46th President of the United States, Joe Biden

46th President of the United States, Joe Biden

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PHUSER1

222 posts

36 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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HM-2 said:
I don't think it's especially surprising. US interference in the affairs of foreign states has always been rather brazen and overt, which understandably results in negative perceptions. Where the likes of China and Russia have imperialist tendencies, these typically manifest themselves in more covert ways.
I'm sure it would be welcomed should the U.S decide to engage in a more covert manner.

Electro1980

8,295 posts

139 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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jeff m said:
With regard to SNAFUs and COVID most were made at State levels, not by Trump or Biden.
Isn’t that rather the point, that Trump did nothing and left states to make their own decisions and react to a national problem?

HM-2

12,467 posts

169 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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PHUSER1 said:
Odd to see someone lurching from citing right-wing libertarian outlets to citing explicitly socialist ones.
Almost like you're trying to intentionally pick any critique of Biden, regardless of political affiliation, for some reason.

PHUSER1

222 posts

36 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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Not sure of your point HM.

They're points of discussion about Biden on the Biden thread.
Should they all be from left, all from the right or all from the centre?
Which of the articles I've posted do you disagree with and why?

None of them are particularly critical anyway, not unfairly so IMO.

HM-2

12,467 posts

169 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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PHUSER1 said:
Not sure of your point HM.
My point is fairly obvious. Were you offering critiques from a particular ideological perspective I'd expect the sources you cite to align with this and offer some coherent underlying narrative.

Lurching from citing right wing reporting to left wing reporting, the only point of correlation being that they're critical of Biden, just seems like being argumentative for argument's sake rather than from a perspective of actual ideological disagreement.

PHUSER1 said:
Should they all be from left, all from the right or all from the centre?
I don't particularly care what ideological position people inhabit as part of their arguments, but violent lurching inconsistency in position tends to speak to "I don't like X and so I'll cherry pick lots of different perspectives on why X is bad even if they're contradictory" rather than "I have ideologically coherent contentions with X". The latter is arguing in good faith, the former is not.

PHUSER1

222 posts

36 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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HM, did you read the Jacobin article?

It's a new article about a current issue, explaining some background behind his proposed vaccination IP waiver, with some information about the interests of his administration that could prove problematic for him.
The article reads quite (mostly) supportive of Biden's stance on the matter so far!

It really doesn't support the point you seem to be trying to make. Maybe you've got my posts mixed up with another's?!



HM-2

12,467 posts

169 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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PHUSER1 said:
HM, did you read the Jacobin article?
Yes.

PHUSER1 said:
It really doesn't support the point you seem to be trying to make.
Not sure we're reading the same article here. The inference I get from it is not going far enough by failing to endorse the wider proposed WTO waver.

PHUSER1

222 posts

36 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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HM-2 said:
PHUSER1 said:
HM, did you read the Jacobin article?
Yes.

PHUSER1 said:
It really doesn't support the point you seem to be trying to make.
Not sure we're reading the same article here. The inference I get from it is not going far enough by failing to endorse the wider proposed WTO waver.
That's about one sentence, with an opinion from one group, in the whole article.

Which follows much more praise for Biden's stance on the matter of the vaccine IP waiver.

It also explains some of the resistance coming from the pharma companies and lists some instances of when Biden had previously acted in ways which would have pleased pharma companies but likely angered American progressives.

On the whole a well rounded and informative article.

Now if you want to discuss it fairly then that's great but I'm not buying the angle you're pushing.



PHUSER1

222 posts

36 months

Thursday 13th May 2021
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The administration's next task.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/05/07...

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-12...


Controlling inflation.
The Covid relief fund will add to the spike in inflation that's hitting the US and is having effects on the world markets as I type.
A sticky wicket to manage the balancing act of ensuring the nation doesn't go skint while also trying to limit the potential inflationary effects of doing that.

One to watch.


anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 14th May 2021
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POTUS tweet

“The rule is now simple: get vaccinated or wear a mask until you do.

The choice is yours.”

Thoughts? Vaccination card to prove your status?

Divisive?

Double Fault

1,246 posts

263 months

Friday 14th May 2021
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purplepenguin said:
POTUS tweet

“The rule is now simple: get vaccinated or wear a mask until you do.

The choice is yours.”

Thoughts? Vaccination card to prove your status?

Divisive?
Decisive.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 14th May 2021
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Double Fault said:
purplepenguin said:
POTUS tweet

“The rule is now simple: get vaccinated or wear a mask until you do.

The choice is yours.”

Thoughts? Vaccination card to prove your status?

Divisive?
Decisive.
True but will it be divisive?

Double Fault

1,246 posts

263 months

Friday 14th May 2021
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purplepenguin said:
True but will it be divisive?
Probably, given the general level of idiocy/paranoia.

Who cares though. Get jabbed and get on with it.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 14th May 2021
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Double Fault said:
purplepenguin said:
True but will it be divisive?
Probably, given the general level of idiocy/paranoia.

Who cares though. Get jabbed and get on with it.
Quite worrying that you have that point of view.

McGee_22

6,716 posts

179 months

Friday 14th May 2021
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purplepenguin said:
Double Fault said:
purplepenguin said:
True but will it be divisive?
Probably, given the general level of idiocy/paranoia.

Who cares though. Get jabbed and get on with it.
Quite worrying that you have that point of view.
More worrying that you're more concerned about how divisive it might be rather than seeing it as good advice backed by scientific evidence in the face of a pandemic...

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 14th May 2021
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McGee_22 said:
purplepenguin said:
Double Fault said:
purplepenguin said:
True but will it be divisive?
Probably, given the general level of idiocy/paranoia.

Who cares though. Get jabbed and get on with it.
Quite worrying that you have that point of view.
More worrying that you're more concerned about how divisive it might be rather than seeing it as good advice backed by scientific evidence in the face of a pandemic...
I could be concerned about it being divisive and acknowledge that encouraging having a vaccine for the vulnerable is a good thing.

It’s not a zero sum game.



Al Gorithum

3,715 posts

208 months

Friday 14th May 2021
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purplepenguin said:
True but will it be divisive?
As divisive as Trump? No chance.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 14th May 2021
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Al Gorithum said:
purplepenguin said:
True but will it be divisive?
As divisive as Trump? No chance.
We’ll see...

amgmcqueen

3,346 posts

150 months

Friday 14th May 2021
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purplepenguin said:
POTUS tweet

“The rule is now simple: get vaccinated or wear a mask until you do.

The choice is yours.”

Thoughts? Vaccination card to prove your status?

Divisive?
Sounds like a threat...

Al Gorithum

3,715 posts

208 months

Friday 14th May 2021
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purplepenguin said:
We’ll see...
I think we've already seen. If one cares to look.