The Right Honourable Matt Hancock MP
Discussion
Mojooo said:
There was definitely a misprint in the bible.It should have said “ the meak shall inhibit the world”
rxe said:
Ok, here’s an idea. You know how a lot of people in these forums have been saying “winter might be a problem” - mainly because it usually is. Given that we are pretty unqualified in the main, you would have thought that proper NHS managers might have thought of this.
So, the the world where I am in charge, at the beginning of last Uni term, the training for every student nurse and doctor would be tweaked so that the bits on “how to monitor and keep a Covid patient alive” would be prioritised. Nothing added, just reordered. Easy.
Roll on 4 months where we are allegedly facing a crisis, yet they are closing the Nightingales for lack of staff. Right, time to draft the students. Clearly they’d be supervised by proper doctors, but those doctors could look after huge numbers of patients with an army of qualified helpers.
Instead what they have actually done on staffing is, er, nothing.
Gosh that sounds so easy, I wonder why no-one with experience of running a national health service has ever thought of it. So, the the world where I am in charge, at the beginning of last Uni term, the training for every student nurse and doctor would be tweaked so that the bits on “how to monitor and keep a Covid patient alive” would be prioritised. Nothing added, just reordered. Easy.
Roll on 4 months where we are allegedly facing a crisis, yet they are closing the Nightingales for lack of staff. Right, time to draft the students. Clearly they’d be supervised by proper doctors, but those doctors could look after huge numbers of patients with an army of qualified helpers.
Instead what they have actually done on staffing is, er, nothing.
Flip Martian said:
rxe said:
Ok, here’s an idea. You know how a lot of people in these forums have been saying “winter might be a problem” - mainly because it usually is. Given that we are pretty unqualified in the main, you would have thought that proper NHS managers might have thought of this.
So, the the world where I am in charge, at the beginning of last Uni term, the training for every student nurse and doctor would be tweaked so that the bits on “how to monitor and keep a Covid patient alive” would be prioritised. Nothing added, just reordered. Easy.
Roll on 4 months where we are allegedly facing a crisis, yet they are closing the Nightingales for lack of staff. Right, time to draft the students. Clearly they’d be supervised by proper doctors, but those doctors could look after huge numbers of patients with an army of qualified helpers.
Instead what they have actually done on staffing is, er, nothing.
Gosh that sounds so easy, I wonder why no-one with experience of running a national health service has ever thought of it. So, the the world where I am in charge, at the beginning of last Uni term, the training for every student nurse and doctor would be tweaked so that the bits on “how to monitor and keep a Covid patient alive” would be prioritised. Nothing added, just reordered. Easy.
Roll on 4 months where we are allegedly facing a crisis, yet they are closing the Nightingales for lack of staff. Right, time to draft the students. Clearly they’d be supervised by proper doctors, but those doctors could look after huge numbers of patients with an army of qualified helpers.
Instead what they have actually done on staffing is, er, nothing.
hole with both hands and a fking mappurplepenguin said:
Flip Martian said:
rxe said:
Ok, here’s an idea. You know how a lot of people in these forums have been saying “winter might be a problem” - mainly because it usually is. Given that we are pretty unqualified in the main, you would have thought that proper NHS managers might have thought of this.
So, the the world where I am in charge, at the beginning of last Uni term, the training for every student nurse and doctor would be tweaked so that the bits on “how to monitor and keep a Covid patient alive” would be prioritised. Nothing added, just reordered. Easy.
Roll on 4 months where we are allegedly facing a crisis, yet they are closing the Nightingales for lack of staff. Right, time to draft the students. Clearly they’d be supervised by proper doctors, but those doctors could look after huge numbers of patients with an army of qualified helpers.
Instead what they have actually done on staffing is, er, nothing.
Gosh that sounds so easy, I wonder why no-one with experience of running a national health service has ever thought of it. So, the the world where I am in charge, at the beginning of last Uni term, the training for every student nurse and doctor would be tweaked so that the bits on “how to monitor and keep a Covid patient alive” would be prioritised. Nothing added, just reordered. Easy.
Roll on 4 months where we are allegedly facing a crisis, yet they are closing the Nightingales for lack of staff. Right, time to draft the students. Clearly they’d be supervised by proper doctors, but those doctors could look after huge numbers of patients with an army of qualified helpers.
