CV19 - Cure worse than the disease? (Vol 10)

[Biker 1]

amgmcqueen said:

If you believe that, you'll believe anything.

Hands up how many here actually wear a bloody mask in order to protect others?
Fair enough if visiting some old dear in a care home, & I can understand why hospitals might require them, but Joe Public in Asda? Really?

[Alucidnation]

Biker 1 said:

amgmcqueen said:

If you believe that, you'll believe anything.

Hands up how many here actually wear a bloody mask in order to protect others?
Fair enough if visiting some old dear in a care home, & I can understand why hospitals might require them, but Joe Public in Asda? Really?

Why not?

If they are that ineffective, why wear one when visiting ‘some old dear’?

[anonymous-user]

Carrot said:

Dr Susan Hopkins really should fk off...

I’d love to see that being policed!

[mike80]

Politeness, don't want the hassle etc.

[anonymous-user]

Alucidnation said:

Biker 1 said:

amgmcqueen said:

If you believe that, you'll believe anything.

Hands up how many here actually wear a bloody mask in order to protect others?
Fair enough if visiting some old dear in a care home, & I can understand why hospitals might require them, but Joe Public in Asda? Really?

Why not?

If they are that ineffective, why wear one when visiting ‘some old dear’?

Politeness you muppet!

Most are worn just to get into Tesco, Waitrose etc.

[Colonel Cupcake]

Alucidnation said:

Biker 1 said:

amgmcqueen said:

If you believe that, you'll believe anything.

Hands up how many here actually wear a bloody mask in order to protect others?
Fair enough if visiting some old dear in a care home, & I can understand why hospitals might require them, but Joe Public in Asda? Really?

Why not?

If they are that ineffective, why wear one when visiting ‘some old dear’?

Doesn't the fact that hospital acquired infection is so high prove that masks don't work?

Everyone in hospital is masked up.

[danllama]

Colonel Cupcake said:

Alucidnation said:

Biker 1 said:

amgmcqueen said:

If you believe that, you'll believe anything.

Hands up how many here actually wear a bloody mask in order to protect others?
Fair enough if visiting some old dear in a care home, & I can understand why hospitals might require them, but Joe Public in Asda? Really?

Why not?

If they are that ineffective, why wear one when visiting ‘some old dear’?

Doesn't the fact that hospital acquired infection is so high prove that masks don't work?

Everyone in hospital is masked up.

Doesn't the fact that infections kept rising through winter prove lockdowns don't work too? Why are the government persisting with all this bks?

[sl0wlane]

Biker 1 said:

Hands up how many here actually wear a bloody mask in order to protect others?
Fair enough if visiting some old dear in a care home, & I can understand why hospitals might require them, but Joe Public in Asda? Really?

I only wear them where legally required to do so, and often pull the useless crap off my face as I walk out of the shop door - it’s so obviously pointless it makes me quite angry.

I only don the damn thing in the first place because it may make some old dear in the shop feel slightly less scared.

Can’t wait to have a ritual burning.

Personally I think the moment the man on the telly says they are no longer required they will disappear almost over night... many people may currently say “oh yes, I love my mask and I’ll wear it forever” - I call bullst on that.

[pocty]

Sahjahd said:

dmahon said:

Are there any indications whether the 80+ were people who have 0, 1 or 2 vaccine doses?

Most 80+s had their first dose over a month ago, so would expect to be seeing a bigger drop by now.

Could it be that the untested vaccine is killing them?

No just old people dying of old age. Just like they did before corona. Imagine if you could give 80 year old people a vaccine that could make them all live for 16 years more.

Pocty

[anonymous-user]

amgmcqueen said:

soofsayer said:

Biker 1 said:

Does she honestly think this will be possible to implement?? I have a collection of 6 motorcycle snoods. I keep one in the car in case of emergency shopping & another one for the weekly Sainsburys run. Have not actually purchased any type of mask during this & have no intention of spending a single penny on one.
I'm still alive......

Easy to forget mask wearing isn't about protecting you and your own health, it's about protecting everyone else. Same theme with the vaccinations.

If you believe that, you'll believe anything.

