2021 - Retailer woe & retail sector chat
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Those kind of jobs can be more difficult to fill because you need someone who can work nights and weekends (which precludes people with children), you are probably looking for a fit employee due to the physical nature of the work and being on their feet all day, someone with the social skills to handle customers, trustworthy enough to cash up/do the banking etc. and it sounds like it might be rural so there could be daily travel.
That said £35/hr would be a little more than I'd expect to have to pay. That said, in a tight labour market you often don't have many options.
That said £35/hr would be a little more than I'd expect to have to pay. That said, in a tight labour market you often don't have many options.
Edited by speedy_thrills on Sunday 19th September 19:53
vaud said:
He said £35/hr per person.
To be fair he didn't say what role, it might have been the other chefs or senior front of house/management.
Maybe a cross purposes conversation?To be fair he didn't say what role, it might have been the other chefs or senior front of house/management.
No way kitchen staff/FOH in a West Yorkshire bistro are on £35p/h.
See here for examples of current rates; https://uk.indeed.com/m/jobs?q=chef+%2F+cook&m...
APontus said:
Maybe a cross purposes conversation?
No way kitchen staff/FOH in a West Yorkshire bistro are on £35p/h.
See here for examples of current rates; https://uk.indeed.com/m/jobs?q=chef+%2F+cook&m...
Those are advertised rates, not hiring rates. Loads of places advertising min wage care home jobs as well. They also go unfilled.No way kitchen staff/FOH in a West Yorkshire bistro are on £35p/h.
See here for examples of current rates; https://uk.indeed.com/m/jobs?q=chef+%2F+cook&m...
I'm referring to LS29 which also has a crazy cost of living.
vaud said:
Those are advertised rates, not hiring rates. Loads of places advertising min wage care home jobs as well. They also go unfilled.
I'm referring to LS29 which also has a crazy cost of living.
I'm LS19. People here are not earning £35p/h waiting on tables. Something got lost in translation. I'm referring to LS29 which also has a crazy cost of living.
Sorry, didn't mean to sound aggressive. Must be tough for food places, business interruption, rising ingredient costs, inconsistent supply, disappearance of EU staff, the pingdemic, increased staff cost. NI increases. Wouldn't fancy it myself at the moment, especially heading into an uncertain winter.
APontus said:
vaud said:
Those are advertised rates, not hiring rates. Loads of places advertising min wage care home jobs as well. They also go unfilled.
I'm referring to LS29 which also has a crazy cost of living.
I'm LS19. People here are not earning £35p/h waiting on tables. Something got lost in translation. I'm referring to LS29 which also has a crazy cost of living.
I wonder if for some of the mid-range places will adopt things like app-based ordering, payment etc
If I'm in Pizza Express, for example, it's usually because I'm out with the children and they fancy pizza. It's more about efficient and timely service and the menu is pretty straightforward, so if that means ordering and paying on an app that's not really an issue. When GBK started doing this is was actually better, as previously you had to order at a counter anyway.
Obviously, when you go somewhere for the posh / Michelin Star restaurants the service is a bigger part of the experience and you're more likely to want to ask questions about the menu, wine etc
APontus said:
Sorry, didn't mean to sound aggressive. Must be tough for food places, business interruption, rising ingredient costs, inconsistent supply, disappearance of EU staff, the pingdemic, increased staff cost. NI increases. Wouldn't fancy it myself at the moment, especially heading into an uncertain winter.
I agree... no aggression detected and it's an excuse for a walk and a pint... ;-)I don't buy those pay rates either, but our local large, and very popular, chain-gastro-pub, has been barely able to serve food for weeks and even as a pub its opening hours are very much reduced. It's closed completely some days. Must be losing a small fortune.
It's part of a small local chain and I suspect they're rotating staff, especially chefs, around their pubs to try and keep them all ticking over.
It's part of a small local chain and I suspect they're rotating staff, especially chefs, around their pubs to try and keep them all ticking over.
So Waitrose want your online shop rolling around in the crate as the driver hoons around his route getting smashed to pieces in the process, great step forward.
Can't see the drivers scrabbling about on the floor packing the remanents of your shop into your bags. Sainsburys made a similiar move and let the customers scrabble about the floor while the driver watched.
Can't see the drivers scrabbling about on the floor packing the remanents of your shop into your bags. Sainsburys made a similiar move and let the customers scrabble about the floor while the driver watched.
APontus said:
vaud said:
Those are advertised rates, not hiring rates. Loads of places advertising min wage care home jobs as well. They also go unfilled.
I'm referring to LS29 which also has a crazy cost of living.
I'm LS19. People here are not earning £35p/h waiting on tables. Something got lost in translation. I'm referring to LS29 which also has a crazy cost of living.
gottans said:
So Waitrose want your online shop rolling around in the crate as the driver hoons around his route getting smashed to pieces in the process, great step forward.
Can't see the drivers scrabbling about on the floor packing the remanents of your shop into your bags. Sainsburys made a similiar move and let the customers scrabble about the floor while the driver watched.
Can't see the drivers scrabbling about on the floor packing the remanents of your shop into your bags. Sainsburys made a similiar move and let the customers scrabble about the floor while the driver watched.
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