How many have been vaccinated so far?
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superlightr said:
Primary purpose of any vaccine is to protect the person taking it.
Are you going to require children to take the vaccine as well?
reducing transmission to those that cannot have it? Do we do this currently for others that are immosuppressed? no of course not as its nonsense.
To require the majority to have a vaccine for something that wont affect them to maybe protect somebody they may never meet and is such small numbers to be insignificant but is a risk to the person taking it is nuts.
Dont be afraid. You are easier to control if you are.
Would you make the vaccine compulsory?
Who said anyone was afraid? I’m 41 and not concerned about Covid. Are you going to require children to take the vaccine as well?
reducing transmission to those that cannot have it? Do we do this currently for others that are immosuppressed? no of course not as its nonsense.
To require the majority to have a vaccine for something that wont affect them to maybe protect somebody they may never meet and is such small numbers to be insignificant but is a risk to the person taking it is nuts.
Dont be afraid. You are easier to control if you are.
Would you make the vaccine compulsory?
Maybe I should be worried, as I personally know several other people around my age who have been properly ‘messed up’ by Covid for weeks, including one that required a few days in hospital for monitoring and oxygen, and they were previously perfectly fit and healthy people.
But that aside, I’m generally not worried, but I will be getting vaccinated anyway, very shortly. I just got my letter.
My reasons for choosing to be vaccinated is that it will help the overall situation of our country. I want to help in any small way I can to properly stamp this problem out. The virus isn’t ever going to go away, it is in circulation now and that’s it, we will just have to manage it going forwards via a vaccination program.
My reasons could be classed as selfish. I want the country back to normal so I can enjoy stuff again, and that only happens if we hit this virus hard with a vaccination program.
I consider the risk from the vaccine to be so incredibly tiny that it isn’t worth worrying about, and as I alluded to from seeing others get ill, there is likely a greater risk to me from Covid than the vaccine.
Lord Marylebone said:
superlightr said:
Primary purpose of any vaccine is to protect the person taking it.
Are you going to require children to take the vaccine as well?
reducing transmission to those that cannot have it? Do we do this currently for others that are immosuppressed? no of course not as its nonsense.
To require the majority to have a vaccine for something that wont affect them to maybe protect somebody they may never meet and is such small numbers to be insignificant but is a risk to the person taking it is nuts.
Dont be afraid. You are easier to control if you are.
Would you make the vaccine compulsory?
Who said anyone was afraid? I’m 41 and not concerned about Covid. Are you going to require children to take the vaccine as well?
reducing transmission to those that cannot have it? Do we do this currently for others that are immosuppressed? no of course not as its nonsense.
To require the majority to have a vaccine for something that wont affect them to maybe protect somebody they may never meet and is such small numbers to be insignificant but is a risk to the person taking it is nuts.
Dont be afraid. You are easier to control if you are.
Would you make the vaccine compulsory?
Maybe I should be worried, as I personally know several other people around my age who have been properly ‘messed up’ by Covid for weeks, including one that required a few days in hospital for monitoring and oxygen, and they were previously perfectly fit and healthy people.
But that aside, I’m generally not worried, but I will be getting vaccinated anyway, very shortly. I just got my letter.
My reasons for choosing to be vaccinated is that it will help the overall situation of our country. I want to help in any small way I can to properly stamp this problem out. The virus isn’t ever going to go away, it is in circulation now and that’s it, we will just have to manage it going forwards via a vaccination program.
My reasons could be classed as selfish. I want the country back to normal so I can enjoy stuff again, and that only happens if we hit this virus hard with a vaccination program.
I consider the risk from the vaccine to be so incredibly tiny that it isn’t worth worrying about, and as I alluded to from seeing others get ill, there is likely a greater risk to me from Covid than the vaccine.
Lord Marylebone said:
superlightr said:
Primary purpose of any vaccine is to protect the person taking it.
Are you going to require children to take the vaccine as well?
reducing transmission to those that cannot have it? Do we do this currently for others that are immosuppressed? no of course not as its nonsense.
To require the majority to have a vaccine for something that wont affect them to maybe protect somebody they may never meet and is such small numbers to be insignificant but is a risk to the person taking it is nuts.
Dont be afraid. You are easier to control if you are.
Would you make the vaccine compulsory?
Who said anyone was afraid? I’m 41 and not concerned about Covid. Are you going to require children to take the vaccine as well?
reducing transmission to those that cannot have it? Do we do this currently for others that are immosuppressed? no of course not as its nonsense.
