The EU v UK vaccine tussle

[loafer123]

sunbeam alpine said:

i4got said:

sunbeam alpine said:

To give this some perspective -

From - https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2020/11/12/pharma-compan...

"The covid-19 vaccine being co-developed by Oxford University and AstraZeneca was originally discovered by Oxford’s Jenner Institute and has received more than a billion pounds of public funding... "

Nearly 40% of that funding came directly from the EU. At this point in time Astra Zeneca has delivered less than 30% of the agreed doses within the EU, citing production problems. It appears, however, that they have sufficient production within the EU to ship to Australia.

Id be interested to see where the 40% EU figure came from. It's the first I've heard of it. Every statistic i've seen highlights how little funding was provided by the EU compared to the UK and the US.

For some reason I can't cut and paste from the document, but if you search for "APA_-_AstraZeneca.pdf" you'll see in Para 7.2 that the EU contributed €336 million toward the cost of development.

I think they were contracted to do so, but that not all of the money had been drawn down.

[Earthdweller]

loafer123 said:

jsf said:

Earthdweller said:

That might be way forward I’ll ring them on Monday. We both are registered with GP’s in England and still pay tax in U.K. and are resident

Not sure how that will work with NI as we are staying in the South at the moment .. but there’s no harm in asking

And if necessary hopefully I can get done as her carer ( which I am )

I’ll let you know what they say on Monday

Thanks

Best of luck.

Try the online booking system. https://vaccinations.covid-19.hscni.net/booking

Yes....don’t ask and be a subjective decision by someone...use the online booking system and, assuming you are eligible, all will be sorted.

Just to let you know my mum is now booked in for a vaccine on Friday at a centre in NI

They couldn’t have been more helpful

Thanks all

[Wombat3]

Earthdweller said:

Just to let you know my mum is now booked in for a vaccine on Friday at a centre in NI

They couldn’t have been more helpful

Thanks all

Excellent news !

[anonymous-user]

Earthdweller said:

loafer123 said:

jsf said:

Earthdweller said:

That might be way forward I’ll ring them on Monday. We both are registered with GP’s in England and still pay tax in U.K. and are resident

Not sure how that will work with NI as we are staying in the South at the moment .. but there’s no harm in asking

And if necessary hopefully I can get done as her carer ( which I am )

I’ll let you know what they say on Monday

Thanks

Best of luck.

Try the online booking system. https://vaccinations.covid-19.hscni.net/booking

Yes....don’t ask and be a subjective decision by someone...use the online booking system and, assuming you are eligible, all will be sorted.

Just to let you know my mum is now booked in for a vaccine on Friday at a centre in NI

They couldn’t have been more helpful

Thanks all

Great news, hope it all goes well.

[Northernboy]

RedWhiteMonkey said:

You jest surely, tell me how fast 50kph in mph is.

31, which is the whole point of my post; we spent tens of millions in purpose-built facilities to be able to match the EU requirements.

We didn’t have to, but the UK had a history of gold-plating some of the rules.

[RedWhiteMonkey]

Northernboy said:

31, which is the whole point of my post; we spent tens of millions in purpose-built facilities to be able to match the EU requirements.

We didn’t have to, but the UK had a history of gold-plating some of the rules.

Which new test centres were built for millions of pounds then? The link to the new legislation just gives some manoeuvres that must be carried out at a minimum of 50kph, I find it hard to believe that any driving test was ever only carried out within 30mph zones and even more incredible that any existing test centre was too far from a 40, 50 or 60mph limited area. Where were these oddly located old centres and where were the new ones built?

[Northernboy]

RedWhiteMonkey said:

Which new test centres were built for millions of pounds then? The link to the new legislation just gives some manoeuvres that must be carried out at a minimum of 50kph, I find it hard to believe that any driving test was ever only carried out within 30mph zones and even more incredible that any existing test centre was too far from a 40, 50 or 60mph limited area. Where were these oddly located old centres and where were the new ones built?

I read about it in the bike press at the time, in hard copy, so have no links for that, but the Mail has a page on it in their archives.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1055593/E...

[Teddy Lop]

RedWhiteMonkey said:

Which new test centres were built for millions of pounds then? The link to the new legislation just gives some manoeuvres that must be carried out at a minimum of 50kph, I find it hard to believe that any driving test was ever only carried out within 30mph zones and even more incredible that any existing test centre was too far from a 40, 50 or 60mph limited area. Where were these oddly located old centres and where were the new ones built?

isn't the cbt the bit you have to pass before you're allowed to practise on the public highway?

