Brexit - was it worth it? (Vol. 2)

[powerstroke]

crankedup said:

DeepEnd said:

crankedup said:

Apology not sought or required, but thanks anyway.

You tell yourself that.

crankedup said:

As a perennial optimist I will side with jsf numbers as they suit my bias.

I think they match recently reported BBC numbers, perhaps why no link.

crankedup said:

The most interesting part is that traffic is free flowing, no disruption or hold ups that were much forecast in the run up to January 1st 2021.

No hold ups for the exports - cheese, shellfish etc. that never sets off.

Not quite the doomsday scenario predicted and hailed via a giant megaphone for years on years then

Gone very quiet,,... wonder what them thar remnants are plotting ???

[crankedup]

^^^^
Busy rummaging in Google desperately seeking anything that vaguely resembles evidence as to why they believe that they were correct to vote ‘remain’ 2016.
Deepend used the word ‘victory’ making a point in reply to me yesterday, ‘victory’!!!! very odd choice of word.

[Groat]

Anyone see Paul Costelloe (old designer bloke) on News at 10 last night moaning about the impact of Brexit on the fashion industry?

Didn't seem very happy at all

[crankedup]

Groat said:

Anyone see Paul Costelloe (old designer bloke) on News at 10 last night moaning about the impact of Brexit on the fashion industry?

Didn't seem very happy at all

Missed that, what problem is he facing?

[Mrr T]

Groat said:

Anyone see Paul Costelloe (old designer bloke) on News at 10 last night moaning about the impact of Brexit on the fashion industry?

Didn't seem very happy at all

Architects also seem unhappy.

https://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/news/opinion/b...

Bunch of luvvies, they should be focusing on building a better britian.

[citizensm1th]

powerstroke said:

Gone very quiet,,... wonder what them thar remnants are plotting ???

Today is poke fun at the anti vax brigade, you will have to wait your turn.

[Nickgnome]

Groat said:

Anyone see Paul Costelloe (old designer bloke) on News at 10 last night moaning about the impact of Brexit on the fashion industry?

Didn't seem very happy at all

I remember buying my daughter a pair of shorts designed by him nearly 30 years ago.

I expect over the next few months business will continue lobbying and we will see if our government listens or not.

Business will go for the best return on investment and it can either be within or outwith the UK.

[Nickgnome]

Mrr T said:

Groat said:

Anyone see Paul Costelloe (old designer bloke) on News at 10 last night moaning about the impact of Brexit on the fashion industry?

Didn't seem very happy at all

Architects also seem unhappy.

https://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/news/opinion/b...

Bunch of luvvies, they should be focusing on building a better britian.

Amanda?

[DeepEnd]

Mrr T said:

Architects also seem unhappy.

https://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/news/opinion/b...

Bunch of luvvies, they should be focusing on building a better britian.

Wonder if that would affect a future Norman Foster & co designing the next Millau bridge post brexit.

Always liked the fact one of the worlds most impressive bridges - in France - was UK designed.

Surely big architecture companies are not impacted; is this individuals only?

[citizensm1th]

DeepEnd said:

Mrr T said:

Architects also seem unhappy.

https://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/news/opinion/b...

Bunch of luvvies, they should be focusing on building a better britian.

Wonder if that would affect a future Norman Foster & co designing the next Millau bridge post brexit.

Always liked the fact one of the worlds most impressive bridges - in France - was UK designed.

Surely big architecture companies are not impacted; is this individuals only?

Would thier professional qualifications be recognised now? I believe some are not now we have left

[Groat]

crankedup said:

Groat said:

Anyone see Paul Costelloe (old designer bloke) on News at 10 last night moaning about the impact of Brexit on the fashion industry?

Didn't seem very happy at all

Missed that, what problem is he facing?

'Fraid I don't pay much attention to TV news; the item only caught my attention because of this thread. The bit I recall was him having a bleat about 'double Vat' (?) and excessive paperwork.

Edited by Groat on Wednesday 24th February 12:57

[Nickgnome]

DeepEnd said:

Mrr T said:

Architects also seem unhappy.

https://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/news/opinion/b...

Bunch of luvvies, they should be focusing on building a better britian.

Wonder if that would affect a future Norman Foster & co designing the next Millau bridge post brexit.

Always liked the fact one of the worlds most impressive bridges - in France - was UK designed.

Surely big architecture companies are not impacted; is this individuals only?

We did the Reichstag with him and his team many years ago.

Started to learn German for a while but it didn't last.

[anonymous-user]

Nickgnome said:

We did the Reichstag with him and his team many years ago.

Started to learn German for a while but it didn't last.

Why aye man....how's Barry, Neville, Oz and the lads?

[crankedup]

Groat said:

crankedup said:

Groat said:

Anyone see Paul Costelloe (old designer bloke) on News at 10 last night moaning about the impact of Brexit on the fashion industry?

Didn't seem very happy at all

Missed that, what problem is he facing?

