46th President of the United States, Joe Biden

46th President of the United States, Joe Biden

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AW111

9,674 posts

134 months

Tuesday 28th June 2022
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Well after reading Crackie's discourse, I'm definitely checking under my bed for reds tonight.

rscott

14,779 posts

192 months

Tuesday 28th June 2022
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T6 vanman said:
Al Gorithum said:
southendpier said:
his "policies" https://joebiden.com/immigration/

"As president, Biden will finish the work of building a fair and humane immigration system–restoring the progress Trump has cruelly undone and taking it further. He will secure our border, while ensuring the dignity of migrants and upholding their legal right to seek asylum. He will enforce our laws without targeting communities, violating due process, or tearing apart families. He will ensure our values are squarely at the center of our immigration and enforcement policies. "
Well, the Biden policies that you quoted seem reasonable to me as objectives.
Well even the most ardent posters on here have to accept He will secure our border isn't something the Biden administration is interested in,
The 45th's second year in office = 415k migrants, The 46th's second year = estimated at 2 million and next year is estimated to be 20 million migrants.
He will enforce our laws with the exception to child sex traffickers, people smugglers, drug mules .....et all
Where are those estimates from?

paulguitar

23,598 posts

114 months

Tuesday 28th June 2022
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coyft said:
Pelosi: ‘This Extremist Supreme Court Works to Punish and Control the American People’
Given what they've just done, that doesn't seem inaccurate.



HM-2

12,467 posts

170 months

Tuesday 28th June 2022
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southendpier said:
Okay, great, you can find the bumf he published on immigration as part of his presidential run.
Let's remind ourselves of the initial post from T6 Vanman again:

T6 vanman said:
Biden's administration and policies bringing new levels of misery
Which of Biden's "policies" caused this tragedy?

T6 vanman said:
The 45th's second year in office = 415k migrants, The 46th's second year = estimated at 2 million and next year is estimated to be 20 million migrants.
Estimated by whom? A figure of "20 million" sounds like fanciful nonsense to me.

T6 vanman said:
He will enforce our laws with the exception to child sex traffickers, people smugglers, drug mules .....et all
What percentage of illegal migrants into the US are child sex traffickers, people smugglers or drug mules?

Crackie said:
The oppressor and oppressed hierarchy narrative has been around since Adam was a lad
That's because it's an accurate assessment of the structure of most societies.

Edited by HM-2 on Tuesday 28th June 14:04

coyft

5,368 posts

212 months

Tuesday 28th June 2022
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paulguitar said:
Given what they've just done, that doesn't seem inaccurate.
It’s a dog whistle. Same old same old.

paulguitar

23,598 posts

114 months

Tuesday 28th June 2022
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coyft said:
paulguitar said:
Given what they've just done, that doesn't seem inaccurate.
It’s a dog whistle. Same old same old.
I don't agree. What the extremists managed to do by loading the SCOTUS is already disturbing and may very well get worse.

coyft

5,368 posts

212 months

Tuesday 28th June 2022
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paulguitar said:
coyft said:
paulguitar said:
Given what they've just done, that doesn't seem inaccurate.
It’s a dog whistle. Same old same old.
I don't agree. What the extremists managed to do by loading the SCOTUS is already disturbing and may very well get worse.
Perhaps they should defund the judiciary as well as the police? Where you see extremists, others see truth and justice and vice versa.

Yin and Yang.

AW111

9,674 posts

134 months

Tuesday 28th June 2022
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rscott said:
Where are those estimates from?
Someone's arse.

paulguitar

23,598 posts

114 months

Tuesday 28th June 2022
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AW111 said:
rscott said:
Where are those estimates from?
Someone's arse.
James Wood's arse.

MBBlat

1,641 posts

150 months

Tuesday 28th June 2022
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Strange how some on here seem to be under the illusion that the democrats are left wing.
Biden and the dem leadership are centrists/central right if anything. Even Saunders isn’t as left as Corbyn.

Blib

44,230 posts

198 months

Tuesday 28th June 2022
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MBBlat said:
Strange how some on here seem to be under the illusion that the democrats are left wing.
Biden and the dem leadership are centrists/central right if anything. Even Saunders isn’t as left as Corbyn.
On some issues - identity politics for one, they are extremely left wing.

dvs_dave

8,652 posts

226 months

Tuesday 28th June 2022
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HM-2 said:
southendpier said:
Okay, great, you can find the bumf he published on immigration as part of his presidential run.
Let's remind ourselves of the initial post from T6 Vanman again:

T6 vanman said:
Biden's administration and policies bringing new levels of misery
Which of Biden's "policies" caused this tragedy?

