CV19 - Cure worse than the disease? (Vol 10)
Discussion
JuanCarlosFandango said:
craig1912 said:
EddieSteadyGo said:
fk that. I've got a years worth of living to catch back up on. Risk from covid is small, but the risk of the vaccine is miniscule.
The moment I get the invite, I'm getting the jab. I'm desperate to get back skiing, to travel to somewhere interesting, and start living again.
Agree- 60 just had first jab- I want to start travelling again and start living again. Booked two lots of flightsThe moment I get the invite, I'm getting the jab. I'm desperate to get back skiing, to travel to somewhere interesting, and start living again.
JuanCarlosFandango said:
craig1912 said:
EddieSteadyGo said:
fk that. I've got a years worth of living to catch back up on. Risk from covid is small, but the risk of the vaccine is miniscule.
The moment I get the invite, I'm getting the jab. I'm desperate to get back skiing, to travel to somewhere interesting, and start living again.
Agree- 60 just had first jab- I want to start travelling again and start living again. Booked two lots of flightsThe moment I get the invite, I'm getting the jab. I'm desperate to get back skiing, to travel to somewhere interesting, and start living again.
Cold said:
The UK appears to be coming out of this pandemic yet some are keen to jump on a plane and "escape" - often to countries where they haven't got a hold on the virus. This confuses me.
I get the impression that there is a lot that don't feel safe yet, will be the ones screaming at the younger generation to get vaccinated so they can be 100% covered. Yet the same people will probably quite happily bugger off to Benidorm for a week in July. It will all be about what their priorities are at that given time I imagine.Considering the more vaccinated the more a variant is a threat to the program, you'd think restrictions to travel abroad potentially, would increase?
Edited by Uggers on Saturday 6th March 22:17
monkfish1 said:
Cold said:
The UK appears to be coming out of this pandemic yet some are keen to jump on a plane and "escape" - often to countries where they haven't got a hold on the virus. This confuses me.
Why? Some people are not "scared" of the virus. Or had it. Or vaccinated.But not because I'm scared of contracting it, but because such a place will no doubt have its own ridiculous versions of all the scotch egg rules. Except this time, I wouldn't know what they actually are.
If there's one thing that could spoil a holiday it's receiving a £200 fine for not wearing a mask outside while you're within ten feet of a doorway.*
*other daftness may apply.
isaldiri said:
yep, I can live with that risk about the vaccine.
Wasn't too bothered about getting covid, even less bothered about the vaccine related risk either given the current data. if antibody depdendent enhancement or risk of the vaccine was significant given the numbers of people getting vaccinated there would have been at least some obvious sign of it by now as trials started by mid last year. There might of course be some much longer term risk that might show up at some point but again same as the point about living with covid, I'm not looking to completely minimise risk. As this point imo it's acceptable esp wrt to travel hassle with my parents living overseas. I absolutely don't think it should be mandated but there are enough vested interests to ensure it almost certainly will in some form and the tradeoff is such as I said it's not the hill I think is worth dying on for now.
Nothing inherently risky about the technology behind the mRNA types?Wasn't too bothered about getting covid, even less bothered about the vaccine related risk either given the current data. if antibody depdendent enhancement or risk of the vaccine was significant given the numbers of people getting vaccinated there would have been at least some obvious sign of it by now as trials started by mid last year. There might of course be some much longer term risk that might show up at some point but again same as the point about living with covid, I'm not looking to completely minimise risk. As this point imo it's acceptable esp wrt to travel hassle with my parents living overseas. I absolutely don't think it should be mandated but there are enough vested interests to ensure it almost certainly will in some form and the tradeoff is such as I said it's not the hill I think is worth dying on for now.
Edited by isaldiri on Saturday 6th March 20:44
monkfish1 said:
Cold said:
The UK appears to be coming out of this pandemic yet some are keen to jump on a plane and "escape" - often to countries where they haven't got a hold on the virus. This confuses me.
Why? Some people are not "scared" of the virus. Or had it. Or vaccinated.or the 1 in 100,000 olympic athletes that get covid really bad and become a poster child for it being a killer of everyone.
Uggers said:
Cold said:
The UK appears to be coming out of this pandemic yet some are keen to jump on a plane and "escape" - often to countries where they haven't got a hold on the virus. This confuses me.
I get the impression that there is a lot that don't feel safe yet, will be the ones screaming at the younger generation to get vaccinated so they can be 100% covered. Yet the same people will probably quite happily bugger off to Benidorm for a week in July. It will all be about what their priorities are at that given time I imagine.Considering the more vaccinated the more a variant is a threat to the program, you'd think restrictions to travel abroad potentially, would increase?
Edited by Uggers on Saturday 6th March 22:17
Look at every football teams fans when they win a league or cup they go out a big celebration on the streets. Or the entire summer protesting the catalyst being a criminal no good nick. Even the local Tesco or Asda agnes and ethil meeting up every day because they think they are being smart beating the system by timing their 7 day a week shopping trip the same every day.
monkfish1 said:
Cold said:
The UK appears to be coming out of this pandemic yet some are keen to jump on a plane and "escape" - often to countries where they haven't got a hold on the virus. This confuses me.
Why? Some people are not "scared" of the virus. Or had it. Or vaccinated.I’d have gone away last year but Europe seems to be full of mask wkers
i4got said:
sl0wlane said:
What does everyone make of this, certainly adds weight to the “dry tinder” theory:
https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgove...
Thats a really interesting set of figures. So every year from 1990 to 2010 had a higher death per 100k rate than 2020.https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgove...
Pocty
981C said:
Nothing inherently risky about the technology behind the mRNA types?
Why would it be? MRNA or gm monkey sniffle/human sniffle/moth cell etc, I honestly don't see what the big deal about mRNA is vs any of the other next gen ones.pocty said:
I know I'll ps off isaldiri again, but like I said before old people will learn to die of old age again.
Pocty
You would be right if 2021 death rate stays around 2020 rather than resetting to something much closer 2019. Pocty
EddieSteadyGo said:
Douglas Quaid said:
I’m forgoing foreign holidays this year too. I’ll see what happens once the vaccines have passed the trial periods in 2023 and are no longer experimental then will make a decision.
fk that. I've got a years worth of living to catch back up on. Risk from covid is small, but the risk of the vaccine is miniscule. The moment I get the invite, I'm getting the jab. I'm desperate to get back skiing, to travel to somewhere interesting, and start living again.
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