Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 10
Discussion
ant1973 said:
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/19128614.john-...
Swinney needs to resign. Parliament has quite obviously been misled. I am in no doubt that the advice at the outset of the legal process would have been the same: "bound to fail".
Can't run an HR investigation but want to be responsible for us becoming an independent nation? Don't make me laugh.
Shocking. If they can't run their own processes fairly, how can they run a country?Swinney needs to resign. Parliament has quite obviously been misled. I am in no doubt that the advice at the outset of the legal process would have been the same: "bound to fail".
Can't run an HR investigation but want to be responsible for us becoming an independent nation? Don't make me laugh.
Self serving in the extreme.
Willhire89 said:
Lim said:
I suggest we all move on there is more interesting stuff going on.
Try 'Look Squirrell' - might be a more successful diversion from the lack of data to back your assertion
Makes a completely wrong assertion, then when called on it, completely glosses over it.
and he wonders why I lost patience with him?
Lim said:
sherman said:
What is the context of this chart?
It tells you nothing. Its a list of countries with coloured lines.
If you dont link to what or where the chart is from thats just a pointless picture.
The person who brought it up didn't exactly set a high bar to beat, re evidence .It tells you nothing. Its a list of countries with coloured lines.
If you dont link to what or where the chart is from thats just a pointless picture.
I suggest we all move on there is more interesting stuff going on.
There certainly is more exciting things going on like watching the slow implosion of the SNP. If only you could post contextually accurate news about how they are doing with this you would be a useful addition to this thread instead of just arguing with everyone else.
sherman said:
There certainly is more exciting things going on like watching the slow implosion of the SNP. If only you could post contextually accurate news about how they are doing with this you would be a useful addition to this thread instead of just arguing with everyone else.
Heres the link to the source, that commie rag the FT.
It's not a novel observation. UK has the last to come out of spring lockdown by quite some distance, if you remember.
https://www.ft.com/content/a2901ce8-5eb7-4633-b89c...
Edited by Lim on Tuesday 2nd March 12:12
Lim said:
sherman said:
There certainly is more exciting things going on like watching the slow implosion of the SNP. If only you could post contextually accurate news about how they are doing with this you would be a useful addition to this thread instead of just arguing with everyone else.
Heres the link to the source, that commie rag the FT.
https://www.ft.com/content/a2901ce8-5eb7-4633-b89c...
That is not what that graph is talking about.
Try again.
Lim said:
sherman said:
There certainly is more exciting things going on like watching the slow implosion of the SNP. If only you could post contextually accurate news about how they are doing with this you would be a useful addition to this thread instead of just arguing with everyone else.
Heres the link to the source, that commie rag the FT.
https://www.ft.com/content/a2901ce8-5eb7-4633-b89c...
Edited by sherman on Tuesday 2nd March 12:15
sherman said:
Lim said:
sherman said:
There certainly is more exciting things going on like watching the slow implosion of the SNP. If only you could post contextually accurate news about how they are doing with this you would be a useful addition to this thread instead of just arguing with everyone else.
Heres the link to the source, that commie rag the FT.
https://www.ft.com/content/a2901ce8-5eb7-4633-b89c...
TheJimi said:
You specifically referred to "strictest" lockdown.
That is not what that graph is talking about.
Try again.
My intrepreation of 'strict' is whatever I choose it to be. Personally, for me, it's number of days in the year where I can't go for a meal or send my kids to nursery. That is not what that graph is talking about.
Try again.
If you want to interpret it differently, curfews etc, that's up to you. Personally a curfew wouldn't impact me much. My interpretation happens to tally with the methodology adopted by the FT. Hence my choice of data.
Don't swear at me for offering my interpretation please, i'm just as entitled as you to offer it. And you swearing at me isn't going to make me adopt your methodology.
Lim said:
TheJimi said:
You specifically referred to "strictest" lockdown.
That is not what that graph is talking about.
Try again.
My intrepreation of 'strict' is whatever I choose it to be. Personally, for me, it's number of days in the year where I can't go for a meal or send my kids to nursery. That is not what that graph is talking about.
Try again.
If you want to interpret it differently, that's up to you. My interpretation happens to tally with the methodology adopted by the FT. Hence my choice of data.
Don't swear at me for offering my interpretation please, i'm just as entitled as you to offer it. And you swearing at me isn't going to change anything.
I'm now getting to see how people got so frustrated with you.
Okay just one more comment on covid. Here is Oxford university's snapshot, dated 22nd Feb. I believe they use a methodology closer to that which Jimi would prefer the FT use. Ie strictness in a snapshot of time, rather than overall restrictions across the whole year.
I've now provided two separate sources, taking quite different approaches to the question, resulting with UK on top for both.
Can we please get back to the SNP now? For many reasons, I'm very sick of Covid.
Edited by Lim on Tuesday 2nd March 12:37
Lim said:
Can we please get back to the SNP now? For many reasons, I'm very sick of Covid.
Edited by Lim on Tuesday 2nd March 12:37
They should never have got to the point that they are having to waste so much government time investigating them.
We might have been getting out of lockdown sooner if the government wasnt distracted with infighting and independence when they should have just been doing their jobs with all the gusto they put into these side shows.
Ridgemont said:
Anyhoo.
Swinney letter in full.
There’s an admission that reservations were raised but that there were ‘good public policy arguments’ for continuing.
Yes. I’m sure there were.
The embarrassing thing here is that the government knew from day one that the procedure followed was flawed. This is not a case where a third party provides evidence which is a "bolt from the blue" that changes the advice previously offered. There was no reasonable basis for continuing this case between October and December - particularly where taxpayer's money was involved. The defence of the case was continued in the hope that something would "turn up" (e.g. the alleged hope that the criminal trial would require the civil proceedings to be stayed so that defeat in the latter might be deferred). The damage which has been done to the reputation of Scotland's legal system rests at the door of the SNP and their ugly and cynical abuse of power. I have been a lawyer for a long time but this is the first time I am embarrassed to be part of the Scottish legal system. Swinney letter in full.
There’s an admission that reservations were raised but that there were ‘good public policy arguments’ for continuing.
Yes. I’m sure there were.
TheJimi said:
Yup.
I'm going with green.
Who will again I fear prop up the Natz.I'm going with green.
I know the choices are poor but there has to be a better tactical vote proposition that we could all adhere to. I’d suffer a spineless any-of-the-rest coalition over the current shambolic cabal. If only for a reset in Scottish politics.
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