To require the majority to have a vaccine for something that wont affect them to maybe protect somebody they may never meet and is such small numbers to be insignificant but is a risk to the person taking it is nuts.
Dont be afraid. You are easier to control if you are.
Would you make the vaccine compulsory?
Maybe I should be worried, as I personally know several other people around my age who have been properly ‘messed up’ by Covid for weeks, including one that required a few days in hospital for monitoring and oxygen, and they were previously perfectly fit and healthy people.
But that aside, I’m generally not worried, but I will be getting vaccinated anyway, very shortly. I just got my letter.
My reasons for choosing to be vaccinated is that it will help the overall situation of our country. I want to help in any small way I can to properly stamp this problem out. The virus isn’t ever going to go away, it is in circulation now and that’s it, we will just have to manage it going forwards via a vaccination program.
My reasons could be classed as selfish. I want the country back to normal so I can enjoy stuff again, and that only happens if we hit this virus hard with a vaccination program.
I consider the risk from the vaccine to be so incredibly tiny that it isn’t worth worrying about, and as I alluded to from seeing others get ill, there is likely a greater risk to me from Covid than the vaccine.
I see you didnt respond to if you would require children to be vaccinated or why we dont vaccinate all for the immo suppressed already?
superlightr said:
If the under 40's and actually thought about it they may well come to the conclusion there is fek all risk to them of covid and question the need to even have this experimental vaccine.
We do know whats happening - look at the age/death charts. its fek all if you are under 40.
A really great way of keeping this whole thing going, is to take this viewpoint. The data suggests that the vaccines are sanitising, so they stop severe illness, and prevent transmission. If the younger age groups think ‘Nah blud the vaccines are sWe do know whats happening - look at the age/death charts. its fek all if you are under 40.
t innit and I ain’t gettin Covid or nuffink anyway’ and don’t bother, the virus stands a very good chance of bubbling away, and spreading, and surviving, and ( crucially) having the opportunity to mutate. Then we could get a big bite in the collective arse, come winter time.superlightr said:
Mrr T said:
JmatthewB said:
Lord Marylebone said:
Maybe they have thought about it, have learned that being vaccinated helps cut transmission by around 50%, and have decided it is worth it to help society as a whole.
Them having the vaccine and therefore slashing transmission rates will help protect others who cannot have the vaccine for medical reasons.
I think can all see, very clearly, that the only way out if this mess is to vaccinate our way out of it, even those who feel they are at very little risk.
Indeed. I'm young so probably at low risk from Covid, but my biggest worry throughout the pandemic is passing the virus on to someone who is vulnerable. The vaccines don't provide 100% protection, so reducing transmission by having everyone vaccinated is very worthwhile. Them having the vaccine and therefore slashing transmission rates will help protect others who cannot have the vaccine for medical reasons.
I think can all see, very clearly, that the only way out if this mess is to vaccinate our way out of it, even those who feel they are at very little risk.
Well done. Thinking of others is to be admired.
Are you going to require children to take the vaccine as well?
reducing transmission to those that cannot have it? Do we do this currently for others that are immosuppressed? no of course not as its nonsense.
To require the majority to have a vaccine for something that wont affect them to maybe protect somebody they may never meet and is such small numbers to be insignificant but is a risk to the person taking it is nuts.
Dont be afraid. You are easier to control if you are.
Would you make the vaccine compulsory?
Edited by superlightr on Wednesday 12th May 12:31
superlightr said:
Flooble said:
I can also imagine that under-40s might be a little more hesitant to have the jab as the risk/benefit calculation is more nuanced for that age bracket, especially in the light of the lack of deaths and low numbers of hospital admissions.
It was probably a bit of a mistake to give out the latest guidance that AZ wasn't preferred for under-40s, without explicitly saying one way or the other. If you were 31 you might justifiably wonder what you would be offered if you turned up and whether it might be better to wait until you could be certain of a non-AZ jab.
It's also possible that the under-40s are just bypassing the booking system and getting jabbed anyway so there's a tacit acceptance by the government.
None of us really have the information to know what's really happening of course.
If the under 40's and actually thought about it they may well come to the conclusion there is fek all risk to them of covid and question the need to even have this experimental vaccine.It was probably a bit of a mistake to give out the latest guidance that AZ wasn't preferred for under-40s, without explicitly saying one way or the other. If you were 31 you might justifiably wonder what you would be offered if you turned up and whether it might be better to wait until you could be certain of a non-AZ jab.
