Brexit - was it worth it? (Vol. 2)
Discussion
Earthdweller said:
Sway said:
I'm assuming by "collectively", we're once again talking of EU nations, rather than the EU?
What he meant to say was the EU gives very little ... but Nation states who happen to be part of the EU give quite a lot
As do lots of countries that aren’t in the EU
Can we knock up a quick graph that shows how much the EU aid contributions fell by and point to this as EU failure?
We can be selective with the scale of the graph to our advantage.
It's what remainers would do.
Sway said:
Unknown_User said:
Sway said:
Jazzy Jag said:
Unknown_User said:
EU influence you ask?
Well, shall we start with the fact that EU is collectively the biggest donor for international aid in the world, providing over € 50 billion a year to help overcoming poverty and advance global development.
Judging by the adverts on my TV every day, they aren't doing a very good job. Well, shall we start with the fact that EU is collectively the biggest donor for international aid in the world, providing over € 50 billion a year to help overcoming poverty and advance global development.
I'm assuming by "collectively", we're once again talking of EU nations, rather than the EU?
Germany? Influential.
France, Netherlands and Spain? Definitely, especially considering their ex-empires.
EU itself as an entity? So far, the only example has been given by someone who's only given it to amuse me...
Scotland? Influential.
Wales, NI and England? Definitely, especially considering Englands ex-empires!
The UK itself as an entity? "Stolen credit" wouldn't you agree?
Unknown_User said:
Sway said:
Unknown_User said:
Sway said:
Jazzy Jag said:
Unknown_User said:
EU influence you ask?
Well, shall we start with the fact that EU is collectively the biggest donor for international aid in the world, providing over € 50 billion a year to help overcoming poverty and advance global development.
Judging by the adverts on my TV every day, they aren't doing a very good job. Well, shall we start with the fact that EU is collectively the biggest donor for international aid in the world, providing over € 50 billion a year to help overcoming poverty and advance global development.
I'm assuming by "collectively", we're once again talking of EU nations, rather than the EU?
Germany? Influential.
France, Netherlands and Spain? Definitely, especially considering their ex-empires.
EU itself as an entity? So far, the only example has been given by someone who's only given it to amuse me...
Scotland? Influential.
Wales, NI and England? Definitely, especially considering Englands ex-empires!
The UK itself as an entity? "Stolen credit" wouldn't you agree?
Unknown_User said:
Sway said:
Unknown_User said:
Sway said:
Jazzy Jag said:
Unknown_User said:
EU influence you ask?
Well, shall we start with the fact that EU is collectively the biggest donor for international aid in the world, providing over € 50 billion a year to help overcoming poverty and advance global development.
Judging by the adverts on my TV every day, they aren't doing a very good job. Well, shall we start with the fact that EU is collectively the biggest donor for international aid in the world, providing over € 50 billion a year to help overcoming poverty and advance global development.
I'm assuming by "collectively", we're once again talking of EU nations, rather than the EU?
Germany? Influential.
France, Netherlands and Spain? Definitely, especially considering their ex-empires.
EU itself as an entity? So far, the only example has been given by someone who's only given it to amuse me...
Scotland? Influential.
Wales, NI and England? Definitely, especially considering Englands ex-empires!
The UK itself as an entity? "Stolen credit" wouldn't you agree?
Unknown_User said:
EU influence you ask?
Well, shall we start with the fact that EU is collectively the biggest donor for international aid in the world, providing over € 50 billion a year to help overcoming poverty and advance global development.
I wonder if the EU are going to, collectively, top the medal table again.............Well, shall we start with the fact that EU is collectively the biggest donor for international aid in the world, providing over € 50 billion a year to help overcoming poverty and advance global development.
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Unknown_User said:
EU influence you ask?
Well, shall we start with the fact that EU is collectively the biggest donor for international aid in the world, providing over € 50 billion a year to help overcoming poverty and advance global development.
By that count, the EU is also the largest source of homelessness in the Western world, beating even the US. Well, shall we start with the fact that EU is collectively the biggest donor for international aid in the world, providing over € 50 billion a year to help overcoming poverty and advance global development.
Desperate stuff, Piha.
Crackie said:
Unknown_User said:
EU influence you ask?
Well, shall we start with the fact that EU is collectively the biggest donor for international aid in the world, providing over € 50 billion a year to help overcoming poverty and advance global development.
