The EU v UK vaccine tussle

[anonymous-user]

anonymous said:

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[CraigyMc]

i4got said:

DeltonaS said:

Like the English waiting for big brother USA and Russia to save them from their isle/a 5 year lock-down you mean.

You couldn't even win the Falkland war without help:
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/02684...

And indeed you misted the Dutch vaccine and production programm by Janssen.

You mean the US vaccine from a subsidiary of Johnson & Johnson? Big brother USA indeed.

I always thought Janssen was a Belgian subsidiary of J&J.
Checked: it is. Based in Beerse.
How is it a "Dutch Vaccine"?

Is it being contract manufactured in the Netherlands just like the AZ one? Is the AZ vaccine Dutch now?

[CraigyMc]

anonymous said:

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The Sun just hired you. No, you don't get a choice in the matter, it's fate.

[JuanCarlosFandango]

anonymous said:

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[Vanden Saab]

jsf said:

anonymous said:

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Genius..

[Troubleatmill]

Vanden Saab said:

jsf said:

anonymous said:

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Genius..

No - Plagarism....

[CraigyMc]

Northernboy said:

CraigyMc said:

My last holiday before lockdown was on Texel with some of my mates from Rosendaal and Breda. I don't really undestand why DeltonaS holds the opinions he does.

Maybe it's just venting? I could totally get that.

Insomuch as any country could be said to have a character, he doesn’t have it.

I wonder if he’s one of the locals who’ve been priced out of Amsterdam by immigrants such as me. Even then though, most are pragmatic about it, they know that it’s a cost of the country attracting foreign talent.

I dunno.

In my experience, the main thing about Dutch folk is that they appear incapable of (or simply don't want to appear to be able to) whisper or be discreet.
Like, getting stuff out in the open is really healthy, no matter the subject matter. (debt? STDs? your Dutch mate will yell about it over a room of your dearest friends...)

I've never come across anyone from the Netherlands who was argumentative just for the sake of it. Well, maybe one, but the jury is out on DeltonaS

[anonymous-user]

CraigyMc said:

I dunno.

In my experience, the main thing about Dutch folk is that they appear incapable of (or simply don't want to appear to be able to) whisper or be discreet.
Like, getting stuff out in the open is really healthy, no matter the subject matter. (debt? STDs? your Dutch mate will yell about it over a room of your dearest friends...)

I've never come across anyone from the Netherlands who was argumentative just for the sake of it. Well, maybe one, but the jury is out on DeltonaS

I've got Dutch mates all over the world and always enjoy my visits to Zandvoort, I've never met any that aren't good fun, the ladies can be stunners. Deltona is very much the exception to the rule from my experience. This character is just plain weird.

[Northernboy]

Troubleatmill said:

No - Plagarism....

That was clearly the joke, amending that famous headline.

[nikaiyo2]

DeltonaS said:

The Falklands were liberated succesfully ?, Those poor Falklanders, home of a mere 2.800 people. As if that was the prime concern back than.

By the way; I meant Falklands in the sence that the English national identy seems to be totally hung up on something trivial as a vaccination programm.

Similar trivial as liberating a piece of rock thousands of miles away in a corner of the world nobody cares about but a military junta and old England that thought it had something to prove.

Good story by the way: how Philips won the Falkland war :
https://www.vpro.nl/argos/lees/onderwerpen/cryptol...

Edited by DeltonaS on Thursday 25th February 22:08

Good job old England had something to prove during the Dutch Revolt isn’t it? Or do you secretly long for Spanish rule?

I suppose if it was not for England you would have an F1 world champ, let’s face MV is not good enough, destined to be an Alesi, Barrichello or Heinz-Harald Frentzen (although they all managed to win without cars designed entirely for them) as opposed to a Jones, Rosberg or Damon Hill.

Edited by nikaiyo2 on Thursday 25th February 23:20

Edited by nikaiyo2 on Thursday 25th February 23:31

[TriumphStag3.0V8]

NextSlidePlease said:

loafer123 said:

Blib said:

Four in five Oxford Covid jabs delivered to EU not yet used.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/25/acce...

Mutti said:

Asked whether she would volunteer to be administered with the vaccine, Merkel added: “I am 66 years old and I do not belong to the recommended group for AstraZeneca.”

Well that's not going to exactly help, is it?!

The answer should have been "of course, now that we have real world data from Scotland showing excellent results in terms of reduction in the risk of hospitalisation I can assure everyone that the AZ vaccine is safe and effective, and I urge those people offered the vaccine to come forward to receive it"

Macron does the same and voila, the vaccine program gains traction.

It's like they are trying as hard as they can to make things worse. What the hell are they thinking?

[TriumphStag3.0V8]

NextSlidePlease said:

NextSlidePlease said:

loafer123 said:

Blib said:

Four in five Oxford Covid jabs delivered to EU not yet used.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/25/acce...

Mutti said:

Asked whether she would volunteer to be administered with the vaccine, Merkel added: “I am 66 years old and I do not belong to the recommended group for AstraZeneca.”

Well that's not going to exactly help, is it?!

The answer should have been "of course, now that we have real world data from Scotland showing excellent results in terms of reduction in the risk of hospitalisation I can assure everyone that the AZ vaccine is safe and effective, and I urge those people offered the vaccine to come forward to receive it"

Macron does the same and voila, the vaccine program gains traction.

