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purplepenguin said:
Murph7355 said:
purplepenguin said:
Vantagemech.. said:
Does this mean those in favour of a vaccine passport will refrain from using businesses that don't have 100% covid cover? After all if you won't sit next to somebody in a cinema, why would you risk it anywhere else?
And will they demand to know of anyone who is in the cinema who can’t have the vaccine for medical reasons?Perhaps the cinema can give them a little badge and everyone can avoid them and ostracise them and be smug about having had a vaccine.
f
king nonsense, have the vaccine if you want and everyone get on with life.If you want to protect the NHS ( don’t know why as we pay a s
t load of money in to it and a lot is wasted by very poor management) then control the amount/type of food fat people have.That will reduce the strain on the NHS and by extension help everyone else.
purplepenguin said:
andyeds1234 said:
purplepenguin said:
If you want to protect the NHS ( don’t know why as we pay a st load of money in to it and a lot is wasted by very poor management) then control the amount/type of food fat people have.
That will reduce the strain on the NHS and by extension help everyone else.
Promoting a healthy lifestyle, and vaccine uptake can be done simultaneously, believe it or not.t load of money in to it and a lot is wasted by very poor management) then control the amount/type of food fat people have.That will reduce the strain on the NHS and by extension help everyone else.
Will the “punishment” for not having a vaccine equal the “punishment” for not exercising/eating healthily?
d from someone. 2. Where are these punishments that are being handed out?
Murph7355 said:
purplepenguin said:
Murph7355 said:
purplepenguin said:
Vantagemech.. said:
Does this mean those in favour of a vaccine passport will refrain from using businesses that don't have 100% covid cover? After all if you won't sit next to somebody in a cinema, why would you risk it anywhere else?
And will they demand to know of anyone who is in the cinema who can’t have the vaccine for medical reasons?Perhaps the cinema can give them a little badge and everyone can avoid them and ostracise them and be smug about having had a vaccine.
f
king nonsense, have the vaccine if you want and everyone get on with life.If you want to protect the NHS ( don’t know why as we pay a s
t load of money in to it and a lot is wasted by very poor management) then control the amount/type of food fat people have.That will reduce the strain on the NHS and by extension help everyone else.
andyeds1234 said:
purplepenguin said:
andyeds1234 said:
purplepenguin said:
If you want to protect the NHS ( don’t know why as we pay a st load of money in to it and a lot is wasted by very poor management) then control the amount/type of food fat people have.
That will reduce the strain on the NHS and by extension help everyone else.
Promoting a healthy lifestyle, and vaccine uptake can be done simultaneously, believe it or not.t load of money in to it and a lot is wasted by very poor management) then control the amount/type of food fat people have.That will reduce the strain on the NHS and by extension help everyone else.
Will the “punishment” for not having a vaccine equal the “punishment” for not exercising/eating healthily?
d from someone. 2. Where are these punishments that are being handed out?
Biker 1 said:
by the back door
The Chinese government has denied forcing US diplomats stationed in the country to take anal swab tests for Covid 19https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/chin...
Biker 1 said:
otolith said:
Wouldn't it be easier just to get the vaccination and stop obsessing about it?
Wrong answer!Being encouraged in an adult fashion with the decision left to the individual is one thing. Mandating it by the back door is quite another
You just may not be allowed in certain places if not.
Similar to mandated vaccinations to enter certain countries.
I’ve just heard an acquaintance of mine has died of COVID.
He had MS and, although not high risk, he’s been self isolating for several months. He’s single and lived on his own. The only people he saw were his Carer’s who visited 3 times a day. Apparently he possibly caught it from one of them who’d been offered but had refused the vaccine.
If this is true then it does seem that vaccination should be a condition of employment for this area.
Mine is due at 4:30 and i know she’s not been vaccinated. Should I be worried as although Mike was 4 years older than me, he was only 59.
He had MS and, although not high risk, he’s been self isolating for several months. He’s single and lived on his own. The only people he saw were his Carer’s who visited 3 times a day. Apparently he possibly caught it from one of them who’d been offered but had refused the vaccine.
If this is true then it does seem that vaccination should be a condition of employment for this area.
Mine is due at 4:30 and i know she’s not been vaccinated. Should I be worried as although Mike was 4 years older than me, he was only 59.
stuartmmcfc said:
I’ve just heard an acquaintance of mine has died of COVID.
He had MS and, although not high risk, he’s been self isolating for several months. He’s single and lived on his own. The only people he saw were his Carer’s who visited 3 times a day. Apparently he possibly caught it from one of them who’d been offered but had refused the vaccine.
If this is true then it does seem that vaccination should be a condition of employment for this area.
Mine is due at 4:30 and i know she’s not been vaccinated. Should I be worried as although Mike was 4 years older than me, he was only 59.
