How many have been vaccinated so far?
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isaldiri said:
spikeyhead said:
Have you any evidence to back up your statements?
Feel free to read some of the various neutralising antibody studies along with reinfection rate studies plus phase3 trial data and if you think I have posted anything untrue, do expand on exactly what and why I'd be happy to debate that as to why it seems reasonable to me to have posted what I did.Biglips said:
MiniMan64 said:
Boringvolvodriver said:
Biglips said:
Boringvolvodriver said:
But according to what they are saying, you can still give it other people and indeed you could still get it yourself so how does the protecting others work in that instance?
Need to travel for your business?Want a foreign holiday?
It reduces transmission if you do get it
It protects those people who are unable to have the vaccine.
Can’t see why you wouldn’t. Very little downside. Given to millions without a significant safety signal. Amazing piece of science to develop this in the time scales and great job of vaccine roll out in the uk.
Chile overtook Bahrain for fifth place, US next?
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covid-vaccinati...
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covid-vaccinati...
98elise said:
Boringvolvodriver said:
Pickled Piper said:
Just booked my two doses on the NHS online system. End of March and then June. It's a good feeling.
How so? What were your chances of having a serious case of covid to start with? Do you not trust your own immune system? Have you ever had the flu vaccine and felt good about that?Just intrigued to know why younger people are so keen to have this vaccine when all the evidence based on 12 months of infections, hospitalizations and deaths says that they don’t need it.
TX.
speedy_thrills said:
Chile overtook Bahrain for fifth place, US next?
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covid-vaccinati...
Could well happen looks like we are in a good 3rd place and looks like we will start to ramp back up in the coming weeks. Numbers of cases and deaths dropping fast specially considering we are testing so many per day.https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covid-vaccinati...
Terminator X said:
98elise said:
Boringvolvodriver said:
Pickled Piper said:
Just booked my two doses on the NHS online system. End of March and then June. It's a good feeling.
How so? What were your chances of having a serious case of covid to start with? Do you not trust your own immune system? Have you ever had the flu vaccine and felt good about that?Just intrigued to know why younger people are so keen to have this vaccine when all the evidence based on 12 months of infections, hospitalizations and deaths says that they don’t need it.
TX.
spikeyhead said:
Go on then, post some solid evidence for what you specifically claimed.
Go on then, exactly what do you have a problem wrt to what I claimed? Everything is broadly googlable, covid reinfection rates, antibody immunity, potential sterilising immunity, general hcov immunity. As I said I'm happy to defend anything i did post if you can point out anything false or incorrect.Boringvolvodriver said:
Pickled Piper said:
Just booked my two doses on the NHS online system. End of March and then June. It's a good feeling.
How so? What were your chances of having a serious case of covid to start with? Do you not trust your own immune system? Have you ever had the flu vaccine and felt good about that?Just intrigued to know why younger people are so keen to have this vaccine when all the evidence based on 12 months of infections, hospitalizations and deaths says that they don’t need it.
amgmcqueen said:
MG CHRIS said:
Can we get back on track about the numbers please leave all the pointless repeated arguments for other ruined threads.
No answer then.What is the point of anyone other than the old and vulnerable having the vaccine?! Makes absolutely no sense.
don'tbesilly said:
MG CHRIS said:
Can we get back on track about the numbers please leave all the pointless repeated arguments for other ruined threads.
youngsyr said:
amgmcqueen said:
Can anyone explain why i should get a rushed vaccine for a virus with a 99.04% survival rate...? A virus where the average age of death is 83...?
I really would have thought it's obvious - there are 123,000 odd thousand reasons why every adult should have one.That's 76. In total. In over a year. And I imagine most of those were obese (obesity is not classed as a medical condition in these figures)
There is absolutely no medical reason for any healthy 20-40 individual to take this vaccine because they're at virtually 0 risk. Even if the vaccine is incredibly safe, how can it be safer than the virus for that age group when you consider those stats?
The only reason to have it would be to 'protect others' or to avoid being excluded from society.
https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/wp-content/u...
Boringvolvodriver said:
We have never had restrictions for not having the flu vaccine every year and even one of the SAGE experts said recently, that we will have to live with covid just like we do with the flu.
So we should all have the flu vaccine now every year as well?
But the thing is, we are not treating it like flu. So in a bad year, 50,000 people die in the UK of flu. And we accept it. Now it's not acceptable it seems. So some on SAGE may say that, but that's approach is not happening.So we should all have the flu vaccine now every year as well?
amgmcqueen said:
MG CHRIS said:
Can we get back on track about the numbers please leave all the pointless repeated arguments for other ruined threads.
No answer then.What is the point of anyone other than the old and vulnerable having the vaccine?! Makes absolutely no sense.
“ Because the vaccine isn't perfect, so not everyone jabbed will become immune. The more people jabbed, the fewer vectors there are for transmission.”
It’s very clear ... it is better for the country as whole that the vast majority be vaccinated ... it may not affect each specific individual, but that is true of almost every single vaccine programme ... do you also refuse MMR on the basis that you aren’t a pregnant woman so won’t miscarry?
Additionally there will be many people unable to have the vaccine for very good medical reasons ... the more of everyone else who has it the better for them.
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