How many have been vaccinated so far?
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vaud said:
Anyone had any experience of rebooking via NHS portal?
The local mass site has spaces next week for 2nd jabs, so I'm trying to bring mine forwards.
In "manage you booking" it accepts my NHS number, etc and I chose to be updated by email and text. Choose a time slot and it accepts, then it goes through to a generic vaccination page, and I have had no text or email.
Tied this twice...
I’ve done it twice (managed to bring my forward by a whopping 3 hours) and it normally produces a screen with a reference number, I screenshotted this and it’s a good job as the first time I never received the text or email. Maybe a call to 119 to see what the score is?The local mass site has spaces next week for 2nd jabs, so I'm trying to bring mine forwards.
In "manage you booking" it accepts my NHS number, etc and I chose to be updated by email and text. Choose a time slot and it accepts, then it goes through to a generic vaccination page, and I have had no text or email.
Tied this twice...
vaud said:
Anyone had any experience of rebooking via NHS portal?
The local mass site has spaces next week for 2nd jabs, so I'm trying to bring mine forwards.
In "manage you booking" it accepts my NHS number, etc and I chose to be updated by email and text. Choose a time slot and it accepts, then it goes through to a generic vaccination page, and I have had no text or email.
Tied this twice...
I used it on Thursday to get a new booking for yesterday (Friday).The local mass site has spaces next week for 2nd jabs, so I'm trying to bring mine forwards.
In "manage you booking" it accepts my NHS number, etc and I chose to be updated by email and text. Choose a time slot and it accepts, then it goes through to a generic vaccination page, and I have had no text or email.
Tied this twice...
I didn't know my NHS number so I used a slightly different process. I clicked "Manage by booking" and then entered my name/DOB/postcode etc. Then I entered the reference number for the original 2nd jab booking (it said it would accept either the 1st or 2nd jab references, but I found only the 2nd one worked).
Then I had to cancel that booking. After which it would allow a new booking to be made. When I checked there was stacks of AZN booking availability - I literally had a completely free choice of times for the following day.
So might be worth retrying the process but using the process for those who don't know their NHS number.
EddieSteadyGo said:
I used it on Thursday to get a new booking for yesterday (Friday).
I didn't know my NHS number so I used a slightly different process. I clicked "Manage by booking" and then entered my name/DOB/postcode etc. Then I entered the reference number for the original 2nd jab booking (it said it would accept either the 1st or 2nd jab references, but I found only the 2nd one worked).
Then I had to cancel that booking. After which it would allow a new booking to be made. When I checked there was stacks of AZN booking availability - I literally had a completely free choice of times for the following day.
So might be worth retrying the process but using the process for those who don't know their NHS number.
Brilliant - thank you - that worked. Avoiding NHS number and using other details found it and I have confirmation for Wednesday.I didn't know my NHS number so I used a slightly different process. I clicked "Manage by booking" and then entered my name/DOB/postcode etc. Then I entered the reference number for the original 2nd jab booking (it said it would accept either the 1st or 2nd jab references, but I found only the 2nd one worked).
Then I had to cancel that booking. After which it would allow a new booking to be made. When I checked there was stacks of AZN booking availability - I literally had a completely free choice of times for the following day.
So might be worth retrying the process but using the process for those who don't know their NHS number.
Had first one in central Bradford but it was a very depressing experience (see Bradford ) so instead I get a longer but much nicer drive out to Skipton plus the afternoon off work.
So it's lunch in Skipton, jab, and the very long way home via upper Wharfedale in my (yes it's Pistonheads) MX5.
vaud said:
EddieSteadyGo said:
I used it on Thursday to get a new booking for yesterday (Friday).
I didn't know my NHS number so I used a slightly different process. I clicked "Manage by booking" and then entered my name/DOB/postcode etc. Then I entered the reference number for the original 2nd jab booking (it said it would accept either the 1st or 2nd jab references, but I found only the 2nd one worked).
Then I had to cancel that booking. After which it would allow a new booking to be made. When I checked there was stacks of AZN booking availability - I literally had a completely free choice of times for the following day.
So might be worth retrying the process but using the process for those who don't know their NHS number.
Brilliant - thank you - that worked. Avoiding NHS number and using other details found it and I have confirmation for Wednesday.I didn't know my NHS number so I used a slightly different process. I clicked "Manage by booking" and then entered my name/DOB/postcode etc. Then I entered the reference number for the original 2nd jab booking (it said it would accept either the 1st or 2nd jab references, but I found only the 2nd one worked).
Then I had to cancel that booking. After which it would allow a new booking to be made. When I checked there was stacks of AZN booking availability - I literally had a completely free choice of times for the following day.