I wonder if the EU are going to, collectively, top the medal table again.............Well, shall we start with the fact that EU is collectively the biggest donor for international aid in the world, providing over € 50 billion a year to help overcoming poverty and advance global development.
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Unknown_User said:
Oh for f
k sake First line says .....
The EU is collectively the biggest donor for international aid in the world
“Collectively”
Definition.... as a group; as a whole
Earthdweller said:
Unknown_User said:
Oh for fk sake “Collectively”
Definition.... as a group; as a whole
And the original comment...
Sway said:
The EU really isn't globally influential...
Murph7355 said:
Unknown_User said:
Er, nope.
Scotland? Influential.
Wales, NI and England? Definitely, especially considering Englands ex-empires!
The UK itself as an entity? "Stolen credit" wouldn't you agree?
You would be well advised to take a leaf from Mr Thatcher's book, you idiot. Scotland? Influential.
Wales, NI and England? Definitely, especially considering Englands ex-empires!
The UK itself as an entity? "Stolen credit" wouldn't you agree?
Johnson speaking on Article 16 at the G7.
Johnson said:
I think we can sort it out, but it is up to our EU friends and partners to understand that we will do whatever it takes,” he said. “If the protocol continues to be applied in this way, then we will obviously not hesitate to invoke article 16, as I have said before
I particularly like this bit.Johnson said:
I’ve talked to some of our friends here today, who do seem to misunderstand that the UK is a single country, a single territory. I just need to get that into their heads
There wasn't much sign of that when he shafted NI.bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Johnson speaking on Article 16 at the G7.
I really cannot wait for the UK to invoke article 16 on the grounds the EU allowed the UK to sign up to the implementation process which does not now suit the UK.Johnson said:
I think we can sort it out, but it is up to our EU friends and partners to understand that we will do whatever it takes,” he said. “If the protocol continues to be applied in this way, then we will obviously not hesitate to invoke article 16, as I have said before
It reminds me of our great Attorney General appeal to the supreme court against a sentence based on the argument the judge was wrong to apply the governments own sentencing guidelines.
Tuna said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: There wasn't much sign of that when he shafted NI.
I love that you continue to swallow that narrative wholesale. Still, who needs facts when you can Grrrr... Boris?bhstewie said:
hstewie said: How do you tell other nations that they "seem to misunderstand that the UK is a single country, a single territory" and keep a straight face when you've literally chosen to have part of that "single country, a single territory" treated differently, to the point you can't send goods freely within your own country, because it was politically expedient for you?
You don't have to repeat yourself to prove my point... bhstewie said:
hstewie said: There wasn't much sign of that when he shafted NI.
See this is the thinking I have trouble with.It wasn't Boris that shafted NI, it was the EU.
There was nothing else the EU would accept as you well know.
If we hadn't agreed, we'd still be a member of their dysfunctional institution.
digimeistter said:
See this is the thinking I have trouble with.
It wasn't Boris that shafted NI, it was the EU.
There was nothing else the EU would accept as you well know.
If we hadn't agreed, we'd still be a member of their dysfunctional institution.
Exactly.It wasn't Boris that shafted NI, it was the EU.
There was nothing else the EU would accept as you well know.
If we hadn't agreed, we'd still be a member of their dysfunctional institution.
They were the price Johnson was willing to pay to escape that institution.
Substitute NI for Kent or Birmingham and ask yourself if the same deal would have been struck.
It's a little part of the UK that's out of the way enough that not enough people were bothered enough and it was politically expedient to treat them that way to get a deal.
That isn't excusing the EU for the article 16 s
tshow over vaccines or anything else.bhstewie said:
hstewie said:digimeistter said:
See this is the thinking I have trouble with.
It wasn't Boris that shafted NI, it was the EU.
There was nothing else the EU would accept as you well know.
If we hadn't agreed, we'd still be a member of their dysfunctional institution.
Exactly.It wasn't Boris that shafted NI, it was the EU.
There was nothing else the EU would accept as you well know.
If we hadn't agreed, we'd still be a member of their dysfunctional institution.
They were the price Johnson was willing to pay to escape that institution.
Substitute NI for Kent or Birmingham and ask yourself if the same deal would have been struck.
It's a little part of the UK that's out of the way enough that not enough people were bothered enough and it was politically expedient to treat them that way to get a deal.
That isn't excusing the EU for the article 16 s
tshow over vaccines or anything else.I do wish they would all grow up and come to a sensible compromise.
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