Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 10

Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 10

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Roderick Spode

3,123 posts

50 months

Thursday 22nd April 2021
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The polls that showed their supposed whopping lead for independence were all either run by Angus Robertson's hilariously biased polling company, or were commissioned by pro-indy organisations. The first question any polling house asks is "what answer do you want this poll to return?"... Progress Scotland, Anguish's mob, don't even attempt to portray any pretence of impartiality. One of their questions was something like -

"On a scale of 0 to 10, how supportive of Scottish independence are you?"

Obviously the pro-union position received a zero, and the virtuous indy position was the perfect ten. Then, any answer returned that was non-zero was categorised as a pro-indy position - hence the 58% result. Mendacious and duplicitous, wilfully misleading. Unfortunately the simple minded sheep lap up these polls as facts. Reinforcement bias is alive and well in the State of Denmark.

irc

7,342 posts

137 months

Thursday 22nd April 2021
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All those pro indy polls? The poll company Savanta ComRes has issued a grovelling apology for getting it's numbers wrong. The error (of course?) over stated the support for indy.

"The original polls in December, January and February reported support for independence as being 52 per cent, 51 per cent and 47 per cent respectively. When retrospectively adjusted they reveal support was actually 49 per cent, 47 per cent and 43 per cent – potentially narrative-changing figures. "

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/pollster-consi...


Pastor Of Muppets

3,269 posts

63 months

Thursday 22nd April 2021
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I remember Sturgeon lambasting Theresa May and Boris for not appearing in election debates
and calling them cowards, who's the coward now Nicola, got something to hide, scared you will be
shown up?. What an absolute own goal, pathetic, this isn't a wee regional debate, its QT broadcast
nationwide with a lot of viewers who are going to see straight away that Scotlands FM is running scared.

Chosen Pronoun..... Chicken.

https://order-order.com/2021/04/22/sturgeon-change...

dukeboy749r

2,678 posts

211 months

Thursday 22nd April 2021
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is-uk said:
More bad news for Sturgeon, Angus and Bunter.....

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/d95b5490-a2e7-1...
Yes!!

Man I hope this is even larger come the day of voting.

Leithen

10,941 posts

268 months

Thursday 22nd April 2021
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So a border between Scotland & England is going to create jobs...

https://twitter.com/ITVBorderRB/status/13852611890...

Will that be to control people coming into Scotland or those trying to get out?

wobert

5,057 posts

223 months

Thursday 22nd April 2021
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Pastor Of Muppets said:
I remember Sturgeon lambasting Theresa May and Boris for not appearing in election debates
and calling them cowards, who's the coward now Nicola, got something to hide, scared you will be
shown up?. What an absolute own goal, pathetic, this isn't a wee regional debate, its QT broadcast
nationwide with a lot of viewers who are going to see straight away that Scotlands FM is running scared.

Chosen Pronoun..... Chicken.

https://order-order.com/2021/04/22/sturgeon-change...
Well yes, ‘do as I say, not as I do’

Shambler

1,191 posts

145 months

Thursday 22nd April 2021
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Leithen said:
So a border between Scotland & England is going to create jobs...

https://twitter.com/ITVBorderRB/status/13852611890...

Will that be to control people coming into Scotland or those trying to get out?
This is a prime example of the sheer dearth of intelligence in Scottish politics, who in gods name votes for these idiots, There is another video by the same MSP where she informs people that the Scottish pound has a higher transfer rate than the English pound.

simoid

19,772 posts

159 months

Thursday 22nd April 2021
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Leithen said:
So a border between Scotland & England is going to create jobs...

https://twitter.com/ITVBorderRB/status/13852611890...

Will that be to control people coming into Scotland or those trying to get out?
https://twitter.com/alimacno/status/1319887299396702209

Scottish Pound worth more than the English at present.

sherman

13,365 posts

216 months

Thursday 22nd April 2021
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simoid said:
https://twitter.com/alimacno/status/13198872993967...

Scottish Pound worth more than the English at present.
Technically thats correct iirc in Scotland the banks need to keep enough gold so its equal to the value of the pounds issued as we have no central bank. Hence the 4 diffrent banks issuing notes.
The English banking system is diffrent as the central banks guarentees the monetry value so you dont need all the gold just the guarantee of it.
So English sterling is technically worth less as the bank in England only has something like only 80p in the pound in its safe compared to a Scottish banks 100p in the pound in its safe.

simoid

19,772 posts

159 months

Thursday 22nd April 2021
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sherman said:
Technically thats correct iirc in Scotland the banks need to keep enough gold so its equal to the value of the pounds issued as we have no central bank. Hence the 4 diffrent banks issuing notes.
The English banking system is diffrent as the central banks guarentees the monetry value so you dont need all the gold just the guarantee of it.
So English sterling is technically worth less as the bank in England only has something like only 80p in the pound in its safe compared to a Scottish banks 100p in the pound in its safe.
Great stuff, if you’ve got a few English notes I’ll happily give you 90 Scottish pence per pound and we’re both quids in...