So might be worth retrying the process but using the process for those who don't know their NHS number.
Had first one in central Bradford but it was a very depressing experience (see Bradford ) so instead I get a longer but much nicer drive out to Skipton plus the afternoon off work.
So it's lunch in Skipton, jab, and the very long way home via upper Wharfedale in my (yes it's Pistonheads) MX5.
As an aside for those concerned about getting their 2nd AZN dose, I had felt pretty run down for 24 hours after the 1st one. But the nurse at the vaccination centre said the side effects from the 2nd jab should be much less. And she was right - apart from a slightly sore arm, I haven't noticed a thing!
CarlosFandango11 said:
NRS said:
CarlosFandango11 said:
What's going to stop the graph accelerating upwards? If things remain as they are, it will continue exponentially upwards.
Do you not believe in vaccines then?
CarlosFandango11 said:
NRS said:
CarlosFandango11 said:
What's going to stop the graph accelerating upwards? If things remain as they are, it will continue exponentially upwards.
Do you not believe in vaccines then?
NRS said:
We're somewhere around 90% of people with antibodies, it's going to struggle to exponential with that. We're likely seeing a combination of an rapid increase from a low number due to opening up with the delta variant infecting mostly those who haven't been jabbed yet. That's a limited number of people.
Given certain patterns in the unvaccinated demographics it might struggle to spread generally, but we'll get some nice scary looking clusters for people to point at. The underlying causes of the clusters will be ignored in favour of blaming a scary new feature of the variant, and untalented mathematician's playing at epidemiology will extrapolate the stats into doomsday. Again.
EddieSteadyGo said:
That's good news!
As an aside for those concerned about getting their 2nd AZN dose, I had felt pretty run down for 24 hours after the 1st one. But the nurse at the vaccination centre said the side effects from the 2nd jab should be much less. And she was right - apart from a slightly sore arm, I haven't noticed a thing!
I had negligible effects from my first one, but for my second my arm wouldn't relax when the jab was going in, probably due to a few hundred press ups the night before, and I ended up with an arm that went stiff and achey for a couple of days. As an aside for those concerned about getting their 2nd AZN dose, I had felt pretty run down for 24 hours after the 1st one. But the nurse at the vaccination centre said the side effects from the 2nd jab should be much less. And she was right - apart from a slightly sore arm, I haven't noticed a thing!
isaldiri said:
CarlosFandango11 said:
NRS said:
CarlosFandango11 said:
What's going to stop the graph accelerating upwards? If things remain as they are, it will continue exponentially upwards.
Do you not believe in vaccines then?
isaldiri said:
CarlosFandango11 said:
NRS said:
CarlosFandango11 said:
What's going to stop the graph accelerating upwards? If things remain as they are, it will continue exponentially upwards.
Do you not believe in vaccines then?
Vaccines work. But currently it’s clear that they’re not preventing an increase in cases and a subsequent increase in ICU occupancy - see the ICU occupancy graph. And bear in mind that there is a time lag between the recent increase in cases and ICU occupancy.
The graph isn’t going to change direction overnight. It will take time and more vaccinations.
Edited by CarlosFandango11 on Saturday 12th June 15:05
Patients in Hospital vs various models
Cases per million 7 days up to Jun 9
Deaths per million 7 days up to Jun 9
Society opening up cf equivalent week 2019
Which gives the question is the increase in infections due to variant or opening up.
As written before, these are similar set of decisions which had to be made back end last year, except now vaccines and vaccinations are where we are. Last year not known if we would get vaccine.
Since the beginning of this I've been going out every day, several times a day, keeping things going on, wheels turning as best possible, plus supporting some shielders with shopping, repairs and stuff. Have been following Govt guidelines as best can, distancing, masks, bla bla bla. Only yesterday was in a local car dealers for a couple of hours mask in place, at their request, when staff were very variable in compliance. Can't bloody wait to get rid of masks for starters, and need to get some projects going that have been on hold. Not desperate to go dining out, or to pub, or off on holibobs. But essentially, now had enough. Will still continue to be a good little boy and "we will obey orders" but mutiny is beckoning. Some will catch it, some will get sick, some will get v poorly, some will fall off perch. Unfortunately this is life.
Cases per million 7 days up to Jun 9
Deaths per million 7 days up to Jun 9
Society opening up cf equivalent week 2019
Which gives the question is the increase in infections due to variant or opening up.
As written before, these are similar set of decisions which had to be made back end last year, except now vaccines and vaccinations are where we are. Last year not known if we would get vaccine.
