counter-terror laws after 9/11
Voted against stricter punishments for being a member of a terror group
Voted against criminalising the encouragement of terrorism
Voted against banning al-Qaeda
Voted against control orders for terror suspects
Voted against increased funding for the security services to combat terrorism
Helped convicted IRA bombmaker Gerard McLaughlin get a job after he got a council flat
Said ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi should have been arrested rather than killed
Went to court to support an IRA fixer
Co-sponsored Irish Republican event that called jailed bombers 'prisoners of war'

I'm an ex-serviceman and the above makes me sick that he's even am MP, let alone elected leader of the Labour party.

and.....

Refusal to sing the National Anthem
Wears anorak to Remembrance Sunday
Refuses to bow to remember war dead
Wants to slash funding to armed forces
Would instantly make our nuclear deterrent ineffective - by stating under no circumstances would he use it.

Thanking our lucky stars he didn't get into power.

[AJL308]

I'll tell you my objection to him, something which I said time and time again during the election campaign. He's a deeply dangerous man. I mean really, really dangerous. I'm convinced he has a personality disorder - he's certainly a narcissist but I think there are other things going on too. He unquestionably has anger management issues as he has displayed on occasion such as loosing his rag with journalists and even violently launching himself at a female reporter in broad daylight.

He is completely and utterly unwilling to listen to any suggestion or pursue any political goal other than his own ultra hard-left agenda. He seems simply to be unable to accept anything as being a rational alternative argument. He cannot accept that there can be a better way to whatever he already has in his mind. When he speaks it is usually in a condescending tone as if he's looking down on those for being stupid for not seeing things through his eyes.

His propensity towards loosing his temper and violence is a worrying trait for someone who wants to end up in charge of a nuclear armed fleet. Even though he claims to be a pacifist I have no doubt that he would start a war due to his total intransigence. To be honest, I think that his propensity to anger and violence is in part due to the fact that he's rather thick and doesn't know how else to respond, rather like the school bully.

If you have ever seen The Dead Zone film, he reminds he of Martin Sheen's portrayal of the psychotic war-mongering President. Jeremy "the missiles are flying" Corbyn I like to call him.

Corbyn is also completely detached from reality as his utterly fantastical spending plans demonstrate along with the fact that state sponsored theft is not an acceptable form of government these days.

A very deluded and dangerous man who is rather unintelligent. Not a good choice for the highest office.

[popegregory]

AJL308 said:

I'll tell you my objection to him, something which I said time and time again during the election campaign. He's a deeply dangerous man. I mean really, really dangerous.

The lowest estimates for Iraq deaths was 150000. That’s quite dangerous? Blair’s not been purged from memory?

[Hereward]

popegregory said:

AJL308 said:

I'll tell you my objection to him, something which I said time and time again during the election campaign. He's a deeply dangerous man. I mean really, really dangerous.

The lowest estimates for Iraq deaths was 150000. That’s quite dangerous? Blair’s not been purged from memory?

Not going in to the Blair element but I am pretty sure Saddam started that war?

Also, your thread is about Corbyn, not Blair.

[Misanthrope]

Hereward said:

Not going in to the Blair element but I am pretty sure Saddam started that war?

Where did you get that from? He started Gulf War 1, but not Gulf War 2, unless you mean by his supposed possession of "weapons of mass destruction", which were going be launched at Cyprus in 45 minutes but which weren't subsequently found.

[Misanthrope]

AJL308 said:

Corbyn is also completely detached from reality as his utterly fantastical spending plans demonstrate along with the fact that state sponsored theft is not an acceptable form of government these days.

Depends on your definition of "theft". All governments engage in policies which could be described as theft. Just wait until the costs of the covid-19 fiasco have to be paid.