The Right Honourable Matt Hancock MP

The Right Honourable Matt Hancock MP

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williamp

19,271 posts

274 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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bhstewie said:
Lord Marylebone said:
My summary of Hancock:

He is trying his best, bless him, but he is clearly well out of his depth and floundering.

He will absolutely get thrown under the bus as a scapegoat the second it suits BoJo to do it. Hancock has no idea this is coming, but it is.

I think he is one of the more honest and decent politicians we have. Somewhat incompetent but fundamentally decent.
I think there's a lot of truth in this.

Some appalling mistakes but I have to give credit that he appears to be trying and has the decency to look pretty fking haunted by what's happened.
Yes,this. With hinsight, what salary would YOU want to be the health secretary in 2020???

Remember there are may nhs directors on more. Many bbc journs on more, too

numtumfutunch

4,737 posts

139 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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ClaphamGT3 said:
This is the unsayable truth. The reason that the NHS is ‘stretched to breaking point’ by the current Covid situation is 100% down to them. Not the Govt for being incompetent- though that’s not helping - not the public for being ‘selfish’ but the Them for fking away a six month long window to properly prepare for the current situation
Exactly how could the NHS have prepared better?


JagLover

42,490 posts

236 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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If they want to get back some of the money squandered on lockdown they should hold an auction to get to kick Hancock in the nuts. Should make a few hundred million back that way and there will be a long queue outside his office, socially distanced of course.

Claptonian

1,844 posts

141 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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numtumfutunch said:
ClaphamGT3 said:
This is the unsayable truth. The reason that the NHS is ‘stretched to breaking point’ by the current Covid situation is 100% down to them. Not the Govt for being incompetent- though that’s not helping - not the public for being ‘selfish’ but the Them for fking away a six month long window to properly prepare for the current situation
Exactly how could the NHS have prepared better?
Why should he have to detail exactly how they should have done that? Is it his job?

The point is that a difficult winter being incoming was known about for months and nothing seems to have been done to prepare for it. It is for the organisation and those who fund and run it to work out how to prepare. Have they increased capacity to deal with the extra numbers? Were the Nightingales fit for purpose?

andy43

9,733 posts

255 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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williamp said:
bhstewie said:
Lord Marylebone said:
My summary of Hancock:

He is trying his best, bless him, but he is clearly well out of his depth and floundering.

He will absolutely get thrown under the bus as a scapegoat the second it suits BoJo to do it. Hancock has no idea this is coming, but it is.

I think he is one of the more honest and decent politicians we have. Somewhat incompetent but fundamentally decent.
I think there's a lot of truth in this.

Some appalling mistakes but I have to give credit that he appears to be trying and has the decency to look pretty fking haunted by what's happened.
Yes,this. With hinsight, what salary would YOU want to be the health secretary in 2020???

Remember there are may nhs directors on more. Many bbc journs on more, too
I'd agree. Some of the TV interviews he's been on he looked like he hasn't slept for weeks.
Doing his best but he's not the strongest politician by a long way.

Derek Smith

45,755 posts

249 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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Give him credit for his brilliant idea of footballers doing their bit during the Covid crisis. I mean, would Marcus Rashford have done his bit without what Hancock and the rest of the government did?

Greenmantle

1,282 posts

109 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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Should we compare Hancock with his predecessor?
Obviously Jeremy did not have to deal with the Covid B*ll*cks but being in the job for over 8 years is pretty good going.

SS2.

14,466 posts

239 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osgcTSVt7eU

Still makes me laugh, although deeply concerning that the 'gibbering omelette' continues to flounder about, clearly so far out of his depth, yet remains one of our key decision makers.

bitchstewie

51,506 posts

211 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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Derek Smith said:
Give him credit for his brilliant idea of footballers doing their bit during the Covid crisis. I mean, would Marcus Rashford have done his bit without what Hancock and the rest of the government did?
I suspect so yes.

Remember Rashford got the Government to u-turn so it's more a case of the Government doing their bit having been forced to do so by pressure from a footballer.

Crafty_

13,298 posts

201 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest to see Boris throw him under the bus as Lord Marylebone suggests.

Meanwhile, is he just another mouthpeice for Boris ? Javid decided he wouldn't be undermined by Boris being chancellor by proxy and got out. So does Hancock have Boris's respect or is he just a mouthpiece ?

MikeT66

2,681 posts

125 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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JagLover said:
If they want to get back some of the money squandered on lockdown they should hold an auction to get to kick Hancock in the nuts. Should make a few hundred million back that way and there will be a long queue outside his office, socially distanced of course.
I'd even wear a mask, too, if it meant I could get closer for a good aim.

I did say this in the 'People You'd Never Get Tired Of Punching In The Face thread...

