Brexit - was it worth it? (Vol. 2)

[anonymous-user]

Condi said:

And yet we have far fewer migrants - legal or otherwise - than most other comparable EU countries.


Anyway, EE to reintroduce roaming charges across the EU. £2 per day to use your data. "Because we can" (well, not exact words, but that is what it translates as). Another success for the consumer.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-57595913

EE are about to lose a lot of customers.

[anonymous-user]

Countdown said:

In the grand scheme of things you're probably right. But it's yet another cost that businesses didn't have before, and it's just one example of possibly hundreds of minor changes that businesses are going to have to accept post Brexit.

EU roaming charges only ended June 2017. We voted to leave whilst roaming charges were being applied.

[JagLover]

digimeistter said:

I see over 5.6m EU 'Nationals' have applied for permanent residency with applications still coming in.

How many UK Nationals have applied for EU (insert Country of choice) residency?

I believe the "estimate" at the time of referendum was there being around 3 million here. This has become almost double that when it actually became time to apply for permanent residency.

This fits in with supermarket estimates of the UK population long being higher than government estimates as well, and shows that perhaps they had a more accurate estimation technique.......or didn't have an incentive to underestimate the number to avoid unsettling the peasantry.

[JagLover]

digimeistter said:

Yep.

Who knows how many illegals we have as well?

I am sure the government has a reliable estimate

[don'tbesilly]

jsf said:

Condi said:

And yet we have far fewer migrants - legal or otherwise - than most other comparable EU countries.


Anyway, EE to reintroduce roaming charges across the EU. £2 per day to use your data. "Because we can" (well, not exact words, but that is what it translates as). Another success for the consumer.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-57595913

EE are about to lose a lot of customers.

Cracking opportunity for O2, Vodafone, and Three who all say they have no plans to introduce roaming charges (mind you EE said the same quite some time ago).

[JeffreyD]

don'tbesilly said:

Cracking opportunity for O2, Vodafone, and Three who all say they have no plans to introduce roaming charges (mind you EE said the same quite some time ago).

o2 have already announced a charge once you get past a certain amount of data.

I'd have thought now they can charge they will. As that's what they all do, and always have done.

But like you say, it's 2 quid it doesn't really matter.

[B'stard Child]

FiF said:

5 years since the UK's unplanned revolution.

Happy Brexit day to you all

All the doom and gloom on this day 5 years ago was something to behold

Who knew that COVID 19 would come along 3.5 years later and say “you think brexit was gonna be bad for the economy - hold my beer”

[don'tbesilly]

JeffreyD said:

don'tbesilly said:

Cracking opportunity for O2, Vodafone, and Three who all say they have no plans to introduce roaming charges (mind you EE said the same quite some time ago).

o2 have already announced a charge once you get past a certain amount of data.

I'd have thought now they can charge they will. As that's what they all do, and always have done.

But like you say, it's 2 quid it doesn't really matter.

Yet I didn't say that.

[FiF]

jsf said:

Countdown said:

In the grand scheme of things you're probably right. But it's yet another cost that businesses didn't have before, and it's just one example of possibly hundreds of minor changes that businesses are going to have to accept post Brexit.

EU roaming charges only ended June 2017. We voted to leave whilst roaming charges were being applied.

Let's not forget that the question of excessive roaming charges and particularly between European/UK operators was being pushed by others since the 1990s and the EU delayed and delayed and delayed. Considerable lobbying and pressure was brought to bear by operators.

EU try to claim credit for it all, but in reality quite a bit of self aggrandisement in operation. Far as I'm concerned, meh.

At least, finally, one of Nick Clegg's claims have come true. Only one mind.

[anonymous-user]

Six Potter said:

During lockdown last year my mobile network offered me an upgrade to unlimited data for an extra fiver a month, seemed like a bargain so I went for it. I don't usually use much data on 4G but it's handy to not have to worry about hitting the limit for those times when I'm say travelling and streaming video or audio, and not on wifi. Or using the phone as a hotspot for the laptop or tablet...

When i took out my latest contract i had the option of UK only or 51 roam free destinations. I took roaming. I get 100GB of data / month on 4G/5G with unlimited calls and texts for £11/month. It was £8/month for a UK only plan with 100Gb of data.

I was working in France 2 weeks ago and used my phone to act as a hot spot whilst i downloaded some documents to my laptop. I used 3.2GB of data. Cost, £0.

[vonuber]

JeffreyD said:

But like you say, it's 2 quid it doesn't really matter.

At the moment.

[JeffreyD]

don'tbesilly said:

Yet I didn't say that.

Apologies it wasn't you it was someone else earlier.

[crankedup5]

Welshbeef said:

crankedup5 said:

Tuna said:

ElectricSoup said:

I was hoping this thread would provide enlightenment on the subject of what is is that we are paying for with this drip drip drip of tangible costs, can't spot anything yet. .