sherman

13,365 posts

216 months

Thursday 22nd April 2021
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simoid said:
sherman said:
Technically thats correct iirc in Scotland the banks need to keep enough gold so its equal to the value of the pounds issued as we have no central bank. Hence the 4 diffrent banks issuing notes.
The English banking system is diffrent as the central banks guarentees the monetry value so you dont need all the gold just the guarantee of it.
So English sterling is technically worth less as the bank in England only has something like only 80p in the pound in its safe compared to a Scottish banks 100p in the pound in its safe.
Great stuff, if you’ve got a few English notes I’ll happily give you 90 Scottish pence per pound and we’re both quids in...
Think I will pass. Cant spend them south of York hehe

Its technically correct , not useful though.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 22nd April 2021
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sherman said:
Technically thats correct iirc in Scotland the banks need to keep enough gold so its equal to the value of the pounds issued as we have no central bank. Hence the 4 diffrent banks issuing notes.
The English banking system is diffrent as the central banks guarentees the monetry value so you dont need all the gold just the guarantee of it.
So English sterling is technically worth less as the bank in England only has something like only 80p in the pound in its safe compared to a Scottish banks 100p in the pound in its safe.
This sounds quite interesting, but I can't find a source suggesting it's true. Do you have one? I only found this one one about Scottish Government gold reserves.

https://www.gov.scot/publications/foi-18-03510/#:~...

sherman

13,365 posts

216 months

Thursday 22nd April 2021
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MrMan001 said:
sherman said:
Technically thats correct iirc in Scotland the banks need to keep enough gold so its equal to the value of the pounds issued as we have no central bank. Hence the 4 diffrent banks issuing notes.
The English banking system is diffrent as the central banks guarentees the monetry value so you dont need all the gold just the guarantee of it.
So English sterling is technically worth less as the bank in England only has something like only 80p in the pound in its safe compared to a Scottish banks 100p in the pound in its safe.
This sounds quite interesting, but I can't find a source suggesting it's true. Do you have one? I only found this one one about Scottish Government gold reserves.

https://www.gov.scot/publications/foi-18-03510/#:~...
Its a link inregard to the first world war. Im not sure if its still the case but its what I remember being told in the past about the scottish currency

https://www.natwestgroupremembers.com/banking-in-w...

Your link asks the Scottish government if they have a gold reserve. They dont. Its with rbs, clydesdale, hbos etc in their private hands even though several banks are still part owned by the Uk government.

Edited by sherman on Thursday 22 April 23:37

Leithen

10,941 posts

268 months

Thursday 22nd April 2021
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Doesn't seem to be the case anymore.

https://www.scotbanks.org.uk/static/uploaded/8c982...

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 22nd April 2021
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sherman said:
Its a link inregard to the first world war. Im not sure if its still the case but its what I remember being told in the past about the scottish currency

https://www.natwestgroupremembers.com/banking-in-w...

Your link asks the Scottish government if they have a gold reserve. They dont. Its with rbs, clydesdale, hbos etc in their private hands even though several banks are still part owned by the Uk government.

Edited by sherman on Thursday 22 April 23:37
I see that it used to be the case, but I don't think many (any?) currencies nowadays are actually backed by physical assets like gold.

sherman

13,365 posts

216 months

Thursday 22nd April 2021
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Leithen said:
Doesn't seem to be the case anymore.

https://www.scotbanks.org.uk/static/uploaded/8c982...
Thats a shame frown

sherman

13,365 posts

216 months

Thursday 22nd April 2021
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Back to topic did anyone else think the snp guy on question time was pretty useless.
I particularly liked Willie rennie saying if indepence is persued people will die because other more important issues are?and will be ignored.

Anas sarwar seemed to have donechis statistics homework too.

hiccy18

2,690 posts

68 months

Friday 23rd April 2021
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I thought both Willie and Anas did a decent job of showing how poorly the SNP has performed and that continuous constitutional wrangling is genuinely harming peoples lives; both had their moments when they went firmly on the attack and left SNP bloke effectively speechless. I was annoyed that the costings of each parties manifesto promises were discussed in some depth with the exception of the SNP's which were quickly glossed over without any comments from opponents allowed.

I'm curious to know how much (if any) public funding has been received by the company Lorna Slater works for.

Jasey_

4,903 posts

179 months

Friday 23rd April 2021
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For the first time in years I was able to watch qt to the end.

And that was with that shouty Canadian tt .

The snp showing again that apart from people that sound like fish are without anyone that can talk effectively.

sbarclay62

619 posts

58 months

Friday 23rd April 2021
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This forum shows the flag-shaggers on both sides are completely deluded and easily fooled by a piece of cloth. George Galloway?? Seriously? If he was on Alba's side would you be saying you'd love to see him in Holyrood? Not a chance. A socialist from Dundee sat in front of a grand fireplace with a picture of Churchill, now best pals with tweedwearing toffs in the countryside? (Nothing wrong with that) but shows he's a complete and utter narcissist.
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