The EU v UK vaccine tussle

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jimKRFC

484 posts

143 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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Mrr T said:
Sarcasm from some one who does not know Russian roulette is nothing to do with Russia. Classic.
It was the EMA that used the term "Russian Roulette" - not Jordan or Catweasle.....

It was in your link...

anonymous-user

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55 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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Mrr T said:
catweasle said:
Mrr T said:
catweasle said:
Mrr T said:
catweasle said:
Mrr T said:
Jordan210 said:
The great EU now upset Russia.

"EU embroiled in fresh vaccine row - this time with Russia - after medical regulator warned using its Sputnik V jab is 'like playing Russian roulette'"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9341605/E...
Any connection between the DM story and reality is pure coincidence. But frothers have to froth.

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20210308-eu-...
What am I missing?
DM headline maybe?

EU embroiled in fresh vaccine row - this time with Russia

The France 24 story is clear there is no row between the EU and Russia. Indeed, the Sputnik vaccine has been approved by several EU counties and data is being reviewed by the EU agency. This is a discussion between the head of the Austrian agency, who happens to also be chair of the EU agency, as to whether Austria should go it alone or rely on a common approach. But that would be a boring story when the DM can get frothers frothing.

Edited by Mrr T on Tuesday 9th March 12:06
The only person I see frothing is you.

eta the France 24 headline "EU medical official warns of Sputnik jab 'Russian roulette'"... doesn't say anything about Austria until you read down further so they no different headline than the DM then.

Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 9th March 12:20
You do know Russian Roulette has nothing to do with Russia?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_roulette
True to form a wiki link!........never been more apt although there seems to be a few stars missing;




Sarcasm from some one who does not know Russian roulette is nothing to do with Russia. Classic.
You are not really very bright are you.where would you be without Wiki and / or goggle eh?

Mrr T

12,284 posts

266 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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jimKRFC said:
Mrr T said:
Sarcasm from some one who does not know Russian roulette is nothing to do with Russia. Classic.
It was the EMA that used the term "Russian Roulette" - not Jordan or Catweasle.....

It was in your link...
The original link from the DM claimed the EU was having a row with Russian. My link suggests the chairman of the EMA used the term when referring to her counties government as it was considing approving the vaccination.

Since the term Russian roulette has nothing to do with Russia and the comments was directed at the Austrian government.

I would suggest the DM story is a load of bull. But frothers have to froth.

Mrr T

12,284 posts

266 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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catweasle said:
You are not really very bright are you.where would you be without Wiki and / or goggle eh?
Maybe be but at least I am bright enough to know the term Russian roulette is nothing to do with Russia. I posted the wiki link to assist you since you did not know.

turbobloke

104,074 posts

261 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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Mrr T said:
jimKRFC said:
Mrr T said:
Sarcasm from some one who does not know Russian roulette is nothing to do with Russia. Classic.
It was the EMA that used the term "Russian Roulette" - not Jordan or Catweasle.....

It was in your link...
The original link from the DM claimed the EU was having a row with Russian. My link suggests the chairman of the EMA used the term when referring to her counties government as it was considing approving the vaccination.

Since the term Russian roulette has nothing to do with Russia and the comments was directed at the Austrian government.

I would suggest the DM story is a load of bull. But frothers have to froth.
And irony meters have to explode.

TriumphStag3.0V8

3,871 posts

82 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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Mrr T said:
jimKRFC said:
Mrr T said:
Sarcasm from some one who does not know Russian roulette is nothing to do with Russia. Classic.
It was the EMA that used the term "Russian Roulette" - not Jordan or Catweasle.....

It was in your link...
The original link from the DM claimed the EU was having a row with Russian. My link suggests the chairman of the EMA used the term when referring to her counties government as it was considing approving the vaccination.

Since the term Russian roulette has nothing to do with Russia and the comments was directed at the Austrian government.

I would suggest the DM story is a load of bull. But frothers have to froth.
You do realise that the Sputnik vaccine is Russian though, right?

And that he was saying that using it is like Russian Roulette, right? Thereby claiming it is dangerous.

Are you following so far? Feel free to read the above again if not, I'll wait.

OK, good.

Now, let's add two and two together. We have an EU official involved with the EMA vaccine approval saying that the Russian vaccine could be dangerous.

Do you think that could upset the Russians, not use of the phrase "Russian Roulette"?

Take your time.

don'tbesilly

13,940 posts

164 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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Mrr T said:
jimKRFC said:
Mrr T said:
Sarcasm from some one who does not know Russian roulette is nothing to do with Russia. Classic.
It was the EMA that used the term "Russian Roulette" - not Jordan or Catweasle.....

It was in your link...
The original link from the DM claimed the EU was having a row with Russian. My link suggests the chairman of the EMA used the term when referring to her counties government as it was considing approving the vaccination.

Since the term Russian roulette has nothing to do with Russia and the comments was directed at the Austrian government.

I would suggest the DM story is a load of bull. But frothers have to froth.
EMA:
The European Medicines Agency (EMA) is a decentralised agency of the European Union (EU) responsible for the scientific evaluation, supervision and safety monitoring of medicines in the EU.