Electric Soup in "I see no ships" shocker.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-575... - Up to half a billion to be invested in nuclear fusion research
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57312162 - Heinz to invest £140 million in food production plant
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57247758 - Nissan in talks to build battery plant in UK
https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/57580074 - UK Space agency backs launch of satellites to study climate change
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47213842 - List of all the trade deals either rolled over or created since Brexit

I guess the drip drip drip of people trying to get on with their lives is easy to ignore...

Positive news is never available to those that prefer to seek out negative news.
As things are progressing I feel contentment and happiness that we are no longer part of the political drain.

Why do they search out the negative news?

I guess I’m guilty of that on the Summer 2021 Holidays thread where I kept linking latest changes and people oddly didn’t like seeing facts rather rose tinted -

Cant say why it is that the regulars in here constantly post negative brexit news whilst ignoring the good news. Perhaps those concerned could answer?

[JeffreyD]

crankedup5 said:

Cant say why it is that the regulars in here constantly post negative brexit news whilst ignoring the good news. Perhaps those concerned could answer?

I'd have thought all those mentioned in the post above have been discussed, at quite some length.

How many because of Brexit, aside from the rolled over trade deals?
We can't really discuss the Australian deal properly as we don't know what it is yet, do we?

[Earthdweller]

turbobloke said:

crankedup5 said:

Tuna said:

ElectricSoup said:

I was hoping this thread would provide enlightenment on the subject of what is is that we are paying for with this drip drip drip of tangible costs, can't spot anything yet. .

Electric Soup in "I see no ships" shocker.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-575... - Up to half a billion to be invested in nuclear fusion research
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57312162 - Heinz to invest £140 million in food production plant
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57247758 - Nissan in talks to build battery plant in UK
https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/57580074 - UK Space agency backs launch of satellites to study climate change
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47213842 - List of all the trade deals either rolled over or created since Brexit

I guess the drip drip drip of people trying to get on with their lives is easy to ignore...

Positive news is never available to those that prefer to seek out negative news.
As things are progressing I feel contentment and happiness that we are no longer part of the political drain.

Definitely better out than in.

Seemingly Macron and his party just got wasted in the first round of the regional elections this week

In 5 of the 13 regions voting his party didn’t get the required percentage of the vote to proceed to the second round

The winners in all areas were anti EU right wing or hard right parties that are pushing for Frexit

These are often seen as a bell weather for the Presidential elections .. for his party not even to receive 10% of the vote would id imagine be rather concerning for him

France 24 said:

Macron had set his La République en marche (LREM) party two modest goals in regional elections: to gain a foothold in local government and play a “kingmaker” role in the June 27 runoff. By the end of the first round of voting, it was obvious the party had made only minimal progress in its first aim – and flopped entirely in the second.

LREM candidates picked up just 11 percent of the vote in nationwide elections marked by record-low turnout. Crucially, they failed to meet the 10 percent threshold to qualify for the runoff in five of mainland France’s 13 regions – including a key battleground where Macron had put five cabinet ministers on the ballot.

Worst of all for the French president, the elections turned out to be a shot in the arm for the one political force he is truly scared of: the traditional right wing, embodied by Les Républicains. In doing so, they whet the appetites of would-be presidential candidates from the conservative camp, who now surely fancy their chances in next year’s all-important Élysée race.

[Oilchange]

I hope he gets a massive wet fish across the face in the Presidential election. Horrible little flea of a man.

[crankedup5]

JeffreyD said:

crankedup5 said:

Cant say why it is that the regulars in here constantly post negative brexit news whilst ignoring the good news. Perhaps those concerned could answer?

I'd have thought all those mentioned in the post above have been discussed, at quite some length.

How many because of Brexit, aside from the rolled over trade deals?
We can't really discuss the Australian deal properly as we don't know what it is yet, do we?

As long as the Ozzie red wine keeps flowing into the U.K. I’m happy.
I see good news from brexit that is rejected as bad news from referendum losers, for example the improved control of immigration into U.K. At last immigrants wishing to work and live in the U.K. do not have to compete against EU immigrants, they have equal competition.

[Abdul Abulbul Amir]

amusingduck said:

If only someone had warned me that Brexit might cost me £2 per day on holiday, maybe a second layer of politicians with primacy of law would have been preferable

Quite, Emergency Budget, World War 3, Back of the Queue. If only they had mentioned the £2 a day and my view on the incompetent liars in Brussels would have softened.

[Tuna]

JeffreyD said:

crankedup5 said:

Cant say why it is that the regulars in here constantly post negative brexit news whilst ignoring the good news. Perhaps those concerned could answer?

I'd have thought all those mentioned in the post above have been discussed, at quite some length.

Not according to ElectricSoup:

Soupy said:

I was hoping this thread would provide enlightenment on the subject of what is is that we are paying for with this drip drip drip of tangible costs, can't spot anything yet. After all there are so many on here who voted for it and are still in favour, you'd think they'd be rolling in it by now.

Apparently nothing good has happened, ever...

[Jazzy Jag]

That's it!

I'm not going to book my 2 week holiday in the Bahamas this year.

£2 a day for roaming?
They're taking the piss!

If only hotels and restaurants etc had Wifi