Since the beginning of this I've been going out every day, several times a day, keeping things going on, wheels turning as best possible, plus supporting some shielders with shopping, repairs and stuff. Have been following Govt guidelines as best can, distancing, masks, bla bla bla. Only yesterday was in a local car dealers for a couple of hours mask in place, at their request, when staff were very variable in compliance. Can't bloody wait to get rid of masks for starters, and need to get some projects going that have been on hold. Not desperate to go dining out, or to pub, or off on holibobs. But essentially, now had enough. Will still continue to be a good little boy and "we will obey orders" but mutiny is beckoning. Some will catch it, some will get sick, some will get v poorly, some will fall off perch. Unfortunately this is life.
CarlosFandango11 said:
Did you read what I said? Or look at the graph in any detail? I haven’t said it will continue to accelerate upwards like in December 2020. And it’s a graph of ICU occupancy not hospitalisation.
Vaccines work. But currently it’s clear that they’re not preventing an increase in cases and a subsequent increase in ICU occupancy - see the ICU occupancy graph. And bear in mind that there is a time lag between the recent increase in cases and ICU occupancy.
The graph isn’t going to change direction overnight. It will take time and more vaccinations.
Well why then have you been continually banging on about how numbers are 'accelerating upwards exponentially' then if not to suggest it will follow Dec20....? Vaccines work. But currently it’s clear that they’re not preventing an increase in cases and a subsequent increase in ICU occupancy - see the ICU occupancy graph. And bear in mind that there is a time lag between the recent increase in cases and ICU occupancy.
The graph isn’t going to change direction overnight. It will take time and more vaccinations.
All over 50s are pretty much double jabbed now - they are the ones that have overwhelmingly made up the bulk of the hospitalisations and ICU capacity so far in Apr20 and Jan 21. If you believe the vaccines will work, there is an effective cap on the number of people that will end up in hospital and ICU. That number (if again you believe the vaccines work) should be below what the healthcare system should be able to support.
And ultimately more vaccinations isn't going to stop the virus from circulating no matter how much you wish it to by jabbing up anyone and everyone regardless of risk/age. It almost certainly will not provide long term sterilising immunity. The risk of older people even if double jabbed is still going to be higher than much younger people who are not vaccinated. Numbers of 'cases' and even hospitalisations etc going up is inevitable at some point as we end up living with the virus over time unless you think eradication is possible but simply that they happen at levels that are acceptable.
isaldiri said:
Out of interest - Would you reconsider that if second AZN doses continue show ViTT at the same rate as first doses? So far it's unfortunately tracking first dose rates much more closely than one would have hoped despite the mhra statement last week seeming quite confident second doses would be less likely to show the same issue (which so far imo is not obviously supported by the current data).
Apologies chap, missed this, but I'd need to see some fairly comprehensive and compelling safety data first if I was going to start going outside manufacturers guidelines and taking cocktails of vaccines. Also from what I can tell at my age I'm equally at risk of the Pfizer jab causing heart issues as the AZN jab causing clotting, so there doesn't seem a huge advantage mixing imo. Obviously it's a personal decision based on everyone's individual circumstances, and as long as it doesn't give people 6G or 3 heads then I'm not entirely opposed to it being trialled, just not on me
Of course in an ideal world I'd just be having my first AZ jab as a booster for previous infection and cracking on, we're a bit far through the looking glass for that now sadly.
bodhi said:
Apologies chap, missed this, but I'd need to see some fairly comprehensive and compelling safety data first if I was going to start going outside manufacturers guidelines and taking cocktails of vaccines. Also from what I can tell at my age I'm equally at risk of the Pfizer jab causing heart issues as the AZN jab causing clotting, so there doesn't seem a huge advantage mixing imo.
Obviously it's a personal decision based on everyone's individual circumstances, and as long as it doesn't give people 6G or 3 heads then I'm not entirely opposed to it being trialled, just not on me
Of course in an ideal world I'd just be having my first AZ jab as a booster for previous infection and cracking on, we're a bit far through the looking glass for that now sadly.
Np thanks for the reply. Not so much for me but my my brother did ask me if it was worth switching and I wanted to see what someone else reasonably sensible about the whole mess here ie you Obviously it's a personal decision based on everyone's individual circumstances, and as long as it doesn't give people 6G or 3 heads then I'm not entirely opposed to it being trialled, just not on me
Of course in an ideal world I'd just be having my first AZ jab as a booster for previous infection and cracking on, we're a bit far through the looking glass for that now sadly.
(mostly) thought. isaldiri said:
CarlosFandango11 said:
Did you read what I said? Or look at the graph in any detail? I haven’t said it will continue to accelerate upwards like in December 2020. And it’s a graph of ICU occupancy not hospitalisation.