Christa Wirthumer-Hoche, the head of EMA’s management board, told a talk show on Austrian broadcaster ORF on March 7 that she advised European Union countries against granting Sputnik V a national emergency authorisation while EMA was still reviewing the Russian vaccine’s safety and effectiveness.

“We demand a public apology from EMA’s Christa Wirthumer-Hoche for her negative comments on EU states directly approving Sputnik V,” the vaccine developers wrote on the official Sputnik V Twitter account.

“Her comments raise serious questions about possible political interference in the ongoing EMA review,” they said.

The developers added that the vaccine had already been approved by 46 countries.

“After postponing Sputnik V review for months, EMA does not have the right to undermine (the) credibility of 46 other regulators that reviewed all of the necessary data,” Sputnik V’s developers said.

Sputnik V has already been approved or is being assessed for approval in three EU member states - Hungary, Slovakia and the Czech Republic. EU officials have said Brussels could start negotiations with a vaccine maker if at least four member countries request it.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavi...

I would suggest what you claim to be bull differs to what many would agree was far from bull, which comes as little surprise.

Edited by don'tbesilly on Tuesday 9th March 14:09

TriumphStag3.0V8

3,871 posts

82 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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Mrr T said:
You do know Russian Roulette has nothing to do with Russia?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_roulette
That link to Wikipedia does not appear to back up your statement though. Would you care to elaborate?

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

55 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
Mrr T said:
You do know Russian Roulette has nothing to do with Russia?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_roulette
That link to Wikipedia does not appear to back up your statement though. Would you care to elaborate?
laugh


anonymous-user

Original Poster:

55 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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Mrr T said:
catweasle said:
You are not really very bright are you.where would you be without Wiki and / or goggle eh?
Maybe be but at least I am bright enough to know the term Russian roulette is nothing to do with Russia. I posted the wiki link to assist you since you did not know.
Are you? really? you are getting more like ES every day.....make stuff up in your own head about what someone posts and then believe it's true.........carry on dear chap, carry on.

Northernboy

12,642 posts

258 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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Mrr T said:
Sarcasm from some one who does not know Russian roulette is nothing to do with Russia. Classic.
Why would you say that though? The Wikipedia link shows Russia as being the place of origin for the practice.

Mrr T

12,284 posts

266 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
Mrr T said:
You do know Russian Roulette has nothing to do with Russia?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_roulette
That link to Wikipedia does not appear to back up your statement though. Would you care to elaborate?
The term seems to have first used by a Swiss in a novel about Russian officers in Rumania (sic).

So not really a real link.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

55 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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Mrr T said:
The term seems to have first used by a Swiss in a novel about Russian officers in Rumania (sic).

So not really a real link.
laugh

anonymous-user

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55 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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From YOUR Wiki link - Origin:
"According to Andrew Clarke, the first trace of Russian roulette can be found in the story "The Fatalist" of 1840, part of the collection A Hero of Our Time by Mikhail Lermontov, a Russian poet and writer."

FiF

44,176 posts

252 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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FFS, really, on the one hand arguing about who invented the term Russian Roulette.

On the other hand von der Leyen announces there will be further blocks of vaccine exports. Move against Australia not a one off apparently.

Emergency aid about to be shipped to Brussels to get help dig UvdL out of the hole.



Ooops sorry, need to clean the soil off.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

55 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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FiF said:
FFS, really, on the one hand arguing about who invented the term Russian Roulette.

On the other hand von der Leyen announces there will be further blocks of vaccine exports. Move against Australia not a one off apparently.

Emergency aid about to be shipped to Brussels to get help dig UvdL out of the hole.



Ooops sorry, need to clean the soil off.
Send it via NI, soil not an issue now. laugh

TriumphStag3.0V8

3,871 posts

82 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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Mrr T said:
TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
Mrr T said:
You do know Russian Roulette has nothing to do with Russia?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_roulette
That link to Wikipedia does not appear to back up your statement though. Would you care to elaborate?
The term seems to have first used by a Swiss in a novel about Russian officers in Rumania (sic).

So not really a real link.
Let me see if I understand this......

A story about Russian military officers, and things they do has nothing to do with Russia.

Nothing at all.

Completely unrelated.

Is that what you are saying?

And you are claiming to be more intelligent than someone else, based on that position?


Just to be clear, the Swiss that apparently wrote the Novel. Where was he/she when they did so?

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

55 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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Mrr T said:
The term seems to have first used by a Swiss in a novel about Russian officers in Rumania (sic).

So not really a real link.
laugh

Murph7355

37,768 posts

257 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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Mrr T said:
TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
Mrr T said:
You do know Russian Roulette has nothing to do with Russia?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_roulette
That link to Wikipedia does not appear to back up your statement though. Would you care to elaborate?
The term seems to have first used by a Swiss in a novel about Russian officers in Rumania (sic).

So not really a real link.
I don't think it matters how many times you post it MrrT...it doesn't get any better biggrin Best to just let it go. Take it on the chin.

Otherwise you're playing Russian roulette with posters on here biggrin

FiF

44,176 posts

252 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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Either way it's just effing hilarious.

Just had a message at PH reception from Central Couriers, the collection ordered to pick up someone's credibility has left empty handed as it turned out nothing was available to be collected.