I was being sarcastic, although that is the official line.

[Colonel Cupcake]

Biker 1 said:

Hands up how many here actually wear a bloody mask in order to protect others?
Fair enough if visiting some old dear in a care home, & I can understand why hospitals might require them, but Joe Public in Asda? Really?

I don't wear a mask at all. Anywhere. Ever.

[MEC]

Alucidnation said:

Why not?

If they are that ineffective, why wear one when visiting ‘some old dear’?

If they are so effective why didn't cases fall when they were introduced and why have states/countries without mask mandates had essentially the same outcome as those with??

[isaldiri]

pocty said:

No just old people dying of old age. Just like they did before corona. Imagine if you could give 80 year old people a vaccine that could make them all live for 16 years more.

Pocty

Odd how 'old age' suddenly killed far more people in the last 12months than in previous years though isn't it.....?

[Thin White Duke]

Adventure Island UK which I believe is in Southend on Sea has told talkradio that they will not require staff to have the covid vaccine. Your body, your choice is what they have said.

I'm glad that this is happening. Common sense may yet prevail.

[Alucidnation]

Colonel Cupcake said:

Alucidnation said:

Biker 1 said:

amgmcqueen said:

If you believe that, you'll believe anything.

Hands up how many here actually wear a bloody mask in order to protect others?
Fair enough if visiting some old dear in a care home, & I can understand why hospitals might require them, but Joe Public in Asda? Really?

Why not?

If they are that ineffective, why wear one when visiting ‘some old dear’?

Doesn't the fact that hospital acquired infection is so high prove that masks don't work?

Everyone in hospital is masked up.

I agree, however, the one place that you would hope you are safe, is turning out to be one of the worst places.

Does not compute!

[Alucidnation]

garyhun said:

Alucidnation said:

Biker 1 said:

amgmcqueen said:

If you believe that, you'll believe anything.

Hands up how many here actually wear a bloody mask in order to protect others?
Fair enough if visiting some old dear in a care home, & I can understand why hospitals might require them, but Joe Public in Asda? Really?

Why not?

If they are that ineffective, why wear one when visiting ‘some old dear’?

Politeness you muppet!

Most are worn just to get into Tesco, Waitrose etc.

[Alucidnation]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Yes you are probably right, but why?

This has been going on for nearly a year, so some form containment should have been implemented by now, especially at ones with the highest numbers.

[R Mutt]

amgmcqueen said:

soofsayer said:

Biker 1 said:

Does she honestly think this will be possible to implement?? I have a collection of 6 motorcycle snoods. I keep one in the car in case of emergency shopping & another one for the weekly Sainsburys run. Have not actually purchased any type of mask during this & have no intention of spending a single penny on one.
I'm still alive......

Easy to forget mask wearing isn't about protecting you and your own health, it's about protecting everyone else. Same theme with the vaccinations.

If you believe that, you'll believe anything.

More of a psychological benefit than everything else. And I don't mean the constant visual reminder. This logic has been drummed in to us thanks to SPI-B that it's a selfless act, thus achieving the reinforcement of this obligation via the public.

99% of people 'wearing a mask to protect others' are doing no such thing. It's not a fking 1 way valve. Most are simply terrified of the virus.

[R Mutt]

If they have managed to track this Manaus variant to a few hundred people via the test batch numbers where did the patient get the test in the first place?

[Elysium]

Taylor James said:

Elysium said:

Update on excess deaths based on todays ONS report for wk 7 ending 19th Feb 21:

It's beyond my abilities so is there any chance you could post some different excess mortality stats? I'm suspicious that a five year average is being used to support the narrative and I'd really like to know how things look when using other rolling averages - say, 10, 15 or 20 years. Quite understand if you're busy enough already.

I had a go at 20 years, which really pushes up the maximum. The spike in the dotted yellow line is Jan 2000. Which was actually bigger than the peak in March 2020.

It seems to have been due to a flu outbreak. An event so massive I have absolutely no recollection of it. Also very interesting that non-COVID deaths are at a 20 year minimum.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/j...

Edited by Elysium on Tuesday 2nd March 20:02