Ah fk, 5 minutes after typing this i am told my grandmother who is 85 and lives in the ROI, has contracted covid whilst in hospital. She went in with a knee injury.

She hasn't had her vaccine yet. Ireland arent giving the AZ vaccine to the over 65's.

Sorry to hear that, hope she recovers.

[anonymous-user]

nikaiyo2 said:

DeltonaS said:

The Falklands were liberated succesfully ?, Those poor Falklanders, home of a mere 2.800 people. As if that was the prime concern back than.

By the way; I meant Falklands in the sence that the English national identy seems to be totally hung up on something trivial as a vaccination programm.

Similar trivial as liberating a piece of rock thousands of miles away in a corner of the world nobody cares about but a military junta and old England that thought it had something to prove.

Good story by the way: how Philips won the Falkland war :
https://www.vpro.nl/argos/lees/onderwerpen/cryptol...

Edited by DeltonaS on Thursday 25th February 22:08

Good job old England had something to prove during the Dutch Revolt isn’t it?

Edited by nikaiyo2 on Thursday 25th February 23:20

This was something I'd never heard about until recently: First War of the Coalition (1792-1797).

https://www.itv.com/news/2021-02-19/mass-grave-of-...

[CraigyMc]

DeltonaS said:

Good story by the way: how Philips won the Falkland war :
https://www.vpro.nl/argos/lees/onderwerpen/cryptol...

That page has no references to the Falklands at all. D'you want to explain what you're talking about?

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DeltonaS said:

i4got said:

vaud said:

DeltonaS said:

Similar trivial as liberating a piece of rock thousands of miles away in a corner of the world nobody cares about but a military junta and old England that thought it had something to prove.

Like defending and liberating it's citizens?

You have to make allowances that Deltona may be from a culture that is used to waiting for others to save them rather than acting for themselves. (Excuse me if I missed the news about the Dutch vaccine invention and production program)

Like the English waiting for big brother USA and Russia to save them from their isle/a 5 year lock-down you mean.

You couldn't even win the Falkland war without help:
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/02684...

And indeed you misted the Dutch vaccine and production programm by Janssen.

Edited by DeltonaS on Thursday 25th February 22:16

Oh my word, what pathetic desperation.

I mean we expect gibberish from you, we expect you to be so wrong on things that you claim to be fact that your posts amuse everyone immensely, but dearey me you are really struggling tonight aren't you.

"Something as insignificant as a vaccine programme"

When the world is locked down in the grip of a pandemic, with hundreds of thousands dying? My word, whatever tenuous grip on reality you had has completely left you.

As for the Falklands, just WTF have you been smoking tonight?

Edited by TriumphStag3.0V8 on Thursday 25th February 23:43

[Muddle238]

DeltonaS said:

By the way; I meant Falklands in the sence that the English national identy seems to be totally hung up on something trivial as a vaccination programm.

Edited by DeltonaS on Thursday 25th February 22:08

Words fail me, this should be renamed The Deltona vs. UK Tussle thread.

Apparently saving lives is a trivial matter, according to Deltona. If it’s trivial, I don’t know why he’s so upset about the UK’s excellent vaccine programme.

[Northernboy]

TriumphStag3.0V8 said:

Oh my word, what pathetic desperation.

I mean we expect gibberish from you, we expect you to be so wrong on things that you claim to be fact that your posts amuse everyone immensely, but dearly me you are really struggling tonight aren't you.

"Something as insignificant as a vaccine programme"

when the world is locked down in the grip of a pandemic, with hundreds of thousands dying. My word, whatever tenuous grip on reality you had has completely left you.

As for the Falklands, just WTF have you been smoking tonight?

I wonder if he’s a neighbour of mine.

Hey, DeltonaS, my Dutch place is in De Pijp in Amsterdam, are you local?

I’ll be having a ludicrously large and lavish party once your country sorts itself out; would you fancy coming over? You can earn yourself a bit of pocket money serving the drinks.

[ettore]

vaud said:

Like defending and liberating it's citizens?

Something generally the Dutch recognise with a high degree of warmth and empathy. Many commonwealth war graves in the Netherlands.

Perhaps Deltona was at Srebrenica - Dutch efforts less successful?

[anonymous-user]

ettore said:

Something generally the Dutch recognise with a high degree of warmth and empathy. Many commonwealth war graves in the Netherlands.

Indeed, my first ever trip to mainland Europe involved a trip to Overloon to have a look at the war museum and then pay my respects to the nearby war grave. That was back in 1982.

https://www.cwgc.org/visit-us/find-cemeteries-memo...

"The Netherlands fell to the Germans in May 1940 and was not re-entered by Allied forces until September 1944. There was severe fighting in the vicinity of Overloon in October-November 1944, when the Germans were being cleared out of the region south and west of the Maas in preparation for the final attack on the Rhineland. Most of the burials in Overloon War Cemetery are of men who died during these months. The cemetery contains 280 Commonwealth burials of the Second World War, and one Dutch war grave."

[Tony427]

andy_s said:

thepeoplespal said:

Don't know if people have watching Dr John Campbell daily analysis...

All the time; very good commentator this past year.

I don't always agree with him but the guy , with his pushing of Vitamin D etc has undoubtedly saved lives.

He should definitely get some recognition for his daily grind of videos and investigation.