That's why I'd like to see even young people have the vaccine.He had MS and, although not high risk, he’s been self isolating for several months. He’s single and lived on his own. The only people he saw were his Carer’s who visited 3 times a day. Apparently he possibly caught it from one of them who’d been offered but had refused the vaccine.
If this is true then it does seem that vaccination should be a condition of employment for this area.
Mine is due at 4:30 and i know she’s not been vaccinated. Should I be worried as although Mike was 4 years older than me, he was only 59.
The antivax mob can't see past their own interests.
Zoon said:
Biker 1 said:
otolith said:
Wouldn't it be easier just to get the vaccination and stop obsessing about it?
Wrong answer!Being encouraged in an adult fashion with the decision left to the individual is one thing. Mandating it by the back door is quite another
You just may not be allowed in certain places if not.
Similar to mandated vaccinations to enter certain countries.
It may be correct to say that in a narrow, technical sense, but it is entirely, and deliberately, disingenuous to do so. It is coercion and blackmail, plain and simple.
CrutyRammers said:
Zoon said:
You just may not be allowed in certain places if not.
...or if you forget/lose/have your card stolen. Or your phone runs out of battery or signal. Or if "the system" goes wrong. Or if someone enters your details wrongly...or....stuartmmcfc said:
I’ve just heard an acquaintance of mine has died of COVID.
He had MS and, although not high risk, he’s been self isolating for several months. He’s single and lived on his own. The only people he saw were his Carer’s who visited 3 times a day. Apparently he possibly caught it from one of them who’d been offered but had refused the vaccine.
If this is true then it does seem that vaccination should be a condition of employment for this area.
Mine is due at 4:30 and i know she’s not been vaccinated. Should I be worried as although Mike was 4 years older than me, he was only 59.
This is so sad to hear. Anyone, and I mean absolutely anyone in social or medical care should have vaccination made part of their contract of employment. Refuse? you're sacked. He had MS and, although not high risk, he’s been self isolating for several months. He’s single and lived on his own. The only people he saw were his Carer’s who visited 3 times a day. Apparently he possibly caught it from one of them who’d been offered but had refused the vaccine.
If this is true then it does seem that vaccination should be a condition of employment for this area.
Mine is due at 4:30 and i know she’s not been vaccinated. Should I be worried as although Mike was 4 years older than me, he was only 59.
This tragic story should be made very public.
It's also why I am very pleased that everyone in my workplace was offered it weeks ago, more than I thought refused but that's ok, HR know who they are.
Zoon said:
Nobody is forcing you to have a vaccination.
You just may not be allowed in certain places if not.
Similar to mandated vaccinations to enter certain countries.
There's a large grey thing in the room though.You just may not be allowed in certain places if not.
Similar to mandated vaccinations to enter certain countries.
Uptake has been very low in the bame community. While I understand the thoughts behind wanting to show proof of vaccination, you know exactly where it could lead. Again, whatever dress you put it in, it's still segregation.
stuartmmcfc said:
If this is true then it does seem that vaccination should be a condition of employment for this area.
Mine is due at 4:30 and i know she’s not been vaccinated. Should I be worried as although Mike was 4 years older than me, he was only 59.
I think it is quite reasonable for vaccines to be a condition of employment for carers of people in Covid risk groups. Several care home operators are already saying this. Mine is due at 4:30 and i know she’s not been vaccinated. Should I be worried as although Mike was 4 years older than me, he was only 59.
21TonyK said:
stuartmmcfc said:
I’ve just heard an acquaintance of mine has died of COVID.
He had MS and, although not high risk, he’s been self isolating for several months. He’s single and lived on his own. The only people he saw were his Carer’s who visited 3 times a day. Apparently he possibly caught it from one of them who’d been offered but had refused the vaccine.
If this is true then it does seem that vaccination should be a condition of employment for this area.
Mine is due at 4:30 and i know she’s not been vaccinated. Should I be worried as although Mike was 4 years older than me, he was only 59.
This is so sad to hear. Anyone, and I mean absolutely anyone in social or medical care should have vaccination made part of their contract of employment. Refuse? you're sacked. He had MS and, although not high risk, he’s been self isolating for several months. He’s single and lived on his own. The only people he saw were his Carer’s who visited 3 times a day. Apparently he possibly caught it from one of them who’d been offered but had refused the vaccine.
If this is true then it does seem that vaccination should be a condition of employment for this area.
Mine is due at 4:30 and i know she’s not been vaccinated. Should I be worried as although Mike was 4 years older than me, he was only 59.
This tragic story should be made very public.
It's also why I am very pleased that everyone in my workplace was offered it weeks ago, more than I thought refused but that's ok, HR know who they are.
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