Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 10
Discussion
sherman said:
hidetheelephants said:
This load of b
ks ended up on my FB feed. The council in Glasgow is SNP, prior to that it was Labour for 40odd years. The government is SNP, has been for 13 years. Full of of ste, this poster is.
You should report it to Tesco for copyright infringement or similar. ks ended up on my FB feed. The council in Glasgow is SNP, prior to that it was Labour for 40odd years. The government is SNP, has been for 13 years. Full of of ste, this poster is.That reminds me of the s
t Nationalist activists were putting up everyone in advance of the 2015 General Election, where they were conflating Labour and Conservative into one group (Tory/RedTory) and deliberately misleading voters into thinking Labour candidates were Conservatives.Well folks, right on cue.
Just in time to attempt to distract from his benefactor's latest bout of shooting herself in the foot, Angus Roberstson rides to the rescue with more Polling Propaganda.
Big mistake IMO - very obviously a desperately transparent move, plus he's come out of the shadows and publicised this himself rather than under the flag-of-convenience of a mainstream media outlet that Progress Scotland would usually gift their results to.
Plus he's drawing attention to their dubious methodology for coming up with their 'majority support' figures (aggregating people who are far from convinced along with people who are totally convinced and everything in-between - one of the replies to his Tweet has clearly spotted this). Notice also the change of emphasis in his voice when mentioning his figures include undecideds.
Just a thought - this guy has to actually win his seat before easing into the SNP leadership/FM coronation.
Just in time to attempt to distract from his benefactor's latest bout of shooting herself in the foot, Angus Roberstson rides to the rescue with more Polling Propaganda.
Big mistake IMO - very obviously a desperately transparent move, plus he's come out of the shadows and publicised this himself rather than under the flag-of-convenience of a mainstream media outlet that Progress Scotland would usually gift their results to.
Plus he's drawing attention to their dubious methodology for coming up with their 'majority support' figures (aggregating people who are far from convinced along with people who are totally convinced and everything in-between - one of the replies to his Tweet has clearly spotted this). Notice also the change of emphasis in his voice when mentioning his figures include undecideds.
Just a thought - this guy has to actually win his seat before easing into the SNP leadership/FM coronation.
Edited by Evercross on Saturday 9th January 18:10
Evercross said:
sherman said:
hidetheelephants said:
This load of bks ended up on my FB feed. The council in Glasgow is SNP, prior to that it was Labour for 40odd years. The government is SNP, has been for 13 years. Full of of ste, this poster is.
You should report it to Tesco for copyright infringement or similar. ks ended up on my FB feed. The council in Glasgow is SNP, prior to that it was Labour for 40odd years. The government is SNP, has been for 13 years. Full of of ste, this poster is.That reminds me of the s
t Nationalist activists were putting up everyone in advance of the 2015 General Election, where they were conflating Labour and Conservative into one group (Tory/RedTory) and deliberately misleading voters into thinking Labour candidates were Conservatives.ks about a Fair Use of copyright material in artwork.I just read the spectator article. Which btw confirms my point this hasn’t really seeped into public view yet. My interpretation just of the article...
The real danger to NS is not so much she lied about the key meetings, ( that technically ‘could’ be enough, but there isn’t sufficient precedent to be confident). Rather, the enquiry might be expanded to reveal NS knew for some time about the accusations (the allegedly creepy- but-not-illegal behaviour , which he was acquitted of), and didn’t act on it. Or even more severe, she knew about the accusations for a while, sat on it, and deliberately used it to set him up. Which seems worse but less likely.
If this evidence doesn’t come to light, it’s unlikely she would confess and voluntarily resign over 'forgetting' the meeting, and ‘could’ wriggle out of it. However multiple people claim to have seen the evidence proving the lies were more substantial, and claim it is sufficient to finish the job.
That's how I read the article anyhow. Some parts still do not make total sense to me.
The real danger to NS is not so much she lied about the key meetings, ( that technically ‘could’ be enough, but there isn’t sufficient precedent to be confident). Rather, the enquiry might be expanded to reveal NS knew for some time about the accusations (the allegedly creepy- but-not-illegal behaviour , which he was acquitted of), and didn’t act on it. Or even more severe, she knew about the accusations for a while, sat on it, and deliberately used it to set him up. Which seems worse but less likely.
