46th President of the United States, Joe Biden
Discussion
cqueen said:
nick30 said:
No you are just a rude bully.
There are lots of nasty bullies in here that refuse anyone a different opinion than their own. Not entirely sure how they manage to get away with it. • Attempt to make any discussion deliberately antagonistic / awkward / uncomfortable / toxic.
• Ridicule any opposing viewpoints. Mock and misrepresent the alternative position
• Deliberately resort to personalised criticism. Try to claim moral high ground and question intelligence/morals of opposing side. Use extreme sanctimony.
• Piling on…….use consensus as coercion.
Thomas Sowell's prescient 1995 book 'The Vision of the Anointed - Self Congratulation as the Basis of Social Policy' is excellent. It may be 27 years old but Sowell was already warning of the creeping pervasive influence the more radical postmodern critical theory zealots.
Ideological subversion has been taking place in the US for more than half a century. The culture wars have been a deliberately divisive strategy used to socially engineer western countries via tried and tested divide and rule tactics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEefbbApuaE
Learning about Paolo Friere's teaching methods, and how they have dominated western education for the past three decades, will explain why many posters hold the views they do. Friere's book 'The Politics of Education: Culture, Power and Liberation' has been extremely effective at shifting the political landscape in America during that time.
Decolonise the curriculim, rename streets and buildings, re-write history ( herstory? ), employ affirmative action etc etc etc.
"Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. George Orwell 1984
Edited by Crackie on Tuesday 28th June 11:37
Crackie said:
The culture wars have been a deliberately divisive strategy used to socially engineer western countries via tried and tested divide and rule tactics.
The "culture wars" tend to divide the morons and the bigots from decent people (in my humble opinion). People who constantly bleat on about "Culture Wars" are usually the same bunch of cretins who used to bleat about "PC gone mad" because it exposed their actions and attitudes for the bigotry it was.Countdown said:
Crackie said:
The culture wars have been a deliberately divisive strategy used to socially engineer western countries via tried and tested divide and rule tactics.
The "culture wars" tend to divide the morons and the bigots from decent people (in my humble opinion). People who constantly bleat on about "Culture Wars" are usually the same bunch of cretins who used to bleat about "PC gone mad" because it exposed their actions and attitudes for the bigotry it was.See points number three above and points in bold regarding personalised criticism and extreme sanctimony.
Only you know whether or not you did it deliberately but your post is antagonistic / awkward / uncomfortable / toxic..........as detailed by Lyndsay/Pluckrose/Pincourt in point number one above.
HM-2 said:
What "policy" brought about this event?
"FACT SHEET: Strategy to Address the Root Causes of Migration in Central AmericaOn February 2, 2021, President Biden signed an Executive Order that called for the development of a Root Causes Strategy."
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statement...
Is the border policy 'working'?
Crackie said:
Countdown said:
Crackie said:
The culture wars have been a deliberately divisive strategy used to socially engineer western countries via tried and tested divide and rule tactics.
The "culture wars" tend to divide the morons and the bigots from decent people (in my humble opinion). People who constantly bleat on about "Culture Wars" are usually the same bunch of cretins who used to bleat about "PC gone mad" because it exposed their actions and attitudes for the bigotry it was.See points number three above and points in bold regarding personalised criticism and extreme sanctimony.
Only you know whether or not you did it deliberately but your post is antagonistic / awkward / uncomfortable / toxic..........as detailed by Lyndsay/Pluckrose/Pincourt in point number one above.
A strong case could be made that it's the conservatives causing the toxicity by trying to hang onto primarily conservative-white-male-christian societal norms in a society which is rapidly not conservative, white, male & christian.
southendpier said:
HM-2 said:
What "policy" brought about this event?
"FACT SHEET: Strategy to Address the Root Causes of Migration in Central AmericaOn February 2, 2021, President Biden signed an Executive Order that called for the development of a Root Causes Strategy."
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statement...
Is the border policy 'working'?
HM-2 said:
southendpier said:
HM-2 said:
What "policy" brought about this event?
