2021 - Retailer woe & retail sector chat

2021 - Retailer woe & retail sector chat

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Eyersey1234

2,898 posts

80 months

Friday 9th April 2021
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rah1888 said:
I had to pay a cheque in recently for the first time in ages, my banking app scanned the cheque using the camera on my iphone!

The wonders of modern technology.
I wondered how a cheque could be paid in through an app

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 9th April 2021
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bazza white said:
It's gone quiet on the Jessops admin situation.
I am actually shocked they were saved the first time. Even ten+ years ago they were essentially a show room where you would look at camera's before going home and ordering them on the internet for less.

In that time camera phones have got so good that for the majority of people they don't actually need a camera anymore. How many people even print photos anymore, another part of their business which has disappeared.

I used to have a digital SLR and it was a total faff having to carry it around all the time. As soon as I got a decent camera phone I never used it again.

KTF

9,808 posts

151 months

Friday 9th April 2021
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Eyersey1234 said:
I wondered how a cheque could be paid in through an app
You take a photo of the front and back via the app. The bank does its thing and then you put the cheque in the bin after its cleared.

Vasco

16,478 posts

106 months

Friday 9th April 2021
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Joey Deacon said:
bazza white said:
It's gone quiet on the Jessops admin situation.
I am actually shocked they were saved the first time. Even ten+ years ago they were essentially a show room where you would look at camera's before going home and ordering them on the internet for less.

In that time camera phones have got so good that for the majority of people they don't actually need a camera anymore. How many people even print photos anymore, another part of their business which has disappeared.

I used to have a digital SLR and it was a total faff having to carry it around all the time. As soon as I got a decent camera phone I never used it again.
Very true, but horses for courses. You can't fit a whole load of useful lens attachments to a camera phone, nor do you have the range of other facilities that you can get on a good SLR.

pquinn

7,167 posts

47 months

Friday 9th April 2021
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KTF said:
Eyersey1234 said:
I wondered how a cheque could be paid in through an app
You take a photo of the front and back via the app. The bank does its thing and then you put the cheque in the bin after its cleared.
Technically C&CCC does it's thing... The app based clearing isn't quite as bombproof as the physical system but it's about as solid as it can be made.

Physical cheques have always been a pain and apps have made that bit a lot easier.

Still prefer using branches for some stuff, always room for doubt with the phone or app while it's trivial in person.

HTP99

22,579 posts

141 months

Saturday 10th April 2021
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Well our local Council are going all out to help the local shops in the town, just as they are preparing to open up on Monday...... Not!

Parking charges have changed from the usual £1.10 per hour to, min charge of £3 - up to 3 hours, increasing to £6 - up to 6 hours and then £12 for over 6 hours.

That'll be me and many others not popping in to do a few things which can be done in under an hour, whilst a grabbing a coffee from the local indepndant and a cake from the open air bakery.

Biggy Stardust

6,924 posts

45 months

Saturday 10th April 2021
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HTP99 said:
Well our local Council are going all out to help the local shops in the town, just as they are preparing to open up on Monday...... Not!

Parking charges have changed from the usual £1.10 per hour to, min charge of £3 - up to 3 hours, increasing to £6 - up to 6 hours and then £12 for over 6 hours.

That'll be me and many others not popping in to do a few things which can be done in under an hour, whilst a grabbing a coffee from the local indepndant and a cake from the open air bakery.
Note that any extra money raised is to fund such things as adult social care. Therefore it is justified & acceptable.

It is emphatically NOT going to fund pay & pensions for overstaffed & underworked council employees or fund stupid vanity projects.

Sheepshanks

32,799 posts

120 months

Saturday 10th April 2021
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Biggy Stardust said:
HTP99 said:
Well our local Council are going all out to help the local shops in the town, just as they are preparing to open up on Monday...... Not!

Parking charges have changed from the usual £1.10 per hour to, min charge of £3 - up to 3 hours, increasing to £6 - up to 6 hours and then £12 for over 6 hours.

That'll be me and many others not popping in to do a few things which can be done in under an hour, whilst a grabbing a coffee from the local indepndant and a cake from the open air bakery.
Note that any extra money raised is to fund such things as adult social care. Therefore it is justified & acceptable.

It is emphatically NOT going to fund pay & pensions for overstaffed & underworked council employees or fund stupid vanity projects.
They’ll say it’s for environmental reasons to discourage car use.

snuffy

9,783 posts

285 months

Saturday 10th April 2021
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Sheepshanks said:
They’ll say it’s for environmental reasons to discourage car use.
Well, it certainly will work, so they will be able to say how successful their policy is.

"Look, no cars, aren't we wonderful ?!"

"Yes, but no shoppers either"

"Yes, but no cars"



eldar

21,791 posts

197 months

Saturday 10th April 2021
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Sheepshanks said:
Biggy Stardust said:
HTP99 said:
Well our local Council are going all out to help the local shops in the town, just as they are preparing to open up on Monday...... Not!

Parking charges have changed from the usual £1.10 per hour to, min charge of £3 - up to 3 hours, increasing to £6 - up to 6 hours and then £12 for over 6 hours.

That'll be me and many others not popping in to do a few things which can be done in under an hour, whilst a grabbing a coffee from the local indepndant and a cake from the open air bakery.
Note that any extra money raised is to fund such things as adult social care. Therefore it is justified & acceptable.

It is emphatically NOT going to fund pay & pensions for overstaffed & underworked council employees or fund stupid vanity projects.
They’ll say it’s for environmental reasons to discourage car use.
Of course, the high street is so bad for the environment. Having it empty will save the world.

Electro1980

8,303 posts

140 months

Saturday 10th April 2021
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Biggy Stardust said:
HTP99 said:
Well our local Council are going all out to help the local shops in the town, just as they are preparing to open up on Monday...... Not!

