Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 10

Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 10

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Evercross

6,052 posts

65 months

Monday 23rd August 2021
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Alpacaman said:
Just when you think nationalists can't get any more ridiculous, a columnist for the Edinburgh Evening news throws away a jar of Baxters chutney and vows to never buy from them again. Why? because they didn't support independence and have appointed Ruth Davidson as a Director. Just ignore the fact they are a Scottish Company employing Scottish people. I can't believe this rubbish is published.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/opinio...
What's interesting about this story for me is how these companies must know how the rabid indynuts will react to these appointments, so they are effectively using the same logic that keeps the SNP in power but in reverse. Peeing off the indynuts gains lots of free publicity on the back of their social media foaming (and now mainstream news coverage) and galvanises those who cannot stand the SNP and their supporters and what they represent into backing the company as the put-upon underdog.

Plus of course their entire market outside Scotland doesn't give a st either way.

It's brilliant marketing and the indynuts are too stupid to realise they are driving it (oh, and not mention that Ruth Davidson is the one Toaree everyone grudgingly likes, even the indynuts who pretend not to).

Hill92

4,252 posts

191 months

Monday 23rd August 2021
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Ridgemont said:
What I don’t get is how a local paper thinks that it’s a good idea to print something (albeit an opinion piece) that only speaks to half of the likely readership, and which reads like a lunatic howling at the moon for the other half.
Because both halves will still read it to confirm their own views. The more outrageous the more it's shared, the more clicks they get and the more ad revenue they earn.

It's hardly anything new - most of the press have always gone for shock, outrage and titillation.

irc

7,375 posts

137 months

Tuesday 24th August 2021
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Yes. MP expenses. All. parties as bad as each other. Presumably the vast amount claimed for staff salaries includes the staff needed for claiming car mileage as low in one case as 9p for car mileage. What's that? 300 yards? Try walking, Aaron Bell you lazy Tory prick. The staff time processing this will exceed the Value of the claim.

https://www.mpsexpenses.info/#!/all

bigothunter

11,371 posts

61 months

Tuesday 24th August 2021
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Evercross said:
What's interesting about this story for me is how these companies must know how the rabid indynuts will react to these appointments, so they are effectively using the same logic that keeps the SNP in power but in reverse. Peeing off the indynuts gains lots of free publicity on the back of their social media foaming (and now mainstream news coverage) and galvanises those who cannot stand the SNP and their supporters and what they represent into backing the company as the put-upon underdog.

Plus of course their entire market outside Scotland doesn't give a st either way.

It's brilliant marketing and the indynuts are too stupid to realise they are driving it (oh, and not mention that Ruth Davidson is the one Toaree everyone grudgingly likes, even the indynuts who pretend not to).
I'll be looking out for Baxter's products on supermarket shelves. Could even buy a pack over the internet idea

the-sharpener

547 posts

34 months

Tuesday 24th August 2021
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I see two huge advocates of a free scotland are deeply proud of

completely dodging GBnews



Guess they prefer SnpTV

the-sharpener

547 posts

34 months

Tuesday 24th August 2021
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bigothunter said:
I'll be looking out for Baxter's products on supermarket shelves. Could even buy a pack over the internet idea
This is one of the things that annoys and frustrates the McGammons

They appear to be entirely focused on destroying businesses in scotland

And their prefered supermarket is Lidil as they stick a saltire on some stuff

So they prefer to put money towards a german business rather than support a local butcher/greengrocer/farm shop

s2kjock

1,693 posts

148 months

Tuesday 24th August 2021
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Ridgemont said:
What I don’t get is how a local paper thinks that it’s a good idea to print something (albeit an opinion piece) that only speaks to half of the likely readership, and which reads like a lunatic howling at the moon for the other half.
It's certainly not local to Speyside - she wouldn't dare write something like this in the P&J. Not that they would let her.

I don't think the Northern Scot does politics biggrin

The Edinburgh Evening News became little more than toilet paper years ago when prices went up in line with the reduction in journalistic quality - it used to be a decent local paper and I read it quite often but not for a very long time.

Martin has written in it for as long as I can remember, but I always thought she was just a liberal rather than in the navy - obviously that's changed since I read the paper properly (which was probably 20 odd years ago). She should stick to "bins, benches, and buses".

simoid

19,772 posts

159 months

Tuesday 24th August 2021
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I had a weird dream that I was in a supermarket last night and actively sought the Baxter’s soup. That’s enough internet for this week hehe

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 24th August 2021
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bigothunter said:
Evercross said:
What's interesting about this story for me is how these companies must know how the rabid indynuts will react to these appointments, so they are effectively using the same logic that keeps the SNP in power but in reverse. Peeing off the indynuts gains lots of free publicity on the back of their social media foaming (and now mainstream news coverage) and galvanises those who cannot stand the SNP and their supporters and what they represent into backing the company as the put-upon underdog.