"FACT SHEET: Strategy to Address the Root Causes of Migration in Central AmericaOn February 2, 2021, President Biden signed an Executive Order that called for the development of a Root Causes Strategy."
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statement...
Is the border policy 'working'?
Ignore it then.
his "policies" https://joebiden.com/immigration/
"As president, Biden will finish the work of building a fair and humane immigration system–restoring the progress Trump has cruelly undone and taking it further. He will secure our border, while ensuring the dignity of migrants and upholding their legal right to seek asylum. He will enforce our laws without targeting communities, violating due process, or tearing apart families. He will ensure our values are squarely at the center of our immigration and enforcement policies. "
"As president, Biden will finish the work of building a fair and humane immigration system–restoring the progress Trump has cruelly undone and taking it further. He will secure our border, while ensuring the dignity of migrants and upholding their legal right to seek asylum. He will enforce our laws without targeting communities, violating due process, or tearing apart families. He will ensure our values are squarely at the center of our immigration and enforcement policies. "
southendpier said:
his "policies" https://joebiden.com/immigration/
"As president, Biden will finish the work of building a fair and humane immigration system–restoring the progress Trump has cruelly undone and taking it further. He will secure our border, while ensuring the dignity of migrants and upholding their legal right to seek asylum. He will enforce our laws without targeting communities, violating due process, or tearing apart families. He will ensure our values are squarely at the center of our immigration and enforcement policies. "
I'm confused (easily done). Are you saying that Biden's immigration policies are good or bad?"As president, Biden will finish the work of building a fair and humane immigration system–restoring the progress Trump has cruelly undone and taking it further. He will secure our border, while ensuring the dignity of migrants and upholding their legal right to seek asylum. He will enforce our laws without targeting communities, violating due process, or tearing apart families. He will ensure our values are squarely at the center of our immigration and enforcement policies. "
southendpier said:
Well the policies are obviously designed to improve the situation at the border(s). It was a very big part of the Presidential race.
Is today's terrible news about the 46 dead an outlier, or are the policies improving the situation over the previous administration? (genuine question)
Well, the Biden policies that you quoted seem reasonable to me as objectives.Is today's terrible news about the 46 dead an outlier, or are the policies improving the situation over the previous administration? (genuine question)
nick30 said:
The Left have gone too far and hopefully some sense will return. Elon is my best bet now. Him and DeSantis fixing stuff.
There is hope, we don’t need this distopian nightmare that Biden et al are so keen on.
The left have gone too far? After the past six years of Republicans destroying the country I don't think it's the left going too far at all, it's the right going batsThere is hope, we don’t need this distopian nightmare that Biden et al are so keen on.
t insane instead. They're the ones sending America into a dystopian nightmare inspired by A Handmaid's Tale.And DeSantis? Really? He's a f
king idiot and a proven liar at the same time. A bargain basement Trump.Both left and right are to blame. The country would be a laughing stock, were the outcome not so serious for the rest of the world.
Each side dehumanises the other. There is little common ground. It's like watching the goings on at a tin pot South American failed state.
Shame on both Democrats & Republicans. I fear that unless some proper grown ups get involved the future is bleak.
Each side dehumanises the other. There is little common ground. It's like watching the goings on at a tin pot South American failed state.
Shame on both Democrats & Republicans. I fear that unless some proper grown ups get involved the future is bleak.
Al Gorithum said:
southendpier said:
his "policies" https://joebiden.com/immigration/
"As president, Biden will finish the work of building a fair and humane immigration system–restoring the progress Trump has cruelly undone and taking it further. He will secure our border, while ensuring the dignity of migrants and upholding their legal right to seek asylum. He will enforce our laws without targeting communities, violating due process, or tearing apart families. He will ensure our values are squarely at the center of our immigration and enforcement policies. "
Well, the Biden policies that you quoted seem reasonable to me as objectives."As president, Biden will finish the work of building a fair and humane immigration system–restoring the progress Trump has cruelly undone and taking it further. He will secure our border, while ensuring the dignity of migrants and upholding their legal right to seek asylum. He will enforce our laws without targeting communities, violating due process, or tearing apart families. He will ensure our values are squarely at the center of our immigration and enforcement policies. "
The 45th's second year in office = 415k migrants, The 46th's second year = estimated at 2 million and next year is estimated to be 20 million migrants.
