46th President of the United States, Joe Biden
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Bringing the thread back on target,
Paradise 'Biden' style .. Well worth reading the whole report
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/democrats-tea...
Paradise 'Biden' style .. Well worth reading the whole report
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/democrats-tea...
Edited by T6 vanman on Monday 20th June 18:18
liner33 said:
He struggles with steps so a bike was always going to be a challenge, guess it was an attempt to make him look more vital
I thought it was Trump who struggled with steps? Didn't he have to hold Theresa May's hand as he was walking down some stairs?https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/the...
Al Gorithum said:
Do you have a citation for that?
He took credit for the improvement in COVID situation, job numbers, the economy etc when all those things were largely outside of his control.There are loads of examples - this is him in May last year
'We've created more than 1.5 million jobs... the most in the first 100 days of any president on record'
Complete bullst figures when you think of what was going on for all of 2020.
The worm has turned with the economy now so much of the stimulus has been turned off and the war in Ukraine has kicked off but unsurprisingly, people are blaming the President. I don't blame them, he was ready to take the credit so he should be ready to take the blame.
gregs656 said:
He took credit for the improvement in COVID situation, job numbers, the economy etc when all those things were largely outside of his control.
I think the approach to COVID under Biden was a lot more sensible than Trump (drink some bleach and shine a light up your arse). in turn i think that affected the economy (job creation etc).I appreciate this is just a perception but it's the difference between having an adult behind the steering wheel and a spoilt 5 year old.
And FWIW if Trump was still POTUS then Ukraine would now have a Putin stooge in charge.
gregs656 said:
Al Gorithum said:
Do you have a citation for that?
He took credit for the improvement in COVID situation, job numbers, the economy etc when all those things were largely outside of his control.There are loads of examples - this is him in May last year
'We've created more than 1.5 million jobs... the most in the first 100 days of any president on record'
Complete bullst figures when you think of what was going on for all of 2020.
The worm has turned with the economy now so much of the stimulus has been turned off and the war in Ukraine has kicked off but unsurprisingly, people are blaming the President. I don't blame them, he was ready to take the credit so he should be ready to take the blame.
Al Gorithum said:
Was that "taking credit" or just stating facts?
Taking credit. He didn't put those figures into any kind of context 'we've' and making out it is record breaking.
There are other examples, and there are also plenty of fact checking stories putting his claims into context.
When Trump did this he was rightly called out on it, I think Biden should be too. It doesn't make the Democrats look good, and that is a problem with the mid-terms coming up. People know they had more money and gas was cheaper under the Reps.
To be honest ... Biden & the Dems propagated the Covid response narrative that you need to severely lock/shut down the economy ... and then give the "have's" trillions of $ with no services economy to spend it on ... They then are surprised that the "have's" buy material things leading to the resultant shortages and inflation.
That's just one facit of the economy (energy restrictions & Fed money management being others)
Biden own's the current economic catastrophes befalling the US,
The problem is Dems like Stabenow & Buttigieg when asked about the economic effect on the average Joe say .."Don't worry about doubling / tripling gas prices ..Just go out and buying an electric vehicle"
Biden still goes on gaslighting the US stating how good everything is ..... I guess when your getting 10% it doesn't effect you
There is a disconnect between the Dems and the Average Joe that the average Joe didn't feel was there under Trump,
Imagine JRM, Rishi, or Boris saying "Just go out and buying an electric vehicle" ... They may be distanced from the average UK Joe but you know they would not rub the noses in the economic situation.
That's just one facit of the economy (energy restrictions & Fed money management being others)
Biden own's the current economic catastrophes befalling the US,
The problem is Dems like Stabenow & Buttigieg when asked about the economic effect on the average Joe say .."Don't worry about doubling / tripling gas prices ..Just go out and buying an electric vehicle"
Biden still goes on gaslighting the US stating how good everything is ..... I guess when your getting 10% it doesn't effect you
There is a disconnect between the Dems and the Average Joe that the average Joe didn't feel was there under Trump,
Imagine JRM, Rishi, or Boris saying "Just go out and buying an electric vehicle" ... They may be distanced from the average UK Joe but you know they would not rub the noses in the economic situation.
Edited by T6 vanman on Wednesday 22 June 00:13
T6 vanman said:
To be honest ... Biden & the Dems propagated the Covid response narrative that you need to severely lock/shut down the economy ... and then give the "have's" trillions of $ with no services economy to spend it on ... They then are surprised that the "have's" buy material things leading to the resultant shortages and inflation.
That's just one facit of the economy (energy restrictions & Fed money management being others)
Biden own's the current economic catastrophes befalling the US,
The problem is Dems like Stabenow & Buttigieg when asked about the economic effect on the average Joe say .."Don't worry about doubling / tripling gas prices ..Just go out and buying an electric vehicle"
Biden still goes on gaslighting the US stating how good everything is ..... I guess when your getting 10% it doesn't effect you
There is a disconnect between the Dems and the Average Joe that the average Joe didn't feel was there under Trump,
Imagine JRM, Rishi, or Boris saying "Just go out and buying an electric vehicle" ... They may be distanced from the average UK Joe but you know they would not rub the noses in the economic situation.
I don’t think this is a very good analysis… Trump and the GOP did not shy away from shutting things down and giving money away through COVID, and Trump was quite happy to congratulate him self on the markets as a result of all that stimulus. That's just one facit of the economy (energy restrictions & Fed money management being others)
Biden own's the current economic catastrophes befalling the US,
The problem is Dems like Stabenow & Buttigieg when asked about the economic effect on the average Joe say .."Don't worry about doubling / tripling gas prices ..Just go out and buying an electric vehicle"
Biden still goes on gaslighting the US stating how good everything is ..... I guess when your getting 10% it doesn't effect you
There is a disconnect between the Dems and the Average Joe that the average Joe didn't feel was there under Trump,
Imagine JRM, Rishi, or Boris saying "Just go out and buying an electric vehicle" ... They may be distanced from the average UK Joe but you know they would not rub the noses in the economic situation.
Edited by T6 vanman on Wednesday 22 June 00:13
My observation is that Trump and the GOP were wrong to celebrate that short term analysis devoid of the context they created, and Biden and the Dems we’re wrong to take credit subsequently, and now Biden and the Dems are taking a lot of blame for a global problem
that is not really their own creation.
The whole thing is just more evidence, if it was needed, of how short term US politicians now operate.
gregs656 said:
I don’t think this is a very good analysis….
It's probably a weak analysis following the posters return from the RBL inebriated,If we base the fact that the US amount to 25% of the world economy,
Much of the world followed the Blue state doctrine of lock/shut everything down,
Much of the Dem leaning media and PIP hid and masked the 'responsible' anti lockdown/covid analysis - and "where the US lead the world followed
Now we are at the start of being able to compare Covid results between freer and more open Red states 'that were opening up as Biden was inaugurated' and we can conclude that the economy was battered by 9~12 more months of lockdown more than it should .... But thread drift and Covid thread >>>>> etc
ETA .. The US sneezes and the world gets a cold
Soooo much of the current US economy malaise is not Covid related but actions directly taken by Biden's team ...
Edited by T6 vanman on Wednesday 22 June 07:56
cqueen said:
cqueen said:
Like I've said before, intelligent people have got better things to do with their time than spout nonstop propaganda.
paulguitar said:
cqueen said:
cqueen said:
Like I've said before, intelligent people have got better things to do with their time than spout nonstop propaganda.
And absolutely hilarious.
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