How many have been vaccinated so far?
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In answer to the original question, the answer is enough to flatten admissions and hospital occupancy
Percentage of adults jabbed is currently
83.7% first 61.2% second
Three weeks ago, which is crudely how long is required for effectiveness the percentages were
76.2% first 51.6% second
I'll take an educated guess that come the 19th of July we'll be good to release all restrictions without anything objectionable* happenning.
Percentage of adults jabbed is currently
83.7% first 61.2% second
Three weeks ago, which is crudely how long is required for effectiveness the percentages were
76.2% first 51.6% second
I'll take an educated guess that come the 19th of July we'll be good to release all restrictions without anything objectionable* happenning.
- I'm well aware that there are people that will object to anything, but I'm referring to those with common sense.
spikeyhead said:
In answer to the original question, the answer is enough to flatten admissions and hospital occupancy
Percentage of adults jabbed is currently
83.7% first 61.2% second
Three weeks ago, which is crudely how long is required for effectiveness the percentages were
76.2% first 51.6% second
I'll take an educated guess that come the 19th of July we'll be good to release all restrictions without anything objectionable* happenning.
Having just been a guest of the emergency ward in Southend they are busy but no sign of any covid patients or come to that covid precautions.Percentage of adults jabbed is currently
83.7% first 61.2% second
Three weeks ago, which is crudely how long is required for effectiveness the percentages were
76.2% first 51.6% second
I'll take an educated guess that come the 19th of July we'll be good to release all restrictions without anything objectionable* happenning.
- I'm well aware that there are people that will object to anything, but I'm referring to those with common sense.
I doubt there's much risk of hospitals becoming a major problem any longer and it just being about whether we are welcome anywhere else.
MOTORVATOR said:
I doubt there's much risk of hospitals becoming a major problem any longer and it just being about whether we are welcome anywhere else.
Playing for time I expect, they'll get it as well eventually but hopefully they'll be further down the road in terms of vaccinations.Have we actually located the index case for the Indian/Delta variant? The UK required mandatory screening and self isolation, with passengers from India required to attend government run isolation hotels, so there must have been some lapse. This won't be the last variant so it's important to understand where the weaknesses are to prevent a repeat next time.
Maximus_Meridius101 said:
Something like 50 admissions have been double jabbed now. That’s a bit worrying.
It would seem likely that is within the tolerance expected:"Data from Public Health England...have shown that single doses of the AstraZeneca and Pfizer vaccines have a reduced efficacy of 33% against infections with the Delta variant, compared with over 85% against the original strain in clinical trials. For those fully vaccinated, the AstraZeneca vaccine also saw a reduction in efficacy—from 67% against the Alpha variant to 60% against Delta—but not to as alarming a degree. The PHE also found that both these vaccines were over 90% effective in reducing hospitalizations and serious disease."
However the lack of deaths indicates the vaccine is working, even against new variants. Only circa 60% of the population have been fully vaccinated at this point so there is still a lot more runway for improvement.
Matty3 said:
Roman Rhodes said:
Matty3 said:
Roman Rhodes said:
Matty3 said:
abzmike said:
Matty3 said:
Best of luck to you jabbed peeps. 3 folk I know were admitted to hospital within 3 days of their first jab, dont know one person who has been admitted with 'first degree' Covid of whatever mutation. Delaying my jabbing until it is approved in 2023, think I will pass even then.
Presumably you expect to enjoy the benefits of 80% of the population being jabbed?You really do need to research the facts.
coming soon. Where are you getting your ideas about twice yearly vaccine top-up? Voices in your head or more random loons on the internet? Show your “research”.
Tankrizzo said:
I'm alive because of the "pharma industry", so yeah I will put my faith in that rather than the fruit loops on the internet who think they're enlightened because they read a Facebook post about a killer vaccine.
Better source then Facebook :https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronav...
171k adverse events.
speedy_thrills said:
Have we actually located the index case for the Indian/Delta variant? The UK required mandatory screening and self isolation, with passengers from India required to attend government run isolation hotels, so there must have been some lapse. This won't be the last variant so it's important to understand where the weaknesses are to prevent a repeat next time.
Identified the index case? Are you joking?India didn't go onto the 'red list' until the end of April. During April, the BBC reported that 5% of arrivals from India into the UK were PCR positive. During that period we had tens of thousands of people arrive from India into the country, if you count together those who came directly and those who arrived via indirect routes.
Many of those arriving live in multi-generational households, which we know can make proper self-isolating difficult. Plus the government were still saying at the time the official symptoms of covid were dry cough, fever etc. Whereas the delta variant symptoms are sore throat, runny nose and a headache. Therefore many of those infected won't have realised and perhaps therefore were less careful.
DaveV6 said:
You know full well the vaccines are under emergency approval and stage 3 testing is not due to finish until 2023.
So stop trying to spread false covid information as its not allowed on social media.
So they are approved then? By the way drugs aren’t approved they are authorised. If everyone thought they would wait until 2023 we would be in lockdown until 2024. Presumably that would be ok with you?So stop trying to spread false covid information as its not allowed on social media.
DaveV6 said:
Oops its been a while since I checked, guess with all these test subjects they have loads of data.
Still under temporary authorisation though isn't it.
Who are AZ, Pfizer etc. going to sell the vaccine to other than the government? Why would they bother applying for marketing authorisation anytime soon when their only likely customer is HMG?Still under temporary authorisation though isn't it.
dmahon said:
Tankrizzo said:
I'm alive because of the "pharma industry", so yeah I will put my faith in that rather than the fruit loops on the internet who think they're enlightened because they read a Facebook post about a killer vaccine.
Better source then Facebook :https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronav...
171k adverse events.
your link says said:
For all COVID-19 vaccines, the overwhelming majority of reports relate to injection-site reactions (sore arm for example) and generalised symptoms such as ‘flu-like’ illness, headache, chills, fatigue (tiredness), nausea (feeling sick), fever, dizziness, weakness, aching muscles, and rapid heartbeat. Generally, these happen shortly after the vaccination and are not associated with more serious or lasting illness.
These types of reactions reflect the normal immune response triggered by the body to the vaccines. They are typically seen with most types of vaccine and tend to resolve within a day or two. The nature of reported suspected side effects is broadly similar across age groups, although, as was seen in clinical trials and as is usually seen with other vaccines, they may be reported more frequently in younger adults.
Hmmm, slightly less scary.These types of reactions reflect the normal immune response triggered by the body to the vaccines. They are typically seen with most types of vaccine and tend to resolve within a day or two. The nature of reported suspected side effects is broadly similar across age groups, although, as was seen in clinical trials and as is usually seen with other vaccines, they may be reported more frequently in younger adults.
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