It's also possible that the under-40s are just bypassing the booking system and getting jabbed anyway so there's a tacit acceptance by the government.
None of us really have the information to know what's really happening of course.
We do know whats happening - look at the age/death charts. its fek all if you are under 40.
Vasco said:
superlightr said:
Flooble said:
I can also imagine that under-40s might be a little more hesitant to have the jab as the risk/benefit calculation is more nuanced for that age bracket, especially in the light of the lack of deaths and low numbers of hospital admissions.
It was probably a bit of a mistake to give out the latest guidance that AZ wasn't preferred for under-40s, without explicitly saying one way or the other. If you were 31 you might justifiably wonder what you would be offered if you turned up and whether it might be better to wait until you could be certain of a non-AZ jab.
It's also possible that the under-40s are just bypassing the booking system and getting jabbed anyway so there's a tacit acceptance by the government.
None of us really have the information to know what's really happening of course.
If the under 40's and actually thought about it they may well come to the conclusion there is fek all risk to them of covid and question the need to even have this experimental vaccine.It was probably a bit of a mistake to give out the latest guidance that AZ wasn't preferred for under-40s, without explicitly saying one way or the other. If you were 31 you might justifiably wonder what you would be offered if you turned up and whether it might be better to wait until you could be certain of a non-AZ jab.
It's also possible that the under-40s are just bypassing the booking system and getting jabbed anyway so there's a tacit acceptance by the government.
None of us really have the information to know what's really happening of course.
We do know whats happening - look at the age/death charts. its fek all if you are under 40.
Maximus_Meridius101 said:
superlightr said:
If the under 40's and actually thought about it they may well come to the conclusion there is fek all risk to them of covid and question the need to even have this experimental vaccine.
We do know whats happening - look at the age/death charts. its fek all if you are under 40.
A really great way of keeping this whole thing going, is to take this viewpoint. The data suggests that the vaccines are sanitising, so they stop severe illness, and prevent transmission. If the younger age groups think ‘Nah blud the vaccines are sWe do know whats happening - look at the age/death charts. its fek all if you are under 40.
t innit and I ain’t gettin Covid or nuffink anyway’ and don’t bother, the virus stands a very good chance of bubbling away, and spreading, and surviving, and ( crucially) having the opportunity to mutate. Then we could get a big bite in the collective arse, come winter time.Dont be afraid.
Viruses mutate its what they do. they have since time started. Humans have also developed and our bodies cope well with many such viruses which is why there are so many humans alive.
If you are vulnerable then have the vaccine protect yourself or if you are scared and it makes you feel safer then have it. But dont fool yourself that you are doing it to protect others. Dont require those that dont want or need it to have it - Its nonsense.
Too much damage has already been done to society because of the disproportionate action of the govt and scare tactics. Dont be scared.
Edited by superlightr on Wednesday 12th May 13:52
superlightr said:
I consider the risk personally from Covid to be so incredibly tiny that it isn't worth worrying about and with regards nationwide the action the government took was disproportionate to the risk of covid generally.
I see you didnt respond to if you would require children to be vaccinated or why we dont vaccinate all for the immo suppressed already?
Sorry, I missed the bit about children.I see you didnt respond to if you would require children to be vaccinated or why we dont vaccinate all for the immo suppressed already?
I don't have kids so can't answer the question regarding my own, but I am happy leave that general decision to doctors and those in the medical profession.
If they suggest that it would beneficial to vaccinate children from Covid while they get vaccinated for numerous other things then yes fine, crack on. I'm not a doctor and neither is anyone else in my family, so we just do what is suggested by medical professionals.
I honestly don't know anything about why we do, or do not, vaccinate for all the immune suppressed? Again, I'm not a medical profession. I guess we kind of already do with MMR, Rotovirus, Meningitis, Flu, HPV, etc and suchlike being a mass vaccination program for all kids. I'm pretty sure this helps protect those who cannot be vaccinated themselves.
Sorry if I don't have the answers.
All I can say is, I'm not worried either way. Vaccine or no vaccine, kinds vaccinated or not vaccinated. Not worried. If the medical profession recommend it, I'll do it, because as far as I know, they know more than me about all this.
A brief google tells me that children and adolescents in the UK are currently mass-vaccinated against 18 different illnesses and diseases, and I view covid as yet another vaccine that may be added to the list.
But just to clarify, I'm not scared, I'm not worried, I'm pretty ambivalent about all this. Happy to have the vaccine, not fussed if I don't get it yet.
