Coronavirus - Data Analysis Thread
Discussion
Update following the release of the weekly ONS report on deaths in England and Wales.
1. Week 17 is the 9th consecutive week where all cause deaths were normal or below average:
2. There were 140 deaths 'due to' COVID in week 17, which represents just 1.44% of all cause deaths. This is also the second week in a row where almost a third of COVID deaths were not actually 'due to' COVID:
I maintain that we ceased to be in an emergency at the end of February 2021.
1. Week 17 is the 9th consecutive week where all cause deaths were normal or below average:
2. There were 140 deaths 'due to' COVID in week 17, which represents just 1.44% of all cause deaths. This is also the second week in a row where almost a third of COVID deaths were not actually 'due to' COVID:
I maintain that we ceased to be in an emergency at the end of February 2021.
vaud said:
RSTurboPaul said:
30m people?
My bad.It was 14,566,163 for 2019/20. Still, that is a lot of people.
Or more, when the
Good job the NHS hasn't got a ten year backlog of appointments to clear.
RSTurboPaul said:
So an annual booster jab, spaced out so it wasn't given at the same time as a flu jab (because complication risk) would mean 45 million separate jab appointments being required?
Or more, when thegullible unquestioning members of the younger cohort are also jabbed up?
Good job the NHS hasn't got a ten year backlog of appointments to clear.
Not impossible. Or more, when the
Good job the NHS hasn't got a ten year backlog of appointments to clear.
Many are not administered by the core NHS anyway so not taking away capacity from any backlog.
Kids are done in school by trained nurses. Pharmacies do some. GPs do some (nurse led, not doctors).
Large pharmacies with additional staff will scale up as they have now. You will book in for a vaccine online and rock up.
No big deal.
vaud said:
RSTurboPaul said:
So an annual booster jab, spaced out so it wasn't given at the same time as a flu jab (because complication risk) would mean 45 million separate jab appointments being required?
Or more, when thegullible unquestioning members of the younger cohort are also jabbed up?
Good job the NHS hasn't got a ten year backlog of appointments to clear.
Not impossible. Or more, when the
Good job the NHS hasn't got a ten year backlog of appointments to clear.
Many are not administered by the core NHS anyway so not taking away capacity from any backlog.
Kids are done in school by trained nurses. Pharmacies do some. GPs do some (nurse led, not doctors).
Large pharmacies with additional staff will scale up as they have now. You will book in for a vaccine online and rock up.
No big deal.
That's the catchphrase for everything rolled out during this pandemic...
Anyway, not much data analysis going on so we should retire for the evening
lol
RSTurboPaul said:
No biggie?
That's the catchphrase for everything rolled out during this pandemic...
Anyway, not much data analysis going on so we should retire for the evening lol
OK, so from a data perspective it has already been proven that we can significantly increase capacity of jabs with a combination of GP and mass centre vaccination, with minimal impact to the core NHS. It just might cost, but that I think will be mitigated as many already pay for a flu jab and the CV19 jab will become part of the norm.That's the catchphrase for everything rolled out during this pandemic...
Anyway, not much data analysis going on so we should retire for the evening
lolvaud said:
RSTurboPaul said:
No biggie?
That's the catchphrase for everything rolled out during this pandemic...
Anyway, not much data analysis going on so we should retire for the evening lol
OK, so from a data perspective it has already been proven that we can significantly increase capacity of jabs with a combination of GP and mass centre vaccination, with minimal impact to the core NHS. It just might cost, but that I think will be mitigated as many already pay for a flu jab and the CV19 jab will become part of the norm.That's the catchphrase for everything rolled out during this pandemic...
Anyway, not much data analysis going on so we should retire for the evening
lolRSTurboPaul said:
vaud said:
RSTurboPaul said:
No biggie?
That's the catchphrase for everything rolled out during this pandemic...
Anyway, not much data analysis going on so we should retire for the evening lol
OK, so from a data perspective it has already been proven that we can significantly increase capacity of jabs with a combination of GP and mass centre vaccination, with minimal impact to the core NHS. It just might cost, but that I think will be mitigated as many already pay for a flu jab and the CV19 jab will become part of the norm.That's the catchphrase for everything rolled out during this pandemic...
Anyway, not much data analysis going on so we should retire for the evening
lolPurely academic but something my idle mind has just pondered, I wonder what has happened to the birth rate since about September last year. I use Sept as that is the 9 month point, babies born before that would be conceived pre lockdown1. I know it's not really important but it has crossed my mind, excess deaths versus a plus or minus birthrate?
Elysium said:
panholio said:
Cases do seem to be showing a slight uptick based on today’s data catching up the lag.
Probably to be expected.
I think we should expect an increase in the coming weeks, but I’m not seeing it yet:Probably to be expected.
Also, have you tried do download any death or new case data from the government coronavirus site that’s split by age demographic? The files that I get when I try turns out to be empty. I was curious to see if there had been a change in the age demographics of new cases following the vaccine rollout.
W124Bob said:
Purely academic but something my idle mind has just pondered, I wonder what has happened to the birth rate since about September last year. I use Sept as that is the 9 month point, babies born before that would be conceived pre lockdown1. I know it's not really important but it has crossed my mind, excess deaths versus a plus or minus birthrate?
The data will be on the ONS website but IIRC:- birth rates are down
- death rates are up (obvs)
- the net result of this 'world ending' virus is that the population has grown in the UK this past year
RSTurboPaul said:
W124Bob said:
Purely academic but something my idle mind has just pondered, I wonder what has happened to the birth rate since about September last year. I use Sept as that is the 9 month point, babies born before that would be conceived pre lockdown1. I know it's not really important but it has crossed my mind, excess deaths versus a plus or minus birthrate?
The data will be on the ONS website but IIRC:- birth rates are down
- death rates are up (obvs)
- the net result of this 'world ending' virus is that the population has grown in the UK this past year
You’re the first person to make this claim that I’m aware of.
CarlosFandango11 said:
RSTurboPaul said:
W124Bob said:
Purely academic but something my idle mind has just pondered, I wonder what has happened to the birth rate since about September last year. I use Sept as that is the 9 month point, babies born before that would be conceived pre lockdown1. I know it's not really important but it has crossed my mind, excess deaths versus a plus or minus birthrate?
The data will be on the ONS website but IIRC:- birth rates are down
- death rates are up (obvs)
- the net result of this 'world ending' virus is that the population has grown in the UK this past year
You’re the first person to make this claim that I’m aware of.
RSTurboPaul said:
CarlosFandango11 said:
RSTurboPaul said:
W124Bob said:
Purely academic but something my idle mind has just pondered, I wonder what has happened to the birth rate since about September last year. I use Sept as that is the 9 month point, babies born before that would be conceived pre lockdown1. I know it's not really important but it has crossed my mind, excess deaths versus a plus or minus birthrate?
The data will be on the ONS website but IIRC:- birth rates are down
- death rates are up (obvs)
- the net result of this 'world ending' virus is that the population has grown in the UK this past year
You’re the first person to make this claim that I’m aware of.
CarlosFandango11 said:
RSTurboPaul said:
CarlosFandango11 said:
RSTurboPaul said:
W124Bob said:
Purely academic but something my idle mind has just pondered, I wonder what has happened to the birth rate since about September last year. I use Sept as that is the 9 month point, babies born before that would be conceived pre lockdown1. I know it's not really important but it has crossed my mind, excess deaths versus a plus or minus birthrate?
The data will be on the ONS website but IIRC:- birth rates are down
- death rates are up (obvs)
- the net result of this 'world ending' virus is that the population has grown in the UK this past year
You’re the first person to make this claim that I’m aware of.
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