Coronavirus - Data Analysis Thread

Coronavirus - Data Analysis Thread

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Elysium

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13,849 posts

188 months

Wednesday 11th August 2021
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1. This shows tests and cases since 1st March. I am beginning to wonder if the recent peak was a rather artificial one, driven by unlocking whilst the Euro's were underway with students still at University. I have added a trendline to show what it would look like if we are returning to the more gentle growth rate observed in May and early June:



2. This effect looks even more obvious if we look at cases per 100k tests:



3. This shows Cases per 100k tests, admissions and deaths with 7 and 14 day lags. Admissions are on a secondary Y axis and deaths are rebased by a factor of 10 to align the curves. Its clear that they are all moving in tandem, albeit the proportion of cases resulting in admission and deaths reduced significantly in May. I believe this is due to the vaccines:



4. Finally, this shows the rolling 7 day total of Cases per 100k Tests and the %age change across those 7 days. When the orange bars are above zero cases are growing. The height of the orange bars shows the rate of change. You can see that the recent slowdown kicked in as we reopened on the 19th July and that it started to bounce back just one week later on the 26th July:



Edited by Elysium on Wednesday 11th August 18:11

Pothole

34,367 posts

283 months

Wednesday 11th August 2021
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You may want to edit this line :

" You can see that the recent slowdown kicked in as we reopened on the 19th July and that it started to bounce back just one week later on the 16th July:"

Elysium

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13,849 posts

188 months

Thursday 12th August 2021
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Pothole said:
You may want to edit this line :

" You can see that the recent slowdown kicked in as we reopened on the 19th July and that it started to bounce back just one week later on the 16th July:"
Done. Thanks.

Elysium

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13,849 posts

188 months

Friday 13th August 2021
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Update on weekly ONS excess deaths

Following 17 straight weeks of below average deaths we began to see deaths above the 5 year average through July 21.

COVID has steadily risen in significance shifting from under 2% of all deaths in week 27 to 4% in week 30.

Excess deaths in the last 4 weeks are about double the total deaths 'due to' COVID in that period. So some other factor is contributing to this. It may be a natural bounce back following months of restrictions or perhaps a deeper signal about long term healthcare disruption. Either way, it is statistically significant as deaths are usually very stable at this time of year.



This graph shows deaths 'due to' COVID vs excess deaths for the entire pandemic. Its interesting to see how the relationship between these metrics has varied over time.


Elysium

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13,849 posts

188 months

Thursday 19th August 2021
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Couple of interesting graphs from @RP131 on Twitter

Cases per 100k tests are flat as a pancake when broken out be each English region:



Cases adjusted for population by age band are neatly stratified. Combination of vaccines working and young people getting out more.




Muncher

12,219 posts

250 months

Thursday 19th August 2021
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Another ONS antibody prevalence update released today.

They have revised downwards their projections for previous months, (down 0.6% on their last modelled figure for 12 July), but again the we are up to 94.2% of adults in England having antibodies as at 26 July.


Ashfordian

2,057 posts

90 months

Thursday 19th August 2021
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Muncher said:
Another ONS antibody prevalence update released today.

They have revised downwards their projections for previous months, (down 0.6% on their last modelled figure for 12 July), but again the we are up to 94.2% of adults in England having antibodies as at 26 July.

Do you know if their model takes into account waning immunity from the vaccine?

Smollet

10,609 posts

191 months

Thursday 19th August 2021
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Ashfordian said:
Muncher said:
Another ONS antibody prevalence update released today.

They have revised downwards their projections for previous months, (down 0.6% on their last modelled figure for 12 July), but again the we are up to 94.2% of adults in England having antibodies as at 26 July.

Do you know if their model takes into account waning immunity from the vaccine?
I'm curious to know what data exists to show waning immunity in the vaccinated.

Ashfordian

2,057 posts

90 months

Thursday 19th August 2021
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Smollet said:
Ashfordian said:
Muncher said:
Another ONS antibody prevalence update released today.

They have revised downwards their projections for previous months, (down 0.6% on their last modelled figure for 12 July), but again the we are up to 94.2% of adults in England having antibodies as at 26 July.

Do you know if their model takes into account waning immunity from the vaccine?
I'm curious to know what data exists to show waning immunity in the vaccinated.
This is in the UK news today - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58257863

Israel seems to be the 'canary in the mine' regarding all this and they are reporting efficacy on early vaccinations, hence the boosters, is way down. The data behind the actions still seems to be speculative rather than officially published.

Elysium

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13,849 posts

188 months

Thursday 19th August 2021
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Ashfordian said:
Smollet said:
Ashfordian said:
Muncher said:
Another ONS antibody prevalence update released today.