Parking charges have changed from the usual £1.10 per hour to, min charge of £3 - up to 3 hours, increasing to £6 - up to 6 hours and then £12 for over 6 hours.

That'll be me and many others not popping in to do a few things which can be done in under an hour, whilst a grabbing a coffee from the local indepndant and a cake from the open air bakery.
Note that any extra money raised is to fund such things as adult social care. Therefore it is justified & acceptable.

It is emphatically NOT going to fund pay & pensions for overstaffed & underworked council employees or fund stupid vanity projects.
Overstaffed and underworked council employees? Well, first of all parking charges are ring fenced and have to be used for roads, like filling potholes. Secondly, have you ever worked for a council? I would guess not if you think any council employees are under worked.

eldar

21,791 posts

197 months

Saturday 10th April 2021
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Electro1980 said:
Overstaffed and underworked council employees? Well, first of all parking charges are ring fenced and have to be used for roads, like filling potholes. Secondly, have you ever worked for a council? I would guess not if you think any council employees are under worked.
Council employee, perhaps?

Electro1980

8,303 posts

140 months

Saturday 10th April 2021
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15 years ago, yes. Not now. They are just normal people trying to do their best but unlike every other company I have been at they were trying to do it with the square root of fk all because tax payers what everything for nothing. We were still consulting microfiche records for fks sake.

Thankyou4calling

10,607 posts

174 months

Saturday 10th April 2021
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I was in High Wycombe yesterday.

All council car parks are free from Monday for a month!

That’s a great initiative and I’m certain the town retailers will be extremely busy.

snuffy

9,783 posts

285 months

Saturday 10th April 2021
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Electro1980 said:
15 years ago, yes. Not now. They are just normal people trying to do their best but unlike every other company I have been at they were trying to do it with the square root of fk all because tax payers what everything for nothing. We were still consulting microfiche records for fks sake.
Using microfiche that everyone else got rid of years ago ? So you failed to modernise and who do you blame ? Certainly not yourself it seems.


Flooble

5,565 posts

101 months

Saturday 10th April 2021
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Electro1980 said:
15 years ago, yes. Not now. They are just normal people trying to do their best but unlike every other company I have been at they were trying to do it with the square root of fk all because tax payers what everything for nothing. We were still consulting microfiche records for fks sake.
I'd say it's "normal" but actually more exaggerated, in that the ones at the bottom have to try and get by with little, as you say, but both the lazy and the people at the top are even more disconnected than the private sector. I had to do a lot of work with councils 10-15 years ago and there was a huge contrast between the tatty rundown offices where the "staff" worked compared with the gleaming boardrooms.

One of the top dogs? £100K easy, maybe £150K. Normal pleb? £20K and be grateful for it, £45K if you were in charge of a department. Most of the councils (county mainly) had a few thousand staff, basically an SME equivalent and with a lot of part-time and "process based" staff (i.e. the bottom structure was very flat - large numbers of people all on the bottom level, maybe 25 junior staff, 5 team leads and one department head). But the councils had multiple "Directors" on £100K+ salaries, as if it was a professional-services type firm with a pyramid type structure (i.e. a relatively small number of people at the bottom e.g. 7 juniors to 4 seniors to 2 leads to 1 department head).

Then you had the lazy - people without morals were able to abuse the generosity of their employer by taking years off sick, gaming the system. I was told of people who would do things like coming back for just long enough to "reset the clock" and get another chunk of sick leave, or immediately after a promotion go off sick to maximise the length of time on the higher pay without doing the job itself.

I think things have tightened up since I was working with them (I know some friends have seen annual redundancy rounds, which were unheard of), but there was always the difficulty of balancing practicality with compassion. Somehow those who wanted to work and do good seemed to suffer while the lazy and greedy got away with it time after time. Very odd.

I can imagine that the mentioned parking charge changes are a perfect storm. The pragmatic are looking at the collapse in revenue from business rates/council tax/everything else and seeking ways to make up the shortfall while the ideologically driven see the perfect opportunity to wreak more destruction and further progress towards their "utopia".

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 10th April 2021
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I think Edinburgh is going to start charging for Sunday parking?

Vasco

16,478 posts

106 months

Saturday 10th April 2021
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Biggy Stardust said:
HTP99 said:
Well our local Council are going all out to help the local shops in the town, just as they are preparing to open up on Monday...... Not!

Parking charges have changed from the usual £1.10 per hour to, min charge of £3 - up to 3 hours, increasing to £6 - up to 6 hours and then £12 for over 6 hours.

That'll be me and many others not popping in to do a few things which can be done in under an hour, whilst a grabbing a coffee from the local indepndant and a cake from the open air bakery.
Note that any extra money raised is to fund such things as adult social care. Therefore it is justified & acceptable.

It is emphatically NOT going to fund pay & pensions for overstaffed & underworked council employees or fund stupid vanity projects.
Not sure that can be true. Extra money raised does not HAVE to be used on things such as social care.

Flooble

5,565 posts

101 months

Saturday 10th April 2021
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Vasco said:
Not sure that can be true. Extra money raised does not HAVE to be used on things such as social care.
I think you may be due a whoosh parrot!

Electro1980

8,303 posts

140 months

Saturday 10th April 2021
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snuffy said:
Electro1980 said:
15 years ago, yes. Not now. They are just normal people trying to do their best but unlike every other company I have been at they were trying to do it with the square root of fk all because tax payers what everything for nothing. We were still consulting microfiche records for fks sake.
Using microfiche that everyone else got rid of years ago ? So you failed to modernise and who do you blame ? Certainly not yourself it seems.
And why did we/they not modernise? No money. So, yes, I blame the people who want a Finest service for Value prices.