T6 vanman said:
The 45th's second year in office = 415k migrants, The 46th's second year = estimated at 2 million and next year is estimated to be 20 million migrants.
Estimated by whom? A figure of "20 million" sounds like fanciful nonsense to me.

T6 vanman said:
He will enforce our laws with the exception to child sex traffickers, people smugglers, drug mules .....et all
What percentage of illegal migrants into the US are child sex traffickers, people smugglers or drug mules?

Crackie said:
The oppressor and oppressed hierarchy narrative has been around since Adam was a lad
That's because it's an accurate assessment of the structure of most societies.

Edited by HM-2 on Tuesday 28th June 14:04
T6 vanman on another thread gleefully said:
It had crossed my mind but I'll leave my S**T throwing to the NP&E threadbiggrin
Has to bring his motives and credibility into question. Either way it’s not a great look.

T6 vanman

3,067 posts

100 months

Tuesday 28th June 2022
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dvs_dave ... playing the story rather than the man



Maybe if you could be so kind to find the story I posted written by the lady who told her harrowing story of abuse during her migration to the US thumbup

Edited by T6 vanman on Tuesday 28th June 23:56

HM-2

12,467 posts

170 months

Wednesday 29th June 2022
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T6 vanman said:
Maybe if you could be so kind to find the story I posted written by the lady who told her harrowing story of abuse during her migration to the US thumbup
Maybe you could point to the Biden policies that you believe caused the tragic event in Texas?

T6 vanman

3,067 posts

100 months

Wednesday 29th June 2022
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HM-2 said:
Maybe you could point to the Biden policies that you believe caused the tragic event in Texas?
Hopefully you'll be familiar to CNN
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/10/08/politics/border...
Article said:
"In one of his first actions in office, President Joe Biden had ordered a pause on wall construction and called for a review of projects and funds. Friday's announcement is the latest in the ongoing effort to cancel contracts geared toward building wall along the US-Mexico border."

But you'll remember this is another slight of hand as before this

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/president...
Whitehouse announcement said:
Biden announced a Termination Of Emergency With Respect To The Southern Border Of The United States And Redirection Of Funds Diverted To Border Wall Construction
So to condense ... Biden removes emergency and says those allocated funds will go to border wall construction .... Then next quietly announces the cancelling of border wall construction contracts thumbup


Edited by T6 vanman on Wednesday 29th June 07:49

hidetheelephants

24,547 posts

194 months

Wednesday 29th June 2022
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Building the wall of stupid would have prevented a lorry entering Texas how?

HM-2

12,467 posts

170 months

Wednesday 29th June 2022
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T6 vanman said:
So to condense ... Biden removes emergency and says those allocated funds will go to border wall construction .... Then next quietly announces the cancelling of border wall construction contracts thumbup
And how, pray tell, would have continuing border wall construction prevented the tragedy?

You do post some absolute tripe sometimes.

T6 vanman said:
dvs_dave ... playing the story rather than the man
I mean... you're the one who explicitly admitted you were a troll. It's not an ad hominem to point that out.

Edited by HM-2 on Wednesday 29th June 07:57

paulguitar

23,598 posts

114 months

Wednesday 29th June 2022
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Vanman, you've got serious form for ridiculous posts here, but are you actually attempting to blame this migrant tragedy on Biden putting to an end trump's non-existent wall debacle?


Electro1980

8,321 posts

140 months

Wednesday 29th June 2022
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Surely the wall would have caused more people to try other routes than sneaking across on foot?

tangerine_sedge

4,810 posts

219 months

Wednesday 29th June 2022
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Crackie said:
tangerine_sedge said:
You do realise that "culture wars" is used to broadly explain the polarised views between Progressives/liberal and Othodox/conservatives, dont you?
Clearly

tangerine_sedge said:
You seem to be pushing the view that it's only the progressives that are causing the culture war.
No. Takes two to Tango. The oppressor and oppressed hierarchy narrative has been around since Adam was a lad. It's hard to define precisely when & where the present day culture wars began in earnest.............the seeds were sown hundreds of years ago.
I'm confused by your posts. Your previous post seemed to put all the blame on the left for the 'culture wars', but here you accept that both sides are to blame?