Plus of course their entire market outside Scotland doesn't give a st either way.

It's brilliant marketing and the indynuts are too stupid to realise they are driving it (oh, and not mention that Ruth Davidson is the one Toaree everyone grudgingly likes, even the indynuts who pretend not to).
I'll be looking out for Baxter's products on supermarket shelves. Could even buy a pack over the internet idea
https://shop.baxters.com/


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APontus

1,935 posts

36 months

Tuesday 24th August 2021
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Wee Jimi on the telly box today at 12.15 to talk about rising Covid. Wonder what she's gonna threaten if you evil lot don't do as you're telt?

Pastor Of Muppets

3,282 posts

63 months

Tuesday 24th August 2021
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So nasty Nic's approval rating is dropping like a lead balloon, lowest net approval rating for Sturgeon yet recorded. The majority of Scots are seeing this woman for what she is.


alangla

4,861 posts

182 months

Tuesday 24th August 2021
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APontus said:
Wee Jimi on the telly box today at 12.15 to talk about rising Covid. Wonder what she's gonna threaten if you evil lot don't do as you're telt?
Travel restrictions were mentioned when they were going "beyond zero" - trips to Blackpool for the September weekend & October week will probably be kyboshed.
At a guess, probably also an extension to the ridiculous restrictions that are in place in schools as well, so masks indefinitely etc.

N7GTX

7,885 posts

144 months

Tuesday 24th August 2021
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She's not as popular as she thinks she is.


Tuna

19,930 posts

285 months

Tuesday 24th August 2021
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And yet how many will hold their noses and vote for her anyway, because she pretends to represent a goal that they think they want?

aparna

1,156 posts

38 months

Tuesday 24th August 2021
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Majority of Scots?

Disappointing for the thread that wilful mispresentation of this magnitude doesn’t go unchallenged.

To steal a phrase. Im not upset you lied. I’m upset that from now on I can’t believe you.

What’s the point? Might as well just passively follow the Twitter thread it’s all poached from.

the-sharpener

547 posts

34 months

Tuesday 24th August 2021
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aparna said:
Majority of Scots?

Disappointing for the thread that wilful mispresentation of this magnitude doesn’t go unchallenged.

To steal a phrase. Im not upset you lied. I’m upset that from now on I can’t believe you.

What’s the point? Might as well just passively follow the Twitter thread it’s all poached from.
Well find a SNP supporter that can answer the hard questions

bring them along

who knows

It might even convince some of us to vote SNP

Pastor Of Muppets

3,282 posts

63 months

Tuesday 24th August 2021
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Independence is over. The most recent GERS figures, the Cambo oilfield debacle and mass redundancy at a biscuit factory have hammered yet more nails into the coffin of Scottish independence.

Interesting piece again by Jonathan Stanley......... https://thinkscotland.org/2021/08/the-naive-scotti...

aparna

1,156 posts

38 months

Tuesday 24th August 2021
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the-sharpener said:
Well find a SNP supporter that can answer the hard questions

bring them along

who knows

It might even convince some of us to vote SNP
For various reasons, I think it unlikely a real SNP supporter will post on this thread unless there is a ref or election on to draw in the centre ground to moderate the discussion.

According to a poll I find via search, about 20% of PH Scots voted SNP in a past election. So I don’t think it’s because of lack of numbers.



Edited by aparna on Tuesday 24th August 11:03

Russ35

2,493 posts

240 months

Tuesday 24th August 2021
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alangla said:
Travel restrictions were mentioned when they were going "beyond zero" - trips to Blackpool for the September weekend & October week will probably be kyboshed.
At a guess, probably also an extension to the ridiculous restrictions that are in place in schools as well, so masks indefinitely etc.
Nothing will stop them coming down to Little Scotland (Blackpool). Once England started lifting lockdown Blackpool hotels were over run with Scottish guests.

roadtripboy

245 posts

143 months

Tuesday 24th August 2021
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To any pro-Indy types still reading this thread. Genuine question.

We are told that:
1. If we’d voted correctly in 2014, we wouldn’t have that awful Boris Johnson
2. Alex Salmond is even less popular than Boris Johnson

So, remind me:
If we’d voted correctly in 2014, who would be leading the independence negotiations?
And
Who would almost certainly be prime minister (at least) of an independent Scotland now?
And
Would his extracurricular activities have come to light?
And
How is that an improvement?
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