If this evidence doesn’t come to light, it’s unlikely she would confess and voluntarily resign over 'forgetting' the meeting, and ‘could’ wriggle out of it. However multiple people claim to have seen the evidence proving the lies were more substantial, and claim it is sufficient to finish the job.
That's how I read the article anyhow. Some parts still do not make total sense to me.
Edited by Lim on Sunday 10th January 18:16
hidetheelephants said:
As 'burgher might say, jeez; if you feel the need report it, but the artist is doubtless without a pot to piss in and Tesco will give exactly no fks about a Fair Use of copyright material in artwork.
Inclined to agree, except for the fact that the ASA might like to take this one on.ks about a Fair Use of copyright material in artwork.For any otheranoraksfollowing the Salmond/Krankie saga - Eck's full submission is at
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/full-text-alex...
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/full-text-alex...
irc said:
For any otheranoraksfollowing the Salmond/Krankie saga - Eck's full submission is at
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/full-text-alex...
Wings going nuts over it. Nippy likely banged to rights.https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/full-text-alex...
Be interested to see how this plays out.
And Alex Massie’s brilliant summary of the whole sordid tale for those not up to date.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/now-the-trial-...
A former first minister who appears to have no circumspection about assaulting women. And has to apologise for it.
A current first minister who deliberately put him in the frame for a criminal investigation. Which ill advisedly went to court when it turned out the complainents had links to the SNP.
And then a first minister who then lied about that decision and has tried to cover up that process and the possible SNP impact with her husband’s role as the CEO of the SNP.
fk me. Proper gutter stuff.
I would hope this when (if) it properly erupts will be the death knell of the SNP led Indy movement exposing it as the festering corrupt sore it is. I doubt it will be.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/now-the-trial-...
A former first minister who appears to have no circumspection about assaulting women. And has to apologise for it.
A current first minister who deliberately put him in the frame for a criminal investigation. Which ill advisedly went to court when it turned out the complainents had links to the SNP.
And then a first minister who then lied about that decision and has tried to cover up that process and the possible SNP impact with her husband’s role as the CEO of the SNP.
f
k me. Proper gutter stuff.I would hope this when (if) it properly erupts will be the death knell of the SNP led Indy movement exposing it as the festering corrupt sore it is. I doubt it will be.
Tomm3 said:
Haven't seen anything but fawning from the BBC throughout the pandemic, to make Boris look bad i suppose.
That's exactly it.I've made that point several times - the main reason the SNP are newsworthy is because they are providing an antagonist to Boris (far more-so than Starmer) even if it is is only notional and just grandstanding by League Division Two/not a world-leader Nicola, bolstered by her bought-and-paid-for propaganda wing Progress Scotland.
Other than that the MSM really don't give a s
t, as their total lack of attention to the SNP's less than unblemished character and record is testament to.Thing is though - the legal process doesn't need the fuel of publicity to reach its conclusions, which is why this has been rumbling on in the background and will continue to.
Edited by Evercross on Sunday 10th January 11:45
General Price said:
That numpty Swinney has been on tv saying indyref 2 is an 'essential priority' for covid recovery.
Our nationalist apologists will be along in a moment to remind us that it is the unionists who are obsessed with talking about independence......Jasey_ said:
He makes Gavin Williamson look like a great education secretary.
He makes Mr Bean look competent, plus what exactly is the point of Swinney these days anyway? I've lost count now of the number of times Nicola has overturned him.Edited by Evercross on Sunday 10th January 19:17
I see the £500 NHS bribe is coming from UK govt cash supplied under the Barnett formula to deal with the effects of Covid.
So NHS workers who have in the main received their full salary throughout this pandemic get a bonus. Meanwhile that £180M could have been used to provide aid to businesses or individuals who have sufered finanacial hardship due to SNP govt policies.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/r...
So NHS workers who have in the main received their full salary throughout this pandemic get a bonus. Meanwhile that £180M could have been used to provide aid to businesses or individuals who have sufered finanacial hardship due to SNP govt policies.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/r...
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