Added for yet more clarity: I absolutely believe the only way out if this mess is mass vaccination, and it appears to be working, so therefore I support it.
Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 12th May 14:01
youngsyr said:
Nominate this post for the "Troll of the Week" award.
same poster who wrote this, tells you how stable they are.superlightr said:
superlightr said:
you are one of the reasons the govt will get away with anything it wants because you are a sheep,
you wont even resist your liberties being taken away from you.
You are helping to take away everyone's freedoms and rights can you not see this? (you can as you have already said as much yet you still side with them.)
Collaborating with the enemy.
you wont even resist your liberties being taken away from you.
You are helping to take away everyone's freedoms and rights can you not see this? (you can as you have already said as much yet you still side with them.)
Collaborating with the enemy.
Lord Marylebone said:
superlightr said:
I consider the risk personally from Covid to be so incredibly tiny that it isn't worth worrying about and with regards nationwide the action the government took was disproportionate to the risk of covid generally.
I see you didnt respond to if you would require children to be vaccinated or why we dont vaccinate all for the immo suppressed already?
Sorry, I missed the bit about children.I see you didnt respond to if you would require children to be vaccinated or why we dont vaccinate all for the immo suppressed already?
I don't have kids so can't answer the question regarding my own, but I am happy leave that general decision to doctors and those in the medical profession.
If they suggest that it would beneficial to vaccinate children from Covid while they get vaccinated for numerous other things then yes fine, crack on. I'm not a doctor and neither is anyone else in my family, so we just do what is suggested by medical professionals.
I honestly don't know anything about why we do, or do not, vaccinate for all the immune suppressed? Again, I'm not a medical profession. I guess we kind of already do with MMR, Rotovirus, Meningitis, Flu, HPV, vaccines and suchlike being a mass vaccination program for all kids. I'm pretty sure this helps protect those who cannot be vaccinated themselves.
Sorry if I don't have the answers.
All I can say is, I'm not worried either way. Vaccine or no vaccine, kinds vaccinated or not vaccinated. Not worried. If the medical profession recommend it, I'll do it, because as far as I know, they know more than me about all this.
A brief google tells me that children and adolescents in the UK are currently mass-vaccinated against 18 different illnesses and diseases, and I view covid as yet another vaccine that may be added to the list.
But just to clarify, I'm not scared, I'm not worried, I'm pretty ambivalent about all this. Happy to have the vaccine, not fussed if I don't get it yet.
Im fully for personal choice. All vaccines so far are voluntary. Parent can decide what they wish to happen to their children and as adult we have the choice as to what medical procedures we have for ourselves. This is changing and should be resisted.
The age data give a clear and easy chart so that we all can see the ages and deaths and which ages are most at risk. There are so many different charts and graphs which can be confusing, the info given by the govt has been contradictory and misleading hence the above chart as hopefully being non controversial.
So we come to the nub of it all. I would guess many people believe themselves to be at high risk of Covid when in fact they are not. As you get older 60+ then the risk is higher. Children are effectively zero risk.
Vacinces should not be used for people that dont need it. No medical procedure should be done if you dont need it.
Health passports/covid passports - this isn't voluntary in the sense we are used to. It's voluntary with restrictions on your life if you don't have it = massive difference.
The damage the Govt has done by the disproportionate lock down of society is appalling and we all will be reaping the pain of that for decades.
Edited by superlightr on Wednesday 12th May 14:13
Edited by superlightr on Wednesday 12th May 14:14
ch37 said:
NHS Bulletin that 38-39-year-olds in England will be able to book on the central booking system from tomorrow.
fantastic news.When will the 5-9 year olds get theirs?
If you have had you vaccine are you required to have you boosters each year for the rest of your life for your covid passport to remain vaild? what if you miss one will you be blacklisted?
Edited by superlightr on Wednesday 12th May 14:20
Edited by superlightr on Wednesday 12th May 14:21
Edited by superlightr on Wednesday 12th May 14:21
superlightr said:
ch37 said:
NHS Bulletin that 38-39-year-olds in England will be able to book on the central booking system from tomorrow.
fantastic news.When will the 5-9 year olds get theirs?
If you have had you vaccine are you required to have you boosters each year for the rest of your life for your covid passport to remain vaild? what if you miss one will you be blacklisted?
Edited by superlightr on Wednesday 12th May 14:20
Edited by superlightr on Wednesday 12th May 14:21
Edited by superlightr on Wednesday 12th May 14:21
HappyMidget said:
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