[Previous]

Teddy Lop said:

In France or Italy facing this kind of problem they'd go "ah, well, we'll interpret the rule as 30mph being satisfactory." And be sensible.

TBH France would be more likely to set up a whole section of government to create new rules, and various forms on this issue. They'd then ignore all those rules and interpret it anyway. Because France.

[anonymous-user]

RedWhiteMonkey said:

Northernboy said:

31, which is the whole point of my post; we spent tens of millions in purpose-built facilities to be able to match the EU requirements.

We didn’t have to, but the UK had a history of gold-plating some of the rules.

Which new test centres were built for millions of pounds then? The link to the new legislation just gives some manoeuvres that must be carried out at a minimum of 50kph, I find it hard to believe that any driving test was ever only carried out within 30mph zones and even more incredible that any existing test centre was too far from a 40, 50 or 60mph limited area. Where were these oddly located old centres and where were the new ones built?

UK has plenty of industry test venues, have done since the car was invented, also plenty of former airfields for straight line testing. MIRA and Millbrook are two of the purpose built facilities. Someone is spinning a yarn.

[Northernboy]

jsf said:

UK has plenty of industry test venues, have done since the car was invented, also plenty of former airfields for straight line testing. MIRA and Millbrook are two of the purpose built facilities. Someone is spinning a yarn.

I’m not sure if you are taking the piss here, or just haven’t read the thread.

Centres for motorbike tests. Purpose built ones. I even gave a link to a newspaper report on them. You do understand, don’t you, the difference between a driving test and the testing that is done at MIRA?

[anonymous-user]

Northernboy said:

I’m not sure if you are taking the piss here, or just haven’t read the thread.

Centres for motorbike tests. Purpose built ones. I even gave a link to a newspaper report on them. You do understand, don’t you, the difference between a driving test and the testing that is done at MIRA?

I didn't click on the mail link. Have now. What a load of bks.

[Pebbles167]

jsf said:

Northernboy said:

I’m not sure if you are taking the piss here, or just haven’t read the thread.

Centres for motorbike tests. Purpose built ones. I even gave a link to a newspaper report on them. You do understand, don’t you, the difference between a driving test and the testing that is done at MIRA?

I didn't click on the mail link. Have now. What a load of bks.

I thought this was true. I had to head out to Bristol to fo my test, despite doing my training 30 miles east of there, where I live.

I asked why we had to do tests at Bristol, the reason given was that maneuvering had to be carried out at 50kph which was 31mph. For this, the test centres needed a large yard type area to do the Mod 1 test.

Not 100% but it seems plausible.

[CaptainSlow]

What on earth are you lot babbling on about.

The MOD1 component of an A/A1/A2 test has to be done on an off the road site. I did mine at Uxbridge that had a high grip surface installed. Two of the tested components have to be done at over 50kph...or over 48kph but you get a minor fault.

Watching MOD1 tests can be quite amusing and you'll soon see why doing it on the road would be a bad idea, and thats before getting other traffic involved.

[Jordan210]

The great EU now upset Russia.

"EU embroiled in fresh vaccine row - this time with Russia - after medical regulator warned using its Sputnik V jab is 'like playing Russian roulette'"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9341605/E...

[Digga]

Jordan210 said:

The great EU now upset Russia.

"EU embroiled in fresh vaccine row - this time with Russia - after medical regulator warned using its Sputnik V jab is 'like playing Russian roulette'"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9341605/E...

Where do I sign up?

[HappyMidget]

They really just cannot help themselves can they? They aren't going to have any feet left the rate they keep shooting themselves!

[Northernboy]

Pebbles167 said:

I thought this was true. I had to head out to Bristol to fo my test, despite doing my training 30 miles east of there, where I live.

I asked why we had to do tests at Bristol, the reason given was that maneuvering had to be carried out at 50kph which was 31mph. For this, the test centres needed a large yard type area to do the Mod 1 test.

Not 100% but it seems plausible.

It was covered in great detail in the motorbike press at the time, and much derided.

[anonymous-user]

Von de layen with more nutty nonsense.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-08...

[Mrr T]

Jordan210 said:

The great EU now upset Russia.

"EU embroiled in fresh vaccine row - this time with Russia - after medical regulator warned using its Sputnik V jab is 'like playing Russian roulette'"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9341605/E...

Any connection between the DM story and reality is pure coincidence. But frothers have to froth.

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20210308-eu-...