They have revised downwards their projections for previous months, (down 0.6% on their last modelled figure for 12 July), but again the we are up to 94.2% of adults in England having antibodies as at 26 July.

Do you know if their model takes into account waning immunity from the vaccine?
I'm curious to know what data exists to show waning immunity in the vaccinated.
This is in the UK news today - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58257863

Israel seems to be the 'canary in the mine' regarding all this and they are reporting efficacy on early vaccinations, hence the boosters, is way down. The data behind the actions still seems to be speculative rather than officially published.
This is from the US:

https://twitter.com/davidwdowdy/status/14280997758...



The older people in their sample, who were jabbed first, are not seeing any reduction in vaccine efficacy over time. However this does seem apparent in younger age groups, which in turn shows up in the overall picture

This suggests that this may be a social, rather than biological effect. Increases in infection because precautions are being abandoned amongst the young as society returns to normal.




Muncher

12,219 posts

250 months

Thursday 19th August 2021
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Ashfordian said:
Muncher said:
Another ONS antibody prevalence update released today.

They have revised downwards their projections for previous months, (down 0.6% on their last modelled figure for 12 July), but again the we are up to 94.2% of adults in England having antibodies as at 26 July.

Do you know if their model takes into account waning immunity from the vaccine?
It will do as they effectively resample the population every 2 weeks, any drop off would show up here.

The pool of adults for whom Covid 19 would be a new thing to their immune system is rapidly diminishing by the day, I think we are only about 5 weeks away from the point where you would really struggle to find any adult in England who didn’t have antibodies.

Biker 1

7,741 posts

120 months

Thursday 19th August 2021
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Muncher said:
It will do as they effectively resample the population every 2 weeks, any drop off would show up here.

The pool of adults for whom Covid 19 would be a new thing to their immune system is rapidly diminishing by the day, I think we are only about 5 weeks away from the point where you would really struggle to find any adult in England who didn’t have antibodies.
Fair enough, but why are cases creeping up over 30k right now? Will there be a sudden downward trend in the next couple of weeks?

Ashfordian

2,057 posts

90 months

Thursday 19th August 2021
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Muncher said:
Ashfordian said:
Muncher said:
Another ONS antibody prevalence update released today.

They have revised downwards their projections for previous months, (down 0.6% on their last modelled figure for 12 July), but again the we are up to 94.2% of adults in England having antibodies as at 26 July.

Do you know if their model takes into account waning immunity from the vaccine?
It will do as they effectively resample the population every 2 weeks, any drop off would show up here.

The pool of adults for whom Covid 19 would be a new thing to their immune system is rapidly diminishing by the day, I think we are only about 5 weeks away from the point where you would really struggle to find any adult in England who didn’t have antibodies.
This info related to this subject was posted on the BBC live news site at 13:26 today:



According to the data an estimated 92.8% of 75 to 79-year-olds in England had Covid-19 antibodies in the latest week, down from 94.4% a month earlier.

For people aged 70 to 75, the figure has dropped from 94.9% to 92.9% over the same period. For those aged 80 and over it has fallen from 92.9% to 92.4%.

loafer123

15,448 posts

216 months

Thursday 19th August 2021
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Biker 1 said:
Fair enough, but why are cases creeping up over 30k right now? Will there be a sudden downward trend in the next couple of weeks?
Having antibodies doesn’t necessarily mean you don’t get it, just that it is usually either mild symptoms or none at all.

Zad

12,704 posts

237 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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This report in the BMJ is relevant: https://www.bmj.com/content/374/bmj.n2074

“There is now quite a lot of evidence that all vaccines are much better at reducing the risk of severe disease than they are at reducing the risk from infection. We now know that vaccination will not stop infection and transmission, [but it does] reduce the risk. The main value of immunisation is in reducing the risk of severe disease and death.”

It isn't a long article, and is worth reading.

NoddyonNitrous

2,122 posts

233 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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Scottish trends not looking good.


chrisgtx

1,196 posts

211 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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Masks working well in Scotland then!
Although it would be interesting to see hospital admission.

strudel

5,888 posts

228 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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Scotland went back to school this week, although I don't think any effect of that would show up yet.

NoddyonNitrous

2,122 posts

233 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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chrisgtx said:
Masks working well in Scotland then!
Although it would be interesting to see hospital admission.
All Scotland hospital admissions, the two week lag should come through any time now:



Edited by NoddyonNitrous on Friday 20th August 11:40

Terminator X

15,105 posts

205 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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All the hand wringers still focusing on cases rofl never have so many people been tested when not even unwell but yeah #cases

TX.