Instead what they have actually done on staffing is, er, nothing.
hole with both hands and a fking mapEverything comes back to government, ultimately.
Flip Martian said:
purplepenguin said:
Flip Martian said:
rxe said:
Ok, here’s an idea. You know how a lot of people in these forums have been saying “winter might be a problem” - mainly because it usually is. Given that we are pretty unqualified in the main, you would have thought that proper NHS managers might have thought of this.
So, the the world where I am in charge, at the beginning of last Uni term, the training for every student nurse and doctor would be tweaked so that the bits on “how to monitor and keep a Covid patient alive” would be prioritised. Nothing added, just reordered. Easy.
Roll on 4 months where we are allegedly facing a crisis, yet they are closing the Nightingales for lack of staff. Right, time to draft the students. Clearly they’d be supervised by proper doctors, but those doctors could look after huge numbers of patients with an army of qualified helpers.
Instead what they have actually done on staffing is, er, nothing.
Gosh that sounds so easy, I wonder why no-one with experience of running a national health service has ever thought of it. So, the the world where I am in charge, at the beginning of last Uni term, the training for every student nurse and doctor would be tweaked so that the bits on “how to monitor and keep a Covid patient alive” would be prioritised. Nothing added, just reordered. Easy.
Roll on 4 months where we are allegedly facing a crisis, yet they are closing the Nightingales for lack of staff. Right, time to draft the students. Clearly they’d be supervised by proper doctors, but those doctors could look after huge numbers of patients with an army of qualified helpers.
Instead what they have actually done on staffing is, er, nothing.
hole with both hands and a fking mapEverything comes back to government, ultimately.
The NHS did have enough time and money to at least be a bit better prepared for the winter onslaught.
purplepenguin said:
Yes I think you are correct but my experience of NHS management and procurement is that it is bloated, very slow and often the people that make the decisions have no real life experience of the front line.
The NHS did have enough time and money to at least be a bit better prepared for the winter onslaught.
Oh I will certainly agree that as a corporate structure it is bloated and slow to respond - I saw millions wasted on consultants - some were superb and got the job done efficiently they were asked to do - but many others who's main contribution was to create ways of recording things being done and hold a lot of meetings about how to do things. And then monitor those things. Everything in that corporate structure eventually took several times longer than it did (say) 10 years previously. And at far greater cost (using far more people). Still, every tiny action is there for all to read in the paperwork - should anyone ever look at it again.The NHS did have enough time and money to at least be a bit better prepared for the winter onslaught.
Leftfootwonder said:
He did provide us with some of the best TV of 2020....What a tt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnV9LumDxZk
Oscar worthy. When he’s run over by boris’ bus, he’ll have a great acting career. Fit right into films like sharknado 5.thttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnV9LumDxZk
rscott said:
Why does Matt Hancock sit down like Woody in Toy Story when a human enters the room https://t.co/uJOrAWJiTU
Mojooo said:
These two are epic!
BlackLabel said:
Surely the secretary of state for health deserves his own thread given what’s been happening since March.
Please share your thoughts and appreciation here.
The most remarkable being him handing out contracts to his mates, making them a small fortune. But look at the boss, it’s no wonder we have these total wimps in senior positions, anyone credible would make Boris look even worse. Please share your thoughts and appreciation here.
rxe said:
Flip Martian said:
Gosh that sounds so easy, I wonder why no-one with experience of running a national health service has ever thought of it.
Well, I’m asking the question; why haven’t they? It seems to be a “no regrets” option that they could have taken earlier in the year.If the NHS so called mangers are just there to follow
government diktats and policy why not sack a few thousand they aren’t exactly doing very much if they
Can’t run individual hospitals and health authorities by making decisions ,
Maybe change the job titles to reflect this , make them Clarke’s and auditors ???
bhstewie said:
fhstewie said:k me 
And people are defending this guy..AJ5641 said:
bhstewie said:
fhstewie said:k me And people are defending this guy..
AJ5641 said:
bhstewie said:
fhstewie said:k me And people are defending this guy..https://youtu.be/HxbPs9M6H6M
purplepenguin said:
The NHS did have enough time and money to at least be a bit better prepared for the winter onslaught.
They could have, as an absolute bare minimum, not authorised any leave for December and January. Instead of appearing on my TV imploring staff to voluntarily "give it up" and come inGassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff