Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 10

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the-sharpener said:

If the roads are great in enemy territory and terrible in the choosen land

they get more grievance

This. The SNP don't want upgraded roads with the UK equivalent of the "Funded by EU signs" that used to be common. Or as I call them funded by the part of your cash we are handing back signs.

The voters might then start to believe there was genefits in being part of the UK>

[Braveheart300]

irc said:

the-sharpener said:

If the roads are great in enemy territory and terrible in the choosen land

they get more grievance

This. The SNP don't want upgraded roads with the UK equivalent of the "Funded by EU signs" that used to be common. Or as I call them funded by the part of your cash we are handing back signs.

The voters might then start to believe there was genefits in being part of the UK>

Also, are the Greens not against a lot of road upgrades that are in desperate need in some parts of the country? I mean i know up here in the NE, they are against a very very much needed duelling of the A96 to Inverness. Fecking shambles as always this lot.

[TheRainMaker]

After spending the last week up around Balloch, the roads are totally screwed, why on earth would you not want to be them fixed

[alangla]

Surely if the UK Government are bypassing the Scottish Government & going to the councils, that'll mean that local roads might get money spent, but the trunk roads won't be touched as they're maintained (or the outsourced maintenance contracts controlled by)/upgraded by Transport Scotland (i.e. controlled directly by the SNP at Holyrood). No doubt SNP authorities like Glasgow will be under orders from Sturgeon not to take the money, so we'll get to keep all our craters. Perfect opportunity for Tory or Labour (if they have any sense!) controlled councils to get a cash injection for local roads maintenance though.

[the-sharpener]

TheRainMaker said:

After spending the last week up around Balloch, the roads are totally screwed, why on earth would you not want to be them fixed

As voting for independence will mend the potholes

As well as ending cancer and bringing world peace

[simoid]

I hit a pothole recently that I didn’t even realise was a pothole as it was a rut over the entire width of the lane on Paisley road, under the Kingston Bridge. Think my car is still shaking

[A.J.M]

Given how underfunded the roads have been for years and how bad they are.

I can’t understand the logic behind refusing the cash to fix them.

This is proper petty politics now that can’t be supported by anyone with an ounce of common sense.

[roadtripboy]

The National, predictably, painting it as a power grab as the SG have been ignored. Just like, errr, they wanted…

[Pastor Of Muppets]

roadtripboy said:

The National, predictably, painting it as a power grab as the SG have been ignored. Just like, errr, they wanted…

Only the most seriously impaired brain will see that as a power grab. If that's what the SNP intention was to make it look like, they've got it well wrong. Another failure, it's what the SNP are experts in.

[Pastor Of Muppets]

This smells particularly rancid, It appears Humza’s nursery complaint was either thrown out, or he is stopping them from investigating by launching legal action. Either that or he's completely ignoring the Complaints procedure altogether, now wouldn't that surprise us.

https://action4equalityscotland.blogspot.com/2021/...

[Scotty2]

I was just thinking we had not heard about that for a while. From previous form I'd wager he had played the "Don't you know who I am" card and the nursery didn't want to deal with him so he got uppity and threatened them (IMHO).

[N7GTX]

Bloody arrogant prick that he is.

If the nursery need some legal financial support I'll gladly send them some.

[Se7enheaven]

N7GTX said:

Bloody arrogant prick that he is.

If the nursery need some legal financial support I'll gladly send them some.

I’m with you on this one. The loser makes my blood pressure and temp raise similar to lava exploding from a volcano

[s2kjock]

Braveheart300 said:

Also, are the Greens not against a lot of road upgrades that are in desperate need in some parts of the country? I mean i know up here in the NE, they are against a very very much needed duelling of the A96 to Inverness. Fecking shambles as always this lot.

Their manifesto/policy is no roadbuilding that adds capacity, but the draft collaboration agreement sets out areas where they "agree to disagree".

This is what they say re the A96:

"The Scottish National Party and Scottish Green Party have and will maintain distinct positions of the dualling of the A96. However, as part of this agreement, the Scottish Government will take forward a transport enhancements programme on the A96 corridor that improves connectivity between surrounding towns, tackles congestion and addresses safety and environmental issues. This will include:

1. dualling from Inverness to Nairn.
2. bypassing of Nairn, Keith, Elgin and Inverurie accompanied by measures to remove through traffic from the by-passed town centres.
3. targeted road safety improvements where needed, for example between Fochabers and Huntly and Inverurie to Aberdeen.
4. the development of an A96 “Electric Highway”."

Given it took 4 years to dual the A9 Luncarty to Birnam it will be at least 10 years before before Nairn is bypassed I suspect, even if they find the money.

Elgin is a massive job and will be at least 20 years I suspect (money permitting) - couldn't comment on the others as I don't know them well enough.

Number 3 is probably the most likely to happen first in practice I would imagine as no extra capacity, and probably cheapest.

Number 4

Bare in mind the SNP had committed to dual the whole of of the A9 to Inverness by 2025 and it will have taken 4 years to do the Luncarty part (6 miles), with another 50-60 miles to go I wouldn't be holding my breath.

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Se7enheaven said:

N7GTX said:

Bloody arrogant prick that he is.

If the nursery need some legal financial support I'll gladly send them some.

I’m with you on this one. The loser makes my blood pressure and temp raise similar to lava exploding from a volcano

I'd drop a few quid to crowdfund their defence.

[the-sharpener]

s2kjock said:

Bare in mind the SNP had committed to dual the whole of of the A9 to Inverness by 2025 and it will have taken 4 years to do the Luncarty part (6 miles), with another 50-60 miles to go I wouldn't be holding my breath.

And they need only say it is on track and the faithful will call it far right fake news if anyone points at the total lack of any road building

I pretty certain they could even claim it was actually open and the faithful would parrot it as a fact despite a distinct lack of an actual road

i remember when the AWPR was finished but hadn't been opened due to someone somewhere playing silly buggers with the legal side

but the SNP said it was still under construction despite it being used as the worlds largest and widest cycle path by the men in lycra and anyone driving around aberdeen could see miles of completely complete tarmac

[irc]

"Bare in mind the SNP had committed to dual the whole of of the A9 to Inverness by 2025"

The SNP fail to meet targets all the time relying on the fact their supporters are feeble minded enough to have forgotten the promises a few years down the line.

[bigothunter]

the-sharpener said:

s2kjock said:

Bare in mind the SNP had committed to dual the whole of of the A9 to Inverness by 2025 and it will have taken 4 years to do the Luncarty part (6 miles), with another 50-60 miles to go I wouldn't be holding my breath.

And they need only say it is on track and the faithful will call it far right fake news if anyone points at the total lack of any road building

I pretty certain they could even claim it was actually open and the faithful would parrot it as a fact despite a distinct lack of an actual road

i remember when the AWPR was finished but hadn't been opened due to someone somewhere playing silly buggers with the legal side

but the SNP said it was still under construction despite it being used as the worlds largest and widest cycle path by the men in lycra and anyone driving around aberdeen could see miles of completely complete tarmac

How does road building align with Green Party policy in their new SNP alliance?

"We will cease funding road building projects that add capacity to the network and redirect funds toward safety improvements, maintenance of existing infrastructure, public transport, cycling and walking."

https://greens.scot/ourfuture/transport

[s2kjock]

I haven't checked recently, but I think the A96 dualling commitment was by 2030 originally. The faithful won't put up the with it forever.

I also understand the teuchter greens are unhappy with the agenda being driven by the middle class townie greens as it completely overlooks the transport difficulties faced by those in rural Scotland.

Hopefully politics will get more interesting up North.

[csd19]

If they keep the roads in an utterly st state then no-one will want to drive on them. I was back home in Edinburgh seeing the folks for a few days, holy fk there's some serious road repairs required now.

Large sections of top layer just gone, sunken drain covers everywhere and potholes galore.

Greeny-influenced s. Seeing as they are watermelons, maybe we should peel the greens and use their skin to repaint the Greenways, then use the red insides to repaint the no-stopping lines at Roseburn...