MikeT66 said:
In the words of Highlander - there can be only one.

Matt Hancock - for being utterly devoid of any empathy and any moral compass, a p**s-stained sapping sponge for a soul that will sacrifice anything and everyone for advancement and influence.

Never in the field of human history has there been such an odious, obnoxious, oozing fetid foetus of spineless ring-licking, narcissistic pomposity utterly inflated and promoted beyond the slime-strangled pool of stinking semen that it belongs in.

One baseball bat, please. I know it would be like hitting a formless sack of diarrhea-esque st, but I'd have a good fking go.
Looking back, it was a bit out of line - I'm not entirely convinced he has a soul.

In truth (sort of jesting aside) I think, like others, he is way waaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy out of his league at the moment - although his league is probably arranging library books, to be fair, and I'd still have double-check he'd done that right. He should be shelved at the earliest opportunity. Like a poor football manager, he's lost the confidence of the team and the fans, and the bad results keep piling up with bad decisions and reasons piled on top of each other in a shifting, illogical tower.

I hope there is a formal and unbiased public enquiry (yeah, I know) in the near future and his name (along with Johnson, Ferguson, Whitty and Vallance) will be ridiculed and tainted in shame forevermore.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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ettore said:
AJ5641 said:
I don't particularly follow the news or current events, so I actually didn't have any idea who he was until recently. I can however say with confidence that this person has absolutely no idea what they're doing and is completely out of their depth. It makes a mockery of all the hard working healthcare personnel and I feel immensely sorry for them.
...with absolute confidence eh?

Jeez, can you vote?
Absolutely to both questions.

Leftfootwonder

1,117 posts

59 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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He did provide us with some of the best TV of 2020....What a tt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnV9LumDxZk

Murph7355

37,768 posts

257 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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ettore said:
AJ5641 said:
I don't particularly follow the news or current events, so I actually didn't have any idea who he was until recently. I can however say with confidence that this person has absolutely no idea what they're doing and is completely out of their depth. It makes a mockery of all the hard working healthcare personnel and I feel immensely sorry for them.
...with absolute confidence eh?

Jeez, can you vote?
Never mind vote, he should be sending in a job appliction to Boris immediately and we should all countersign.

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

171 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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Leftfootwonder said:
He did provide us with some of the best TV of 2020....What a tt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnV9LumDxZk
I can't say I blame him for letting go, considering the monumental pressure he has been under.

Leftfootwonder

1,117 posts

59 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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Alucidnation said:
Leftfootwonder said:
He did provide us with some of the best TV of 2020....What a tt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnV9LumDxZk
I can't say I blame him for letting go, considering the monumental pressure he has been under.
You thought that was genuine? I thought he was auditioning for next years Panto.

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

171 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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Leftfootwonder said:
Alucidnation said:
Leftfootwonder said:
He did provide us with some of the best TV of 2020....What a tt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnV9LumDxZk
I can't say I blame him for letting go, considering the monumental pressure he has been under.
You thought that was genuine? I thought he was auditioning for next years Panto.
Were you there auditioning the same part?

Brave Fart

5,756 posts

112 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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He sneers at a colleague's question ("I simply won't have it" in response to the Slough MP). He pretends to get emotional on TV. He tells us what is our "civic duty". He's incompetent (Nightingales, anyone?) and is a senior member of a government that, like him, is full of incompetent amateur bluffers with no more idea what to do next than my cat.

The scary thing is, he isn't even the worst of the current bunch. Patel, Jenrick, Sharma, Gove and of course Boris are even worse!

Flip Martian

19,718 posts

191 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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SS2. said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osgcTSVt7eU

Still makes me laugh, although deeply concerning that the 'gibbering omelette' continues to flounder about, clearly so far out of his depth, yet remains one of our key decision makers.
That clip is hysterical. Although that he's one of our most senior politicians makes it rather tragic. He might be a decent man (not really convinced but he might be) - but he's not a statesman. He doesn't inspire confidence, ever look like he knows what he's talking about or has confidence in what he's saying. Why is he even in politics?

We have a government made up of people who do NOT inspire confidence when they speak. At best they often look shifty, uneasy. At worst they look smug and like they never tell the truth. I'd have more confidence actually in a government that admitted they were in a crappy situation and were doing their best, rather than the constant "everything will be great" rubbish they spout when all the evidence has pointed all year long to that not being the case.


Smollet

10,644 posts

191 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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Greenmantle said:
Should we compare Hancock with his predecessor?
Obviously Jeremy did not have to deal with the Covid B*ll*cks but being in the job for over 8 years is pretty good going.
I think if Hunt had been in charge we wouldn't be in quite the same mess as we are now. Probably still be in a mess but just not such a large one.