He will enforce our laws with the exception to child sex traffickers, people smugglers, drug mules .....et all
tangerine_sedge said:
You do realise that "culture wars" is used to broadly explain the polarised views between Progressives/liberal and Othodox/conservatives, dont you?
Clearlytangerine_sedge said:
You seem to be pushing the view that it's only the progressives that are causing the culture war.
No. Takes two to Tango. The oppressor and oppressed hierarchy narrative has been around since Adam was a lad. It's hard to define precisely when & where the present day culture wars began in earnest.............the seeds were sown hundreds of years ago.Jean Jacques Rousseau – Discourse on Inequality. 1755
Immanuel Kant – Critical Philosophy. 1780 – 1790.
Georg Hegel – Dialectic Thinking & discussion. Science of Logic 1812-1816
Karl Marx – Critical Theories - Das Kapital. 1867 - 1883
Friedrich Engels – Private property and the State. 1877
Antonio Gramsci - Prison Notebooks - Cultural Hegemony. 1926 -1937
Saul Alinsky – Reveille for Radicals. 1946
Frankfurt School – 1923~1970. Max Horkenheimer, Jurgen Habermas.
Theodore Adorno, Minima Moralia 1951,
Herbert Marcuse, One Dimensional Man 1964
Michel Foucault (Power structures ), The order of things 1966
Jacques Derrida ( deconstruction ) 1967. ( Theory of Postmodernism)
Paolo Friere – Pedagogy of the Oppressed. 1968
Yuri Bezmanov – Structured ideological subversion of the West. 1950 - Present
Rudi Dutschke Long March Through the Institutions. 1967.
Paolo Friere – The politics of education : Culture, Power and Liberation. 1985
Joseph Buttigieg . Founder and president of the International Gramsci Society and father of Pete Buttigieg. Criticism Without Boundaries: Directions and Crosscurrents in Postmodern Critical Theory. 1989
tangerine_sedge said:
A strong case could be made that it's the conservatives causing the toxicity by trying to hang onto primarily conservative-white-male-christian societal norms in a society which is rapidly not conservative, white, male & christian.
Do you think your strong case, regarding the cause of the toxicity, is as strong as the one showing Marx / Engels / Gramsci / Alinsky / Dutschke were radical revolutionaries who sought to deliberately foster an air of toxicity and unrest ahead of insurrection and revolution? Edited by Crackie on Friday 23 September 11:20
Crackie said:
You're one of the decent people v people with different views who are labelled as bleating cretins and morons?
Yes.Crackie said:
See points number three above and points in bold regarding personalised criticism and extreme sanctimony.
Just because criticism is personalised doesn't mean it's not entirely justified. And the sanctimony is only called "extreme" because it helps the bigots to feel that their views aren't really that bad.Crackie said:
Only you know whether or not you did it deliberately but your post is antagonistic / awkward / uncomfortable / toxic..........as detailed by Lyndsay/Pluckrose/Pincourt in point number one above.
Which part of "the Culture Wars" is anything more than simply "not being a twunt" in your opinion?Blib said:
Both left and right are to blame. The country would be a laughing stock, were the outcome not so serious for the rest of the world.
Each side dehumanises the other. There is little common ground. It's like watching the goings on at a tin pot South American failed state.
Shame on both Democrats & Republicans. I fear that unless some proper grown ups get involved the future is bleak.
Pelosi: ‘This Extremist Supreme Court Works to Punish and Control the American People’Each side dehumanises the other. There is little common ground. It's like watching the goings on at a tin pot South American failed state.
Shame on both Democrats & Republicans. I fear that unless some proper grown ups get involved the future is bleak.
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