Vaccines work. But currently it’s clear that they’re not preventing an increase in cases and a subsequent increase in ICU occupancy - see the ICU occupancy graph. And bear in mind that there is a time lag between the recent increase in cases and ICU occupancy.
The graph isn’t going to change direction overnight. It will take time and more vaccinations.
Well why then have you been continually banging on about how numbers are 'accelerating upwards exponentially' then if not to suggest it will follow Dec20....? Vaccines work. But currently it’s clear that they’re not preventing an increase in cases and a subsequent increase in ICU occupancy - see the ICU occupancy graph. And bear in mind that there is a time lag between the recent increase in cases and ICU occupancy.
The graph isn’t going to change direction overnight. It will take time and more vaccinations.
All over 50s are pretty much double jabbed now - they are the ones that have overwhelmingly made up the bulk of the hospitalisations and ICU capacity so far in Apr20 and Jan 21. If you believe the vaccines will work, there is an effective cap on the number of people that will end up in hospital and ICU. That number (if again you believe the vaccines work) should be below what the healthcare system should be able to support.
And ultimately more vaccinations isn't going to stop the virus from circulating no matter how much you wish it to by jabbing up anyone and everyone regardless of risk/age. It almost certainly will not provide long term sterilising immunity. The risk of older people even if double jabbed is still going to be higher than much younger people who are not vaccinated. Numbers of 'cases' and even hospitalisations etc going up is inevitable at some point as we end up living with the virus over time unless you think eradication is possible but simply that they happen at levels that are acceptable.
I’m not sure if it’s just media nonsense, but I saw an article the other day saying hospitals need to start focusing on separating the people in hospital because of Covid, and those who are there with Covid. With high vaccine uptake it will become a far bigger impact on the numbers over time. There’s a difference in what we should do as a society going forward between people who are in due to bad Covid, versus in hospital for say a minor operation who have a mild case of it at the same time. Both cases would appear in people in hospital that are positive for Covid, hence needing to split the 2 scenarios properly.
first second total
254,185 320,326 574511
percentage jabbed first 78.9 second 56.6
This is interesting from Dorset...
Over 68% of second jabs completed compared to the UK average of 56.6% probably due to the age of our population...Once again it looks like we are going to be denied our freedom because of the large towns and cities.
254,185 320,326 574511
percentage jabbed first 78.9 second 56.6
This is interesting from Dorset...
Over 68% of second jabs completed compared to the UK average of 56.6% probably due to the age of our population...Once again it looks like we are going to be denied our freedom because of the large towns and cities.
Vanden Saab said:
first second total
254,185 320,326 574511
percentage jabbed first 78.9 second 56.6
This is interesting from Dorset...
Over 68% of second jabs completed compared to the UK average of 56.6% probably due to the age of our population...Once again it looks like we are going to be denied our freedom because of the large towns and cities.
81/65% where I am. Case rate flat, deaths rare as rocking horse plop, very few in hospital. The collective punishment is getting old fast.254,185 320,326 574511
percentage jabbed first 78.9 second 56.6
This is interesting from Dorset...
Over 68% of second jabs completed compared to the UK average of 56.6% probably due to the age of our population...Once again it looks like we are going to be denied our freedom because of the large towns and cities.
Vanden Saab said:
first second total
254,185 320,326 574511
percentage jabbed first 78.9 second 56.6
This is interesting from Dorset...
Over 68% of second jabs completed compared to the UK average of 56.6% probably due to the age of our population...Once again it looks like we are going to be denied our freedom because of the large towns and cities.
It’s only some few areas in a few towns, and seems to be driven in large part by some ethnic groups / communities with much lower uptake than others.254,185 320,326 574511
percentage jabbed first 78.9 second 56.6
This is interesting from Dorset...
Over 68% of second jabs completed compared to the UK average of 56.6% probably due to the age of our population...Once again it looks like we are going to be denied our freedom because of the large towns and cities.
I’m not really comfortable seeing my family in rural Northumberland having to continue to face restrictions because of some refuseniks in Batley.
Northernboy said:
It’s only some few areas in a few towns, and seems to be driven in large part by some ethnic groups / communities with much lower uptake than others.
I’m not really comfortable seeing my family in rural Northumberland having to continue to face restrictions because of some refuseniks in Batley.
Kirklees (Batley) is currently 73/53.I’m not really comfortable seeing my family in rural Northumberland having to continue to face restrictions because of some refuseniks in Batley.
That's actually higher than the leafy Tory shire I live in (68/50). Bloody farmers
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