'Fraid I don't pay much attention to TV news; the item only caught my attention because of this thread. The bit I recall was him having a bleat about 'double Vat' (?) and excessive paperwork.

Edited by Groat on Wednesday 24th February 12:57

Oh well I expect we will hear more from them over the next few months.

[crankedup]

Mrr T said:

Groat said:

Anyone see Paul Costelloe (old designer bloke) on News at 10 last night moaning about the impact of Brexit on the fashion industry?

Didn't seem very happy at all

Architects also seem unhappy.

https://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/news/opinion/b...

Bunch of luvvies, they should be focusing on building a better britian.

Plenty of work for good architects to be had around the World, even some work in the U.K.

[gooner1]

citizensm1th said:

DeepEnd said:

Mrr T said:

Architects also seem unhappy.

https://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/news/opinion/b...

Bunch of luvvies, they should be focusing on building a better britian.

Wonder if that would affect a future Norman Foster & co designing the next Millau bridge post brexit.

Always liked the fact one of the worlds most impressive bridges - in France - was UK designed.

Surely big architecture companies are not impacted; is this individuals only?

Would thier professional qualifications be recognised now? I believe some are not now we have left

If not will they need to tear down all architecture built or designed by those unqualified architects? I mean if politics can stop the UK gift of much needed vaccines to one of the EU’s own members what chance does a bunch of Jerry built outhouses stand?
Could those buildings even get insurance now?

Edited by gooner1 on Wednesday 24th February 14:01

[Earthdweller]

Mortarboard said:

Apparently theres a significant uptick in empty trucks in the UK>EU direction. Paperwork probably easier for those.

M.

Isn’t that normal ? How it’s always been and a sign that things are returning to normal trade flows ?

Balance of trade in that the EU sells more stuff to U.K. than it buys ?

Surely those trucks would have come over full and are now returning empty

Surely a good thing ?

[Mortarboard]

Earthdweller said:

Isn’t that normal ? How it’s always been and a sign that things are returning to normal trade flows ?

Balance of trade in that the EU sells more stuff to U.K. than it buys ?

Surely those trucks would have come over full and are now returning empty

Surely a good thing ?

You generally dont want a negative balance of trade. At a very blunt macro level it means money leaving the country (nett)
Odd thing is that sterling is currently rising, due to demand for the currency. If that isnt due to increased sales of services (which currently doesn't seem to be the case), then its asset purchases (real estate and businesses). Again, a nett flow of ownership out of the country.
Please note that that's a very blunt/rough synopsis, on a purely macro scale.

Negative trade balance is generally bad for revenue receipts, meaning less domestic spending. If it continues longer term, effects can quickly snowball.

M.

[anonymous-user]

Mortarboard said:

You generally dont want a negative balance of trade. At a very blunt macro level it means money leaving the country (nett)
Odd thing is that sterling is currently rising, due to demand for the currency. If that isnt due to increased sales of services (which currently doesn't seem to be the case), then its asset purchases (real estate and businesses). Again, a nett flow of ownership out of the country.
Please note that that's a very blunt/rough synopsis, on a purely macro scale.

Negative trade balance is generally bad for revenue receipts, meaning less domestic spending. If it continues longer term, effects can quickly snowball.

M.

UK has had a negative balance of trade with the EU since we joined the block. It was one of the major points made about EEC membership in the 75 referendum campaign by the No camp.

£ strengthening is the result of UK being a better bet for economic growth and a potentially stronger return via bond rates. Its not far off the rate we had pre the Brexit vote against the $.

[stongle]

Mortarboard said:

You generally dont want a negative balance of trade. At a very blunt macro level it means money leaving the country (nett)
Odd thing is that sterling is currently rising, due to demand for the currency. If that isnt due to increased sales of services (which currently doesn't seem to be the case), then its asset purchases (real estate and businesses). Again, a nett flow of ownership out of the country.
Please note that that's a very blunt/rough synopsis, on a purely macro scale.

Negative trade balance is generally bad for revenue receipts, meaning less domestic spending. If it continues longer term, effects can quickly snowball.

M.

No.

Please, all of you stop looking for negatives of Brexit where none (or minimal) exist. The strength of GBP is more likely due to $ weakness. And follow on from JSF.

I know the puffin crew think you can only be pro EU or a raving paid up member of the EDL, but the facts of the matter are more complex. The massive US stimulus measures (and what the market thinks Lagarde will say later this week) weakens the $ (or EUR) so selling pressure is having a bigger benefit than sunlit uplands or whatever crap soundbite DE or whomever comes up with. Yes, some sunny UK vaccine news might help, but I don't think this is the biggest factor.

I know that some think leaving the EU is end of life in general (backed up by utterly flaky and BS economic projections), but GBP moves are more due to global trends. Even more importantly, just like the world is not flat; it doesnt end in Ireland or Russia.

Of course all this HAS been explained before but Bracist, 100bn, boo hooooooo wailing is more important.

Oh, and M; you have ignored tourism in your post.... but let